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How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
J
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12-27-2011 02:13 PM

 



Post: #46
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
Bond, James Bond  Wrote:
Cool car...... if you're a white trash loser with no taste.

I drive a 2011 Mercedes E-Class. Wouldn't be caught dead in an American piece of shit.

You paid more for a euro brand and the TA will smoke yours, ha ha ha. Less money more power, better mileage, too.

Once again, show me a v8 sold for $25k that's not an American??
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AmandaLaBelle
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12-27-2011 02:23 PM

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Post: #47
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
Just a side note:
Can anybody imagine in the U.S. what it costs in gas over here to actually drive all these nice cars?? Or any car, as a matter of fact?
Try living in Europe, with the high cost of food and accommodation and gas and taxes and insurance, and then we can talk again.
My car for everyday use is 12 years old and has 335,000 km on the clock.
And it's a Ford.

Lmao

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12-27-2011 02:32 PM

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Post: #48
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
J  Wrote:
Richard Eldritch  Wrote:
J  Wrote:
American brand GM & Ford autos are superior for the money of any other on the entire planet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN_fJPdFfUc
Lmao Then you got a passport and realised that you're talking bullshit. GM? Jptdknpa

Show me another v-8 selling factory new for $25k

I own a car just like the video. Bought it 2 years used for $20k. It is basically the same config as a Cadillac but $10k less. Sports auto is cheaper than luxury auto. It still drives like a Caddy with the same sound and AC/heat systems.

*No longer sold. Discontinued. But the Ford Mustang can still be had.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDMIkItbeG8

You see the problem with that statement? Any fool can stick a huge lump of iron (and only manage to squeeze 256 BHP out of 3.5 litre V8 Jptdknpa ) if the car is made of shit materials by hapless engineers. Watch those dopey American Hotrod programmes and see how slap dash and clumsy American Car "experts" are. Did you know that most Indie cars are British built because American manufacturers aren't up to the job.

MORON LABIA
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J
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12-27-2011 03:09 PM

 



Post: #49
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
Pontiac Trans Am:
5.7 liter / 350 cu in
325 bhp

TA is no longer sold. But the 2012 Chevy Camaro with a 426 horse 6.2L runs $38k.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2012/chev...fications/
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12-28-2011 03:54 AM

 



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In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big three car companies—BMW, Daimler (Mercedes-Benz), and Volkswagen—are very profitable.

How can that be? The question is explored in a new article from Remapping Debate, a public policy e-journal. Its author, Kevin C. Brown, writes that “the salient difference is that, in Germany, the automakers operate within an environment that precludes a race to the bottom; in the U.S., they operate within an environment that encourages such a race.”

There are “two overlapping sets of institutions” in Germany that guarantee high wages and good working conditions for autoworkers. The first is IG Metall, the country’s equivalent of the United Automobile Workers. Virtually all Germany’s car workers are members, and though they have the right to strike, they “hardly use it, because there is an elaborate system of conflict resolution that regularly is used to come to some sort of compromise that is acceptable to all parties,” according to Horst Mund, an IG Metall executive. The second institution is the German constitution, which allows for “works councils” in every factory, where management and employees work together on matters like shop floor conditions and work life. Mund says this guarantees cooperation, “where you don’t always wear your management pin or your union pin.”.........

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickall...e-as-much/

For-What-It-Is-Worth-
The Mercedes Benz engineering department does NOT have enough
combined intelligence to make a Idiot !

Had to get that off my chest !

Heartflowers
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12-28-2011 04:05 AM

 



Post: #51
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
J  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
When u build a far superior product, sell it for 3 times as much u can pay your guys twice the wage, still turn huge prophets and dider's your uncle

We just bought our first eurocar...f*ck american garbage. No comparison

American brand GM & Ford autos are superior for the money of any other on the entire planet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN_fJPdFfUc

you f*cking retard!

tuned shitbox camaro trash can 6.6 liter at 540hp and about 2 mpg

you do realize german automakers achieve hp figures well into the 700+ hp range with 6 liter displacements AND, not only can they run down the drag strip and stomp the piss outta your bitchin camaro, they can pull 1g in the skidpad(that means turns real good for you idiot americans), will break in a quarter of the distance, sustain 184mph all day in 121 degree heat with the air on full whack without issue and if you're in a collision, you stand such a better chance. hello?????
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12-28-2011 04:07 AM

 



Post: #52
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big three car companies—BMW, Daimler (Mercedes-Benz), and Volkswagen—are very profitable.

How can that be? The question is explored in a new article from Remapping Debate, a public policy e-journal. Its author, Kevin C. Brown, writes that “the salient difference is that, in Germany, the automakers operate within an environment that precludes a race to the bottom; in the U.S., they operate within an environment that encourages such a race.”

There are “two overlapping sets of institutions” in Germany that guarantee high wages and good working conditions for autoworkers. The first is IG Metall, the country’s equivalent of the United Automobile Workers. Virtually all Germany’s car workers are members, and though they have the right to strike, they “hardly use it, because there is an elaborate system of conflict resolution that regularly is used to come to some sort of compromise that is acceptable to all parties,” according to Horst Mund, an IG Metall executive. The second institution is the German constitution, which allows for “works councils” in every factory, where management and employees work together on matters like shop floor conditions and work life. Mund says this guarantees cooperation, “where you don’t always wear your management pin or your union pin.”.........

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickall...e-as-much/

For-What-It-Is-Worth-
The Mercedes Benz engineering department does NOT have enough
combined intelligence to make a Idiot !

Had to get that off my chest !

Heartflowers

umm, cleetus, are you sure you don't mean "to make AN idiot"

just asking is all
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12-28-2011 04:07 AM

 



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RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big three car companies—BMW, Daimler (Mercedes-Benz), and Volkswagen—are very profitable.

