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**NEESIE**

SpaceCowboy Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
5 stars OP

I need all the stars i can get. I always get 1 starred when i post because of my beliefs.

**NEESIE**

HardTruth Wrote:

LOL, that's all I can say!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Hey Hardtruth!!!! Lmao

**Full Circle**

NEESIE Wrote:

MAD HATTER Wrote:
theres no Mark of Cain on him? you know, the Harry Potter thing on his brow?

It could be there hidden in the furrows of his wilted mummified skin.

the picture that i saw was the artists conception of what the iceman looked like. would they even know to look for a mark? doubtful.

**NEESIE**

Full Circle Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
Full Circle Wrote:
I recall reading a book about him when it first came out back in the 90's. Very interesting stuff.

But I don't think he was your Cain. Just a man.

maybe so, but it is exciting to realize that it could very well be him.

It's been a long time since I read it, but they speculated that he was traveling between human communities through the mountains. He had quite a bag of supplies for the trip. The injury he sustained slowed him down, and weakened him and the storm stopped him.

I think Iceman had a bronze aged hatchet or axe, and some kind of animal bladder that he used as a cantine.

if he had a bronze axe that could make sense too, cain had sons, he had tubal cain and jubal cain, they were makers of music and metal crafts. according to the bible. His axe could have been a gift from his son.

**NEESIE**

Full Circle Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
MAD HATTER Wrote:
theres no Mark of Cain on him? you know, the Harry Potter thing on his brow?

It could be there hidden in the furrows of his wilted mummified skin.

the picture that i saw was the artists conception of what the iceman looked like. would they even know to look for a mark? doubtful.

looks like a mark on his brow............... chuckle

**HardTruth**

NEESIE Wrote:

Full Circle Wrote:
NEESIE Wrote:
It could be there hidden in the furrows of his wilted mummified skin.

the picture that i saw was the artists conception of what the iceman looked like. would they even know to look for a mark? doubtful.

looks like a mark on his brow...............

Seriously, you've got to be kidding, talk about being desperate!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

**NEESIE**

HardTruth Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
Full Circle Wrote:

looks like a mark on his brow...............

Seriously, you've got to be kidding, talk about being desperate!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

you don't see it?

**HardTruth**

NEESIE Wrote:

HardTruth Wrote:
NEESIE Wrote:
looks like a mark on his brow...............

Seriously, you've got to be kidding, talk about being desperate!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

you don't see it?

LOL, sorry, I do not see a swastika on his forehead, as that would have been YHVH's symbol if the story of Cain and Abel was even true!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

**NEESIE**

HardTruth Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
HardTruth Wrote:

Seriously, you've got to be kidding, talk about being desperate!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

you don't see it?

LOL, sorry, I do not see a swastika on his forehead, as that would have been YHVH's symbol if the story of Cain and Abel was even true!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

well, who knows, back in the day before his skin became discolored a mark on his skin would be highly visible. He appears to be caucasian in the drawing.

chuckle

**NEESIE**

LoP Guest Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
do you understand how dating methods work? do not place all of your faith in them.
But I should have unquestioning total faith in a daft book cobbled together over centuries by various self-interested people with an agenda of creating a control mechanism over their populace. A book that condones incest and murder and is so full of contradictions that it makes modern politicians look honest.

Just out of interest what is your understanding of scientific dating methods? Maybe if they are provably incorrect you should rethink your stance on the "iceman". He may only be 500years old!

PEOPLE who ask about carbon-14 (14C) dating usually want to
know about the radiometric1 dating methods that are claimed to
give millions and billions of years—carbon dating can only give
thousands of years. People wonder how millions of years could be
squeezed into the biblical account of history.

http://creation.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter4.pdf

**HardTruth**

NEESIE Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
NEESIE Wrote:
do you understand how dating methods work? do not place all of your faith in them.
But I should have unquestioning total faith in a daft book cobbled together over centuries by various self-interested people with an agenda of creating a control mechanism over their populace. A book that condones incest and murder and is so full of contradictions that it makes modern politicians look honest.

Just out of interest what is your understanding of scientific dating methods? Maybe if they are provably incorrect you should rethink your stance on the "iceman". He may only be 500years old!

PEOPLE who ask about carbon-14 (14C) dating usually want to
know about the radiometric1 dating methods that are claimed to
give millions and billions of years—carbon dating can only give
thousands of years. People wonder how millions of years could be
squeezed into the biblical account of history.

http://creation.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter4.pdf

What exactly does the "Earth became void" mean to you?

And the earth became formless and void." The Hebrew word translated "was formless" in English versions of the Bible is "tohu-va-bohu" a verb which means, "to lay waste, or totally destroyed". (Genesis 1:2)

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

**IndigoBlue**

LoP Guest Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
if you believe evolution, which i don't.
You choose what scientific evidence to believe, and ignore the facts that don't fit in to your views. The logic of this escapes me.

Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias, myside bias or verification bias) is a tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs.

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

**NEESIE**

IndigoBlue Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
NEESIE Wrote:
if you believe evolution, which i don't.
You choose what scientific evidence to believe, and ignore the facts that don't fit in to your views. The logic of this escapes me.

Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias, myside bias or verification bias) is a tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs.

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

yes, the same way that some scientists will not believe that the earth is not billions of years old, even when the evidence sometimes runs counter to their beliefs and suppositions.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 57549 02-29-2012 10:00 PM

Legend has it that cain was killed by his own son with an arrow in a hunting accident.

His son Dick Cainy

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...4E83BE.jpg

**NEESIE**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Legend has it that cain was killed by his own son with an arrow in a hunting accident.

His son Dick Cainy

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...4E83BE.jpg