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If you want a garden, you have to work ....
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~ BloodRed NLI ~ lop guest User ID: 18489 05-04-2012 03:59 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
Enaid nli Wrote:~ BloodRed NLI ~ Wrote:Enaid nli Wrote:Once I get the soil ready for the season - I easily take care of the weeds with a stirrup (sp?) hoe.
I also let the ready soil - sit a few weeks. I water it - if needed to encourage weed seeds to sprout. Then I knock em back with my hoe.
~ HI. I'm Enaid's hoe. LOL... sorry, sorry, jk, had to... I spent ALLLLLL day (JUST got in NOW, was out there at 7:30 am, to beat the sun and skeeters)... WEEDING. Soil amending. Turning compost.
~ Tomorrow's the day I plunk in some goodies... hoping the soak-down we'll get tonight will be enough to take out/away SOME of the fresh soil 'heat'.
~ WAS going to make a LONNNNNNNGGG thread today, about my time away, but to be Honest, I can barely type lol... on top of that: have any of y'all ever gotten a 'trowel blister'...?? A frikkin' TROWEL blister?!?!?! LOL... Owwie, owwie. Ow. Ow.
~ =P

Ouch!
Well, let me warn you - getting old sucks.
I couldn't garden for 2 years - because of physical probs/surgeries. etc.
Of course - none of the men in the house kept the gardens up.
So I have 2 years of weed matt to remove. I only garden an hour every day - to prevent my old bones from aching.
Trying to teach my 10 month old pup not to eat the flowers in the back yard. lol So, I got nasty tasting marigolds. - it worked. But he still stomps on them.
~ Wait. What? Sis, but I'm only 18 years old (LOL ohhhhhhh I SO wish!! I can't even type that with a straight face; well, that, and the 'sunburn facelift' lol)... I was oot.n.aboot for about 3 weeks, hence my having to truly wrassle the violets and snakeberries today into submission, to make up for lost time. I got all of the bindweed out yesterday, and, ah, skip it, TOO much to type and I've got Liberace cramp (do you realize, the spell-check didn't red-underline 'Liberace'...? lol)... Ohhhhhhhh KAY, yep, and pry too much sun, I'm goofy as all get-out lol... (thanks for the reminder, though, gotta stick those marigolds in between the tomatoes and basil, etc...).
~ ANYWAY. YES, OP, WEEDING. Important. (Great thread and tips, btw!!). =)
~ AND it's good to see y'all again!! (Because the weeds were previously too tall lol). Pry headed for a bath, some Bach's Rescue Remedy on the few bites I got (why do I STILL smell like citronella??!?!?! lololol), and tuck-in early tonight, hoping to nary awake to the sound of some serious rain-age, only to fade away again into BLISSFUL (non-painful lol) slumber... ;)
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94263 05-04-2012 04:00 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
ever notice how gardening and life are similar?
go to work, get rid of the harmful crap in the environment, and then enjoy the fruits of your labor.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94457 05-04-2012 04:02 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
LoP Guest Wrote:Umm , no you dont. The hardest part of my gardening is picking all the vegetables and thats not hard, its fun.
72 plants - red tomatos - brown tomatos - peppers- pole beans- swisschard - collards - asparagus . No weeding and it only takes me 25 seconds to water all 72 plants right to their root system.
I feel sorry for those who garden the old way.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/grq/2995021268.html
hardwork is over.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 67579 05-04-2012 04:04 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Umm , no you dont. The hardest part of my gardening is picking all the vegetables and thats not hard, its fun.
72 plants - red tomatos - brown tomatos - peppers- pole beans- swisschard - collards - asparagus . No weeding and it only takes me 25 seconds to water all 72 plants right to their root system.
I feel sorry for those who garden the old way.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/grq/2995021268.html
hardwork is over.
You've posted that picture before on gardening threads. Please explain what we're seeing there.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94457 05-04-2012 04:09 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Umm , no you dont. The hardest part of my gardening is picking all the vegetables and thats not hard, its fun.
