Post: #136

Bed  Wrote:

Judging got us into this mess.

Animals and plants don't take part of gossip and judgments. Nah, they don't insult nor kill each other for the status of it.

Is that your judgement?

Post: #137

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

Bed  Wrote:

Judging got us into this mess.

Animals and plants don't take part of gossip and judgments. Nah, they don't insult nor kill each other for the status of it.

Is that your judgement?

slow down sister we're all a part of something wonderful.

Post: #138

Bed  Wrote:

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

Bed  Wrote:

Judging got us into this mess.

Animals and plants don't take part of gossip and judgments. Nah, they don't insult nor kill each other for the status of it.

Is that your judgement?

slow down sister we're all a part of something wonderful.

I meant no disrespect, just pointing out the futility of your argument. Until we are given TRUTH, until there are no more lies, until there are no more secrets...we have no choice to use our best judgement...perhaps discernment is a better word?

Post: #139

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

Until we are given TRUTH, until there are no more lies, until there are no more secrets...we have no choice to use our best judgement...perhaps discernment is a better word?

I like dialog. Thanks for your open mindedness.

I was using the word "judgement" primitively, ie the methods for causing conflict was born from people believing they were better than someone else. I don't know if it was from limited resources, but what ever the reason, it's in our DNA. After that was established, competition took place, then hierarchy, then religion, then judgement, then war. I'm just nauseated because I really like nature and the balance it has for us on a spiritual level. And it's so freaking disappointing to see our leaders acting as if they're soulless, when in truth, they play the same judgment game inside themselves which cause the mere conflict they're opposed.

Post: #140

Good post OP. I agree.

Post: #141

i refuse to consume most stuff
i refuse to pay some taxes
i refuse to believe politicians a word
i refuse to trust the MSM
i refuse to look away
i refuse to hate
i refuse to fear

well i'm trying.

Post: #142

DanfromtheHills  Wrote:

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

I Refuse.

I reject that I must accept the world the way it is. I refuse. I shall do my part to fight the dark powers of greed. I shall do my part to tear down the illusion we have lived under for too long. I shall do my part to fight for Truth, Freedom, and Justice. I shall accept no limitations and no limits. I declare my soverienty as a free person of this Earth. I shall always question so-called Authority, for to do otherwise, is to be complicit in their tyranny. I will fight to tear this system down. I will never give up. If this scares you, ask yourself--why?-DH

Refuse with me.

I refuse with all of my being. If it is under my power to change this reality for the better, I will gladly sacrifice myself to do so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QCJ9mflho8

Post: #143

Post: #144

What if you refuse to listen to anyone, even those that tell you for one reason or another that you should refuse, especially if you don't like their corollaries to why you should refuse? What if you choose instead of refuse?

Post: #145

Someone has been reading "Civil Disobedience" by Thoreau??

Allow my take...this is my opinion.

We as Americans are all undergoing the stages of grief regarding the loss of our wealth, our freedom, our government and our nation.

I realized this some time ago as I was progressing through the stages. At first I went through denial that my gov't could possibly have perpetrated 9/11, could possibly be in complete control of the media, could have zero consideration for my well being, and no longer had any accountability to the citizens of the US.

Once I realized that my subconscious had, for quite some time, known the reality of these truths I became very angry....the second stage of grief. I blamed everyone...the baby boomers along with every generation since WWII. I blamed them for not paying attention when times were good and for not noticing the many systemic flaws that had been introduced as the politicians continued to kick the can. I blamed journalists for no longer having any balls. I blamed the majority of Americans who, although they were only one step removed from me, were still in denial. Never throughout this stage did I ever accept any responsibility for the situation that we are confronted with as US citizens.

I then realized that I was as much to blame as those I was blaming. I myself had been blinded by a thriving economy, easy money, and decades of lies. I had believed them as well and was therefore just as guilty as those who I had been blaming and directing my anger towards. Truth be told my earlier anger was only a projection of my anger with myself for not seeing what was happening all along, for being asleep at the wheel, and for being a part of the demise of the America I had known and loved. This led me to a deep depression. I felt I was a failure. I felt that me and my generation were responsible for the death of the American dream and the birth of the American nightmare…..and the birth of my children into this nightmare. Because we were fat and happy we refused to make any waves that may put this happiness at risk. By our apathy and unwillingness to confront these evils and instead deny their very existence, we were trading our present comfort for our own future prosperity and also, even more regrettably, our progeny's ability to achieve these same comforts. Near the end of this depression I realized that the current events were the result of decades of planning and a global war for resources and control, dating back to before my birth, and that every generation of Americans that had embraced this strange form of cognitive dissonance was also to blame.

