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**Arch Phoenix**

Currahee Wrote:

Arch Phoenix Wrote:
If you are a city that has banned guns,BUT guns are allowed anywhere OUTSIDE the city, it is very easy to get them.

You knowm if you are piece of paper in the middle of the ocean,you certainly getting wet.

Do you understand that? I dont think so.
Gun control only works if you are not in the middle of acountry FUll of guns.

And what about Mexico? Logical fail.

If only we could uninvent the gun huh? Since we're dreaming we might as well uninvent the sword as well!

The problem is not with inanimate objects. The problem is with people.

So you admit that the american public isnt capable of responsible gunownership?

The swiss are responsible gun owners, there is hardly any violence.

Meanwhile in the US,half of the population is on mind altering drugs,psychopharmaca or just crazy.

I bet that 50% of the so called responsible gun owners in the US had never had a gun training,and i also bet that 70% of the gun crime is commited by people who bought their guns legally and turned criminal later.

**JF Priest** · **JF Priest** Subscriber User ID: 47416 08-16-2012 07:12 PM **Posts: 24,034**

Psychosocial Wrote:

Currahee Wrote:
Arch Phoenix Wrote:
If you are a city that has banned guns,BUT guns are allowed anywhere OUTSIDE the city, it is very easy to get them.

You knowm if you are piece of paper in the middle of the ocean,you certainly getting wet.

Do you understand that? I dont think so.
Gun control only works if you are not in the middle of acountry FUll of guns.

And what about Mexico? Logical fail.

If only we could uninvent the gun huh? Since we're dreaming we might as well uninvent the sword as well!

The problem is not with inanimate objects. The problem is with people.

That's where Obama and Eric Holder come in with 65,000 automatics, LAW's and RPG's.

Go USA! Give the drug cartels guns so you can implament more gun control in America!

f*ck Obama!

So does this mean that Obama and Holder do not need guns?? chuckle

**Arch Phoenix**

Psychosocial Wrote:

Hummmmmmmmmmm Easy! The gangs now know that the non criminals are no longer armed!

Hunting season is now open!

Thats why 90% of their victims are other armed gang members? Logic fail.

**Psychosocial** · (This post was last modified: 08-16-2012 07:19 PM by Psychosocial.)

Arch Phoenix Wrote:

Psychosocial Wrote:
Hummmmmmmmmmm Easy! The gangs now know that the non criminals are no longer armed!

Hunting season is now open!

Thats why 90% of their victims are other armed gang members? Logic fail.

How long have you lived in America? Just wondering.... You seem to think you know more than I after living in 8 differnt states and visiting 48 of the 50 states over the past 52 years.

Again how long have you lived in America?

But A.F. i do respect your opinion. I don't agree with it but I can respect it.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111420 08-16-2012 07:18 PM

Arch Phoenix Wrote:

If you are a city that has banned guns,BUT guns are allowed anywhere OUTSIDE the city, it is very easy to get them.

You knowm if you are piece of paper in the middle of the ocean,you certainly getting wet.

Do you understand that? I dont think so.
Gun control only works if you are not in the middle of acountry FUll of guns.

AND THEY WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED IF WE DIDNT LIVE IN A NATION FULL OF CRIMINALS.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111420 08-16-2012 07:20 PM

Arch Phoenix Wrote:

Currahee Wrote:
Arch Phoenix Wrote:
If you are a city that has banned guns,BUT guns are allowed anywhere OUTSIDE the city, it is very easy to get them.

You knowm if you are piece of paper in the middle of the ocean,you certainly getting wet.

Do you understand that? I dont think so.
Gun control only works if you are not in the middle of acountry FUll of guns.

And what about Mexico? Logical fail.

If only we could uninvent the gun huh? Since we're dreaming we might as well uninvent the sword as well!

The problem is not with inanimate objects. The problem is with people.

So you admit that the american public isnt capable of responsible gunownership?

The swiss are responsible gun owners, there is hardly any violence.

Meanwhile in the US,half of the population is on mind altering drugs,psychopharmaca or just crazy.

