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If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
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Skippy Guardian Crazy Coincedences... User ID: 111122 08-17-2012 02:51 AM
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If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
There would be no nuclear plants, no pollution, no money, no chemically treated water, no police, no bureaucratic laws, no prisons, no drugs (aside from the natural ones), no jobs, no taxes, no elderly people scared of death, no gangs, children respected their parents, religion was a respect of nature and balance.....
But we had to make way for "progress", right....
Had to get rid of the "savages".....
Hmmmm.... Camping with people you know and love 24/7.... Everyday waking up to the beauty of nature and sharing new adventures with your brothers and sisters....
I'd trade my laptop, car, job and apartment for it... Would you?
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 37860 08-17-2012 03:11 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
The mexicans would have claimed the land.
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Skippy Guardian Crazy Coincedences... User ID: 111122 08-17-2012 03:13 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
LoP Guest Wrote:The mexicans would have claimed the land.
Sure, there were tribal battles back then... humans are still humans.... but I would love to live that simpler lifestyle.....
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Vlad Registered User User ID: 91454 08-17-2012 03:18 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
Go have wet dreams 
We were there even before the Asians, I´m dna proof of it, and mental mind supported by any Shaman, even Bert agreed on it
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Skippy Guardian Crazy Coincedences... User ID: 111122 08-17-2012 03:19 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
Vlad Wrote:Go have wet dreams 
We were there even before the Asians, I´m dna proof of it, and mental mind supported by any Shaman, even Bert agreed on it 
No one owns the land, but we all become part of it.
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Emma Peel Catsuits are overrated User ID: 91621 08-17-2012 03:26 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
The "savages" also enjoyed killing other tribes so essentially they could have wiped each other out. Gangs are nothing new.
I've been watching old westerns lately and it's interesting how the portrayal of death was just as much part of life and quite matter-of-fact. Steal horses? Get hanged. Ger sick? Probably die. Wasn't a big deal, unlike today where prisons are big business just like big pharma is. So, with infant mortality rates, sickness, accidents and hangings, this kept the population under control.
Wealth is too precious to be entrusted to the rich - Anonymous Kaldean proverb - Andromeda TV series
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 115053 08-17-2012 03:27 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
The Librarian Wrote:There would be no nuclear plants, no pollution, no money, no chemically treated water, no police, no bureaucratic laws, no prisons, no drugs (aside from the natural ones), no jobs, no taxes, no elderly people scared of death, no gangs, children respected their parents, religion was a respect of nature and balance.....
But we had to make way for "progress", right....
Had to get rid of the "savages".....
Hmmmm.... Camping with people you know and love 24/7.... Everyday waking up to the beauty of nature and sharing new adventures with your brothers and sisters....
I'd trade my laptop, car, job and apartment for it... Would you?
Love the post! thumbs up. 5 stars.
Would trade all this tech in for a chance to live the hunter gatherer way.
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Skippy Guardian Crazy Coincedences... User ID: 111122 08-17-2012 03:29 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
Emma Peel Wrote:The "savages" also enjoyed killing other tribes so essentially they could have wiped each other out. Gangs are nothing new.
I've been watching old westerns lately and it's interesting how the portrayal of death was just as much part of life and quite matter-of-fact. Steal horses? Get hanged. Ger sick? Probably die. Wasn't a big deal, unlike today where prisons are big business just like big pharma is. So, with infant mortality rates, sickness, accidents and hangings, this kept the population under control.
Humans do terrible things. Always been true. But I would rather go back to a time of simplicity and honor rather than complacency and fear.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 75161 08-17-2012 03:30 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
Native north americans had it relatively good but just a short distance away in central america they cut down forests to create an empire, had slaves, and made a general mess like the europeans.
The point is if the euros hadn't f*cked it up someone else would have. Nothing good lasts forever.
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Skippy Guardian Crazy Coincedences... User ID: 111122 08-17-2012 03:32 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
LoP Guest Wrote:Native north americans had it relatively good but just a short distance away in central america they cut down forests to create an empire, had slaves, and made a general mess like the europeans.
The point is if the euros hadn't f*cked it up someone else would have. Nothing good lasts forever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJ-ppxCGPk
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czygyny Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos User ID: 115027 08-17-2012 03:32 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
LoP Guest Wrote:The mexicans would have claimed the land.
You do know that Mexicans are a mix of indigenous tribes, and the conquering Spaniards and Portuguese, don't you? The last two are European and without the mix there would be no Mexicans.
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(This post was last modified: 08-17-2012 03:33 AM by czygyny.)
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Vlad Registered User User ID: 91454 08-17-2012 03:33 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
The Librarian Wrote:Vlad Wrote:Go have wet dreams 
We were there even before the Asians, I´m dna proof of it, and mental mind supported by any Shaman, even Bert agreed on it 
No one owns the land, but we all become part of it.
Indian Tribes did fine, but got to naive/divided.
Wish the wonderful culture/races/art/beauty survived better, ever seen Tribal Native US Beauties?
If into development to get to the Stars you will think deeply if it´s worth it
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Skippy Guardian Crazy Coincedences... User ID: 111122 08-17-2012 03:36 AM
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Aunt Flo Banned User ID: 107186 08-17-2012 03:36 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
LoP Guest Wrote:The Librarian Wrote:There would be no nuclear plants, no pollution, no money, no chemically treated water, no police, no bureaucratic laws, no prisons, no drugs (aside from the natural ones), no jobs, no taxes, no elderly people scared of death, no gangs, children respected their parents, religion was a respect of nature and balance.....
But we had to make way for "progress", right....
Had to get rid of the "savages".....
Hmmmm.... Camping with people you know and love 24/7.... Everyday waking up to the beauty of nature and sharing new adventures with your brothers and sisters....
I'd trade my laptop, car, job and apartment for it... Would you?
Love the post! thumbs up. 5 stars.
Would trade all this tech in for a chance to live the hunter gatherer way.
Until some of the hunter/gatherers claim that they don't have to hunt or gather anymore because their art, music, and philosophical ramblings are just as important to the collective.
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Vlad Registered User User ID: 91454 08-17-2012 03:37 AM
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RE: If the Europeans Never Settled in America...
It´s a complex mindgame for sure!
What can we possibly find out into the stars that was destroyed with Core of Native Indian Tribes?
I´m tired, food is ready, I will go sleep before into more complex thinking my mind can handle
Night!, great thread, 1000*s
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