Finally I was able to accept our current situation. I did not wish to live my life angry or depressed. That is no way to live. Instead I vowed to live for each moment, to embrace my spirituality, to help others, and to find a way of life that keeps me as far away as possible from the things which for so long had kept me in denial, angry, or depressed. I do not feel the need to change things so long as I am still able to live the life that I want to live. I am living life on my terms and until this is impeded upon I intend to continue. This was not an easy transition, I changed almost everything in my life, but it was one that I had to make to ensure my future happiness and a future for my children.

Many of you are still angry and I urge you to let go of the anger. It was said by the Buddha that "Holding onto your' anger is like holding a hot coal in your' hand, you are the only one who will get burned." Do not attempt to fight and do not become depressed. Simply find the (legal) life that you want to live, draw your' line in the sand with regards to how much of it you are willing to sacrifice to our government in the future, and live your' life in happiness. If they ever do cross that line, remain non-violent, and stand firm in your' beliefs. They will want nothing more than for you to do something stupid so that they may discredit you or possibly jail you. The only way for you to battle this form of tyranny is to show other's your' goodness, be proud of it, never compromise it, be logical, and continue living a righteous life on your' terms in happiness. It is still possible to live in the US legally and find happiness. By being angry or depressed I can guarantee your' unhappiness.

My $0.02.

Post: #146

That is along the lines of what I meant by choosing instead of refusing. There is also such a thing as choosing radical acceptance, of whatever it is you are confronted with, so you are then in a position to accept and change first yourself and how you see things, and then look at the rest (although I would not agree that that means imposing one's will on others for the obvious moral reasons). There is a saying in German that translates into English roughly as, "First sweep your own doorstep clear before you tell your neighbors how they should clean their house". Could have come from Gandhi, and I have always been an admirer of most of what he espoused.

Post: #147

Gandhi  Wrote:

Someone has been reading "Civil Disobedience" by Thoreau??

Allow my take...this is my opinion.

We as Americans are all undergoing the stages of grief regarding the loss of our wealth, our freedom, our government and our nation.

I realized this some time ago as I was progressing through the stages. At first I went through denial that my gov't could possibly have perpetrated 9/11, could possibly be in complete control of the media, could have zero consideration for my well being, and no longer had any accountability to the citizens of the US.

Once I realized that my subconscious had, for quite some time, known the reality of these truths I became very angry....the second stage of grief. I blamed everyone...the baby boomers along with every generation since WWII. I blamed them for not paying attention when times were good and for not noticing the many systemic flaws that had been introduced as the politicians continued to kick the can. I blamed journalists for no longer having any balls. I blamed the majority of Americans who, although they were only one step removed from me, were still in denial. Never throughout this stage did I ever accept any responsibility for the situation that we are confronted with as US citizens.

I then realized that I was as much to blame as those I was blaming. I myself had been blinded by a thriving economy, easy money, and decades of lies. I had believed them as well and was therefore just as guilty as those who I had been blaming and directing my anger towards. Truth be told my earlier anger was only a projection of my anger with myself for not seeing what was happening all along, for being asleep at the wheel, and for being a part of the demise of the America I had known and loved. This led me to a deep depression. I felt I was a failure. I felt that me and my generation were responsible for the death of the American dream and the birth of the American nightmare…..and the birth of my children into this nightmare. Because we were fat and happy we refused to make any waves that may put this happiness at risk. By our apathy and unwillingness to confront these evils and instead deny their very existence, we were trading our present comfort for our own future prosperity and also, even more regrettably, our progeny's ability to achieve these same comforts. Near the end of this depression I realized that the current events were the result of decades of planning and a global war for resources and control, dating back to before my birth, and that every generation of Americans that had embraced this strange form of cognitive dissonance was also to blame.

Finally I was able to accept our current situation. I did not wish to live my life angry or depressed. That is no way to live. Instead I vowed to live for each moment, to embrace my spirituality, to help others, and to find a way of life that keeps me as far away as possible from the things which for so long had kept me in denial, angry, or depressed. I do not feel the need to change things so long as I am still able to live the life that I want to live. I am living life on my terms and until this is impeded upon I intend to continue. This was not an easy transition, I changed almost everything in my life, but it was one that I had to make to ensure my future happiness and a future for my children.

Many of you are still angry and I urge you to let go of the anger. It was said by the Buddha that "Holding onto your' anger is like holding a hot coal in your' hand, you are the only one who will get burned." Do not attempt to fight and do not become depressed. Simply find the (legal) life that you want to live, draw your' line in the sand with regards to how much of it you are willing to sacrifice to our government in the future, and live your' life in happiness. If they ever do cross that line, remain non-violent, and stand firm in your' beliefs. They will want nothing more than for you to do something stupid so that they may discredit you or possibly jail you. The only way for you to battle this form of tyranny is to show other's your' goodness, be proud of it, never compromise it, be logical, and continue living a righteous life on your' terms in happiness. It is still possible to live in the US legally and find happiness. By being angry or depressed I can guarantee your' unhappiness.