I bet that 50% of the so called responsible gun owners in the US had never had a gun training,and i also bet that 70% of the gun crime is commited by people who bought their guns legally and turned criminal later.

ILL TAKE ALL OF THOSE BETS, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOOSE? INSTEAD OF BETTING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT WHY DONT YOU JUST POST LINKS WITH ACTUAL STATISTICS....LAZY ASS.

**Psychosocial**

Arch Phoenix Wrote:

Psychosocial Wrote:
Hummmmmmmmmmm Easy! The gangs now know that the non criminals are no longer armed!

Hunting season is now open!

Thats why 90% of their victims are other armed gang members? Logic fail.

Links to the stats please or what you say is just B.S. spewed...

**CountFapula**

JF Priest Wrote:

Deadly Distinction: Chicago Has the Highest Murder Rate in the U.S... It's well-known that gun violence is an issue for many inner cities across the U.S. But Chicago, in particular, has the most alarming rates, almost double that of New York City.

Since 2008, 80 percent of the 530 young people under the age of 21 felled by gun violence lived in the city's South, Southwest and West sides, which are heavily populated with African-Americans and Latinos. Ironically, only one-third of the city's population lives in these areas. Englewood, an area in the city's South Side, stood out the most. Their murder rate is five times that of the rest of the city. http://www.bet.com/news/health/2012/02/0...e-u-s.html

cause criminals love easy prey

**Yoyodyne**

Because criminals ignore gun laws just as they do all other laws......

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 113108 08-16-2012 07:25 PM

I'm going to leave this one alone. There is absolutely no way to reason with a human being that thinks they can stop violence via taking guns from law abiding people.

**Arch Phoenix**

Gang homicide victims were significantly younger than nongang homicide victims in all five cities (Table 1). Whereas 27%–42% of the gang homicide victims were aged 15–19 years, only 9%–14% of the nongang homicide victims were in this age group. Approximately 80% of all homicide victims were male in each city; however, Los Angeles, Newark, and Oklahoma City still reported significantly higher proportions of male victims in gang homicide incidents compared with nongang homicide incidents. In Los Angeles and Oakland, a significantly higher proportion of gang victims were Hispanic and, in Oklahoma City, a significantly higher proportion of gang victims were non-Hispanic black compared with nongang victims.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6103a2.htm
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Survey...g-Problems

If you look at the gender and age group, they kill each other most of the time. Of course there are victims, but shoot on sight will always be another gangmember.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 107197 08-16-2012 07:34 PM

Arch Phoenix Wrote:

If you are a city that has banned guns,BUT guns are allowed anywhere OUTSIDE the city, it is very easy to get them.

You knowm if you are piece of paper in the middle of the ocean,you certainly getting wet.

Do you understand that? I dont think so.
Gun control only works if you are not in the middle of acountry FUll of guns.

Gun Control does not...cannot work. If every gun in the world were suddenly removed, people would fight with knives. If every knife were suddenly gone, people would fight with forks.... rocks... sticks..

You cannot beat human nature with control. The way to beat the criminals is to arm the populace. If no one knew who had a gun, they wouldn't dare to commit crimes for fear of getting shot.

By the logic of gun control freaks, we should ban cars because some drink and drive.

Common sense should be a super power... so few people actually have it.

**Dial-up**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Gun Control does not...cannot work. If every gun in the world were suddenly removed, people would fight with knives. If every knife were suddenly gone, people would fight with forks.... rocks... sticks..

You cannot beat human nature with control. The way to beat the criminals is to arm the populace. If no one knew who had a gun, they wouldn't dare to commit crimes for fear of getting shot.

By the logic of gun control freaks, we should ban cars because some drink and drive.

Common sense should be a super power... so few people actually have it.

Well put.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 114718 08-16-2012 11:42 PM

JF Priest Wrote:

steelwidow Wrote:
Because there are huge amounts of gang related issues there. They don't care about the gun laws.

correct.. Criminals don't care about laws..(Gun or otherwise).. Gun laws are only meant to disarm the average person....

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 114718 08-16-2012 11:43 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Common sense IS a super power... so few people actually have it.

FIFY