72 plants - red tomatos - brown tomatos - peppers- pole beans- swisschard - collards - asparagus . No weeding and it only takes me 25 seconds to water all 72 plants right to their root system.
I feel sorry for those who garden the old way.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/grq/2995021268.html
hardwork is over.
You've posted that picture before on gardening threads. Please explain what we're seeing there. 
Its my 4 year project to create a new way to garden with as less work as possible while achieving bountiful harvests in a minimal space.
6 raised beds - 12ft long each - 6 plots in 2 rows for each bed = 12 plots total = 72 plots for plants.
white fiberglass sheeting to prevent any weeds from growing , while allowing water seepage .
gravity feed water system from a 280 gallon water tank on my backyard porch. All water is pumped from my basement sump pump and is pure groundwater { no chlorine, no fluroide, etc} . Pump is solar powered.
Each bed has a 12ft long pvc pipe with 6 holes drilled on each side { 12 holes total} and a plastic tube coming off each hole that goes to the root system of each plant.
Can water 72 plants in about 25 seconds just by turing the valve on the water tank. The water goes right to the root systems ans isnt wasted on the leaves.
Four years of planning, and the rewards are astounding. Basically I have a carefree garden.
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~ BloodRed NLI ~ lop guest User ID: 18489 05-04-2012 04:10 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Umm , no you dont. The hardest part of my gardening is picking all the vegetables and thats not hard, its fun.
72 plants - red tomatos - brown tomatos - peppers- pole beans- swisschard - collards - asparagus . No weeding and it only takes me 25 seconds to water all 72 plants right to their root system.
I feel sorry for those who garden the old way.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/grq/2995021268.html
hardwork is over.
~ OOOOOooooh!! Ooo! Okay. What EXACTLY are we looking at here, with that pic Guest? Is that a water-drip off system INTO under-beds of grass-clippings? Trying to figure it out (eyes are a weeeee bit blurry lol)... So the gutter-run-off goes to the under-beds too? But the tank water is run through the solar panel to the wall-bucket/gutter crop? (Sorry, sorry... like I said; a little spacey... I'm so sunburned my freckles look green... LOL... or, rather, is that COL? Owwie. Ow.).
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~ BR Sleepyhead ~ lop guest User ID: 18489 05-04-2012 04:12 AM
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94457 05-04-2012 04:13 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:http://orlando.craigslist.org/grq/2995021268.html
hardwork is over.
You've posted that picture before on gardening threads. Please explain what we're seeing there. 
Its my 4 year project to create a new way to garden with as less work as possible while achieving bountiful harvests in a minimal space.
6 raised beds - 12ft long each - 6 plots in 2 rows for each bed = 12 plots total = 72 plots for plants.
white fiberglass sheeting to prevent any weeds from growing , while allowing water seepage .
gravity feed water system from a 280 gallon water tank on my backyard porch. All water is pumped from my basement sump pump and is pure groundwater { no chlorine, no fluroide, etc} . Pump is solar powered.
Each bed has a 12ft long pvc pipe with 6 holes drilled on each side { 12 holes total} and a plastic tube coming off each hole that goes to the root system of each plant.
Can water 72 plants in about 25 seconds just by turing the valve on the water tank. The water goes right to the root systems ans isnt wasted on the leaves.
Four years of planning, and the rewards are astounding. Basically I have a carefree garden.
This garden has proved to be worry free, minimal physcial labor needed now that its been perfected, and conserves water because the water isnt wasted on the leaves or other areas on the garden where there arent any vegetable plants.
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Malu Registered User User ID: 44863 05-04-2012 04:19 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
LoP Guest Wrote:Malu Wrote:Enaid nli Wrote:Once I get the soil ready for the season - I easily take care of the weeds with a stirrup (sp?) hoe.