My $0.02.

Oh I agree, but I'd have made it shorter and funnier?

Post: #148

Richard Eldritch  Wrote:

Gandhi  Wrote:

Someone has been reading "Civil Disobedience" by Thoreau??

Allow my take...this is my opinion.

We as Americans are all undergoing the stages of grief regarding the loss of our wealth, our freedom, our government and our nation.

I realized this some time ago as I was progressing through the stages. At first I went through denial that my gov't could possibly have perpetrated 9/11, could possibly be in complete control of the media, could have zero consideration for my well being, and no longer had any accountability to the citizens of the US.

Once I realized that my subconscious had, for quite some time, known the reality of these truths I became very angry....the second stage of grief. I blamed everyone...the baby boomers along with every generation since WWII. I blamed them for not paying attention when times were good and for not noticing the many systemic flaws that had been introduced as the politicians continued to kick the can. I blamed journalists for no longer having any balls. I blamed the majority of Americans who, although they were only one step removed from me, were still in denial. Never throughout this stage did I ever accept any responsibility for the situation that we are confronted with as US citizens.

I then realized that I was as much to blame as those I was blaming. I myself had been blinded by a thriving economy, easy money, and decades of lies. I had believed them as well and was therefore just as guilty as those who I had been blaming and directing my anger towards. Truth be told my earlier anger was only a projection of my anger with myself for not seeing what was happening all along, for being asleep at the wheel, and for being a part of the demise of the America I had known and loved. This led me to a deep depression. I felt I was a failure. I felt that me and my generation were responsible for the death of the American dream and the birth of the American nightmare…..and the birth of my children into this nightmare. Because we were fat and happy we refused to make any waves that may put this happiness at risk. By our apathy and unwillingness to confront these evils and instead deny their very existence, we were trading our present comfort for our own future prosperity and also, even more regrettably, our progeny's ability to achieve these same comforts. Near the end of this depression I realized that the current events were the result of decades of planning and a global war for resources and control, dating back to before my birth, and that every generation of Americans that had embraced this strange form of cognitive dissonance was also to blame.

Finally I was able to accept our current situation. I did not wish to live my life angry or depressed. That is no way to live. Instead I vowed to live for each moment, to embrace my spirituality, to help others, and to find a way of life that keeps me as far away as possible from the things which for so long had kept me in denial, angry, or depressed. I do not feel the need to change things so long as I am still able to live the life that I want to live. I am living life on my terms and until this is impeded upon I intend to continue. This was not an easy transition, I changed almost everything in my life, but it was one that I had to make to ensure my future happiness and a future for my children.

Many of you are still angry and I urge you to let go of the anger. It was said by the Buddha that "Holding onto your' anger is like holding a hot coal in your' hand, you are the only one who will get burned." Do not attempt to fight and do not become depressed. Simply find the (legal) life that you want to live, draw your' line in the sand with regards to how much of it you are willing to sacrifice to our government in the future, and live your' life in happiness. If they ever do cross that line, remain non-violent, and stand firm in your' beliefs. They will want nothing more than for you to do something stupid so that they may discredit you or possibly jail you. The only way for you to battle this form of tyranny is to show other's your' goodness, be proud of it, never compromise it, be logical, and continue living a righteous life on your' terms in happiness. It is still possible to live in the US legally and find happiness. By being angry or depressed I can guarantee your' unhappiness.

My $0.02.

Oh I agree, but I'd have made it shorter and funnier?

ROFL!! I have been writing in much greater detail about this very topic recently. Sorry for the length. I have been relating it to the mass shootings and the shooters being in the anger phase and killing those whom they perceive to be still in denial. They are playing the blame game... add in some psychotropic drugs and you've got yourself a killer.

Post: #149

Good evening everyone..."I refuse" is of the same stature of "I accuse"...

(Jai accuse)...Emile Zola...Google it, if unfamiliar...

Bonsoir my Lady Babalon...As Mistress of the temple you have no choice but to speak your truth...As mistress of the temple your truth is the voice of the harp of the mouth...The Maat ka ...The neters flow through you That is your station...Your destiny...Even as a Goddess you cannot oppose the currant of the age...

Death, life, and immortality are compliant to Maat "see image MAATKA 2"

I kiss you my Lady Babalon in truth, in justice, and in love...







http://www.greymatrixx.com/MAATKA1.html




http://www.greymatrixx.com/MAATKA2.html



Indy

Post: #150

Ghost of 51:50  Wrote:

You'll never fight and win against New World Order. It's prophecy. And TPTB are trying to goad people into rebelling, so they can crack down.

Just find God. Before it's too late.

Ghost of 51:50 - Good catch in your avatar of the pyramid on the dollar bill. I see "Mason" at the points of the inverted triangle.

In response to your post: this depends on your definition or experience of "God".