A day to YAH is like 1,000 years to us. If this is so then the earth would be nearly 13,000 years old. Adam and Eve were told to replenish the earth and there were already beings here prior to them, hence, Cain being worried about 'all that find him will slay him.'

Recorded history of YHVH's people started with Adam and Eve and I think that was Neesie's point?

Either way, both your points are valid. I am pretty sure that Cain did not inbreed with his sister. YAH DOES NOT CHANGE and incest is an abomination so the incest argument doesn't add up. Yes, Cain was evil and didn't follow God but there is nothing to say that any of his sisters were incestuous.

The book of The Life of Adam and Eve is short and worth a read.

or listen (32 minutes) to it http://www.spazgraphic.com/HalleluYAH_audio_video.html

A day to YAH is like 1,000 years to us. If this is so then the earth would be nearly 13,000 years old. Adam and Eve were told to replenish the earth and there were already beings here prior to them, hence, Cain being worried about 'all that find him will slay him.'

Recorded history of YHVH's people started with Adam and Eve and I think that was Neesie's point?

Either way, both your points are valid. I am pretty sure that Cain did not inbreed with his sister. YAH DOES NOT CHANGE and incest is an abomination so the incest argument doesn't add up. Yes, Cain was evil and didn't follow God but there is nothing to say that any of his sisters were incestuous.

The book of The Life of Adam and Eve is short and worth a read.

or listen (32 minutes) to it http://www.spazgraphic.com/HalleluYAH_audio_video.html

Pat Benatar - Fire And Ice


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsKCU5ll3D0



Janet Phelan on the Water System: We are not Safe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ti8OgWeJzs


#
ezone.com › ForumsCached
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Reporter Janet Phalen stated her blood pressure went from 60/120 to ... T-valve poisoners from thier water systems Water poisoners use T-Valves to add poison, ... food and water as delivery systems of poisoning by arsenic and bio organisms, ...
#
Your Photograph Can Kill You - Janet Phelan
janetphelan.com/index.php?option=com_content...Cached
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Sep 4, 2010 – Through the activation of the t-valve designated at that source it is ... the use of toxins or "delivery systems" (for delivering toxins or poisons).
#
Patriot or Fraud - LNM
http://www.latenightinthemidlands.com/xn...117431?...
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Oct 26, 2011 – 1) Investigative journalist Janet Phelan was a guest on his show and exposed that across the country, the water delivery systems have 2 sets of main lines branching into ... Jones wouldn't address this subject & she was removed from the ... to just leave the older pipelines in place & just close off the valves?
#
janet phelan | The Truther Girls' Blog
thetruthergirls.wordpress.com/tag/janet-phelan/Cached
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Nov 3, 2011 – Regarding Janet Phelan, who exposed a possible system of poison delivery via the US water supplying system ... Through the use of t-valves, the government can regulate, on an individualized, residence by residence basis, ...
#
Water Wars | The Truther Girls' Blog
thetruthergirls.wordpress.com/2010/08/06/water-wars/Cached
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Aug 6, 2010 – Regarding Janet Phelan, who exposed a possible system of poison delivery via the US water supplying system ... Through the use of t-valves, the government can regulate, on an individualized, residence by residence basis, ...
#
NWO Depopulation Phase 2: Sabotaging Your Home Water Supply
educate-yourself.org/cn/waterdeliverysabotage19jun07.shtmlCached​ - Similar
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Jun 19, 2007 – Janet Phalen has been trying to get out this story for over three years. ... valves and extra dilvery piping into residential water supply systems.
#
Janet Phelan Water Wars: Targeted Killing Resistors To The NWO ...
margotbworldnews.com/WordPress/wp-content/.../WaterWars.htmlCached
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Janet Phelan wrote Water As A Weapon. ... They could reach Hispanics under a neighborhood water delivery system but have ten ... The company that makes the remote controlled switches and valves that makes this all possible is US Pipe.