How can that be? The question is explored in a new article from Remapping Debate, a public policy e-journal. Its author, Kevin C. Brown, writes that “the salient difference is that, in Germany, the automakers operate within an environment that precludes a race to the bottom; in the U.S., they operate within an environment that encourages such a race.”

There are “two overlapping sets of institutions” in Germany that guarantee high wages and good working conditions for autoworkers. The first is IG Metall, the country’s equivalent of the United Automobile Workers. Virtually all Germany’s car workers are members, and though they have the right to strike, they “hardly use it, because there is an elaborate system of conflict resolution that regularly is used to come to some sort of compromise that is acceptable to all parties,” according to Horst Mund, an IG Metall executive. The second institution is the German constitution, which allows for “works councils” in every factory, where management and employees work together on matters like shop floor conditions and work life. Mund says this guarantees cooperation, “where you don’t always wear your management pin or your union pin.”.........

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickall...e-as-much/

For-What-It-Is-Worth-
The Mercedes Benz engineering department does NOT have enough
combined intelligence to make a Idiot !

Had to get that off my chest !

Heartflowers

umm, cleetus, are you sure you don't mean "to make AN idiot"

just asking is all
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LoP Guest
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12-28-2011 05:06 AM

 



Post: #54
flip RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big three car companies—BMW, Daimler (Mercedes-Benz), and Volkswagen—are very profitable.

How can that be? The question is explored in a new article from Remapping Debate, a public policy e-journal. Its author, Kevin C. Brown, writes that “the salient difference is that, in Germany, the automakers operate within an environment that precludes a race to the bottom; in the U.S., they operate within an environment that encourages such a race.”

There are “two overlapping sets of institutions” in Germany that guarantee high wages and good working conditions for autoworkers. The first is IG Metall, the country’s equivalent of the United Automobile Workers. Virtually all Germany’s car workers are members, and though they have the right to strike, they “hardly use it, because there is an elaborate system of conflict resolution that regularly is used to come to some sort of compromise that is acceptable to all parties,” according to Horst Mund, an IG Metall executive. The second institution is the German constitution, which allows for “works councils” in every factory, where management and employees work together on matters like shop floor conditions and work life. Mund says this guarantees cooperation, “where you don’t always wear your management pin or your union pin.”.........

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickall...e-as-much/

For-What-It-Is-Worth-
The Mercedes Benz engineering department does NOT have enough
combined intelligence to make a Idiot !

Had to get that off my chest !

Heartflowers

umm, cleetus, are you sure you don't mean "to make AN idiot"

just asking is all

Thank you for the correction- double posting IDIOT !

Heartflowers
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12-28-2011 05:16 AM

 



Post: #55
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
For-What-It-Is-Worth-
The Mercedes Benz engineering department does NOT have enough
combined intelligence to make a Idiot !

Had to get that off my chest !

Heartflowers

umm, cleetus, are you sure you don't mean "to make AN idiot"

just asking is all

Thank you for the correction- double posting IDIOT !

Heartflowers

yes well i'm not certain as to why two posts show up reading the same thing but i suppose it can happen. take up your concerns with the administration of the forum if it's that much of an issue. the key here is to exercise some grammar and understand that a backyard built camaro is, and will always be a piece of shit. if we reach and maintain the aforementioned parlance, things here in this thread should go swimmingly. idiot.
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12-28-2011 05:17 AM

 



Post: #56
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
umm, cleetus, are you sure you don't mean "to make AN idiot"

just asking is all

Thank you for the correction- double posting IDIOT !

Heartflowers

yes well i'm not certain as to why two posts show up reading the same thing but i suppose it can happen. take up your concerns with the administration of the forum if it's that much of an issue. the key here is to exercise some grammar and understand that a backyard built camaro is, and will always be a piece of shit. if we reach and maintain the aforementioned parlance, things here in this thread should go swimmingly. idiot.

Huh ?
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12-28-2011 05:30 AM

 



Post: #57
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
Thank you for the correction- double posting IDIOT !

Heartflowers

yes well i'm not certain as to why two posts show up reading the same thing but i suppose it can happen. take up your concerns with the administration of the forum if it's that much of an issue. the key here is to exercise some grammar and understand that a backyard built camaro is, and will always be a piece of shit. if we reach and maintain the aforementioned parlance, things here in this thread should go swimmingly. idiot.

Huh ?

oh sorry....

YE HAWW TOBY KEITH BEANS AND RICE CATFISH BANJO

is that better simple buddy? sometimes i forget, there are no schools south of ohio.
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LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
yes well i'm not certain as to why two posts show up reading the same thing but i suppose it can happen. take up your concerns with the administration of the forum if it's that much of an issue. the key here is to exercise some grammar and understand that a backyard built camaro is, and will always be a piece of shit. if we reach and maintain the aforementioned parlance, things here in this thread should go swimmingly. idiot.

Huh ?

oh sorry....

YE HAWW TOBY KEITH BEANS AND RICE CATFISH BANJO

is that better simple buddy? sometimes i forget, there are no schools south of ohio.

Tissue
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12-28-2011 05:42 AM

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Post: #59
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DooM CooN  Wrote:
And they get to take the whole summer off.S977

yep 6 weeks vacation, no matter who you are.

face it, in NA we are chumps. doomed
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Post: #60
RE: How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the US While Paying Workers Twice as Much
Well first, Germans are an actual People. unlike amerikans.
Second they have a homeland, unlike amerikans who are mongrels that just popped into existence inside a vast economic zone of which they are made indentured servants to feed the Top who control the economic zone.
Third, there is no third. lol Actually there is many, but you get the idea from the first two. lol

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