Alizée - La Isla Bonita [HD] [Clean Widescreen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjUVStwNt3k

being newly created they would have had super DNA, there wouldnt have been time for strange mutations.

NEESIE  Wrote:

I am about to make it get weirder, this Iceman was dated to around 5,300 yrs ago,

If the bible is correct about the world only being 6000 yrs old, this would make the iceman almost 700 yrs old if he was born in the garden of eden.

this leads me to think that this Iceman could turn out to be Cain.

Legend has it that cain was killed by his own son with an arrow in a hunting accident.

the iceman was killed by an arrow.

since he was lactose intollerant scientists believed he was into agriculture. Cain was into agriculture.

they have recreated from the body what the iceman would have looked like, I am posting it here

could this man be CAIN???????

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...4E47A6.jpg

The earth is much more than 6,000 years old. It even says at the beginning of the bible that God sent man forth to REPLENISH the earth; meaning the cyclical cataclysm had once again recurred and wiped out most humans.

NEESIE  Wrote:

being newly created they would have had super DNA, there wouldnt have been time for strange mutations.

Newly created? You use the scientific finds of the 5,300 year old "iceman" to further your case yet completely forget that the earliest human remains date back more than 190,000 years.

Here is a report from those ignorant heathens at the British natural history museum.

"oldest modern human fossils known, at about 195,000 years"
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2005/..._3639.html

Some more links to enlighten you.

http://www.livescience.com/158-oldest-hu...lture.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4269299.stm
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050214/f...14-10.html
http://www.nature.com/news/2003/030609/f...609-8.html

LoP Guest  Wrote:

NEESIE  Wrote:

I am about to make it get weirder, this Iceman was dated to around 5,300 yrs ago,

If the bible is correct about the world only being 6000 yrs old, this would make the iceman almost 700 yrs old if he was born in the garden of eden.

this leads me to think that this Iceman could turn out to be Cain.

Legend has it that cain was killed by his own son with an arrow in a hunting accident.

the iceman was killed by an arrow.

since he was lactose intollerant scientists believed he was into agriculture. Cain was into agriculture.

they have recreated from the body what the iceman would have looked like, I am posting it here

could this man be CAIN???????

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...4E47A6.jpg

The earth is much more than 6,000 years old. It even says at the beginning of the bible that God sent man forth to REPLENISH the earth; meaning the cyclical cataclysm had once again recurred and wiped out most humans.

Genesis 9:1
And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
http://bible.cc/genesis/9-1.htm

that would be the Noah flood legend of which there are many stroyw similar with beter detail to them being Sumerian, Egyptian notably these stories are more acurte talk of a middle eastern flood not a global flood, the story that made it in the bible was a bad rewrite , that quote has nothing to do with cain or eve or an adam

if you believe evolution, which i don't.

NEESIE  Wrote:

if you believe evolution, which i don't.

You choose what scientific evidence to believe, and ignore the facts that don't fit in to your views. The logic of this escapes me.

It truly astounds me that this level of ignorance is not only prevalent in today's world but that it's promoted and that clear fact is intentionally overlooked to support the fable story of Adam and Eve.

It is the close-mindedness of this kind of thinking that keeps humanity in the dark ages of being able to move past religious dogmas and come into a place of peaceful existence on this planet.

What will it take for you to wake up OP? Seriously?

LoP Guest  Wrote:

It truly astounds me that this level of ignorance is not only prevalent in today's world but that it's promoted and that clear fact is intentionally overlooked to support the fable story of Adam and Eve.

It is the close-mindedness of this kind of thinking that keeps humanity in the dark ages of being able to move past religious dogmas and come into a place of peaceful existence on this planet.

What will it take for you to wake up OP? Seriously?

you cannot prove that adam and eve did not exist can you?

until you do, don't call people that believe it Ignorant.

I didnt say that all science is wrong.
No, only the bits that don't fit in with your archaic personal belief system.

you must remember that scientists are human and therefore can make mistakes.