I also let the ready soil - sit a few weeks. I water it - if needed to encourage weed seeds to sprout. Then I knock em back with my hoe.
nuthin like knocking around a hoe
those do work pretty slick, i've had every type a hoe you could imagine

The famous MALU! Ever get that fifty?
a poor mans 50
300 win mag, pretty damn sweet though
helps me get "volunteers" to weed my garden
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SunRa Red Magnetic Earth User ID: 94313 05-04-2012 04:20 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
Grendelmort Wrote:Guys, WEED YOUR GARDEN ! I have had neighbors stop and say "gee, your garden looks so good but I can't get anything to grow - can you come look at it?"
Almost every time the supposed garden was over run with weeds and when I pointed this out I got almost the same response "you mean I have to pull all of those weeds ?"
keep in mind, the farmers opponent are :
1. Weather
2. Weeds
3. Insects
The weather you can't do a whole lot about, the weeds, well if you keep your garden weeded, you will eliminate about 90% of your insect problem.
Here is a tip: Put several of those solar powered garden lights in your garden. They will attract bugs at night, which in turn attracts good predators like spiders, lizards, preying mantis ect .... that will hang out in the garden for a good meal.
i've noticed that certain weeds are good to keep and manage in order to stave off the grass from growing... i like dandelions cause i harvest them anyway... clovers is beneficial and something about them keeps the grass back... creeping charlies are great, just remember to hack em back every so often and pull them up when the flowers start before they go to seed.... spreading cilantro, dill and parsley seeds all over hell and creation helps too, and they start early to keep the grass at bay and i have fresh herbs before others have even planted
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Grendelmort Registered User User ID: 86576 05-04-2012 04:27 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
SunRa Wrote:Grendelmort Wrote:Guys, WEED YOUR GARDEN ! I have had neighbors stop and say "gee, your garden looks so good but I can't get anything to grow - can you come look at it?"
Almost every time the supposed garden was over run with weeds and when I pointed this out I got almost the same response "you mean I have to pull all of those weeds ?"
keep in mind, the farmers opponent are :
1. Weather
2. Weeds
3. Insects
The weather you can't do a whole lot about, the weeds, well if you keep your garden weeded, you will eliminate about 90% of your insect problem.
Here is a tip: Put several of those solar powered garden lights in your garden. They will attract bugs at night, which in turn attracts good predators like spiders, lizards, preying mantis ect .... that will hang out in the garden for a good meal.
i've noticed that certain weeds are good to keep and manage in order to stave off the grass from growing... i like dandelions cause i harvest them anyway... clovers is beneficial and something about them keeps the grass back... creeping charlies are great, just remember to hack em back every so often and pull them up when the flowers start before they go to seed.... spreading cilantro, dill and parsley seeds all over hell and creation helps too, and they start early to keep the grass at bay and i have fresh herbs before others have even planted

Dandelions are a dime a dozen in my yard - but yet "city folk" will pay 3 bucks each at a big box store for them. Come weed my yard, you can have all you can carry off for free !
Under the heat of an alien sun .....
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 80423 05-04-2012 08:05 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 79813 05-04-2012 08:37 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
Paying attention to weeds in your yard/garden can tell you a lot about your soil.
If you notice a particular portion of your yard/garden where a certain "weed" thrives it can tell you a few things. It can give you a very close approximation of the ph of your soil in that area. Study the weed out and its soil preferences, then plant a "crop" in that area that likes a very similar soil composition.
You can learn alot from a weed. Here is a bit of a primer I just ran across typing out this post.
http://homestead.org/DianaBarker/Looktot...cators.htm
Homework question. What is one common herb that does really well in poor depleted soil?
When it comes to the plant kingdom it's the strangest thing. They don't have feet and the don't walk, but everything seems to end up right where they really prefer to be.
Why are cattails at the waters edge? Why does the black ash live in the swamp? How does that fern always find that cool moist shady spot? Why is that patch of dandelions growing real thick in that certain spot of your yard?
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SunRa Red Magnetic Earth User ID: 94313 05-04-2012 08:50 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
LoP Guest Wrote:Paying attention to weeds in your yard/garden can tell you a lot about your soil.
If you notice a particular portion of your yard/garden where a certain "weed" thrives it can tell you a few things. It can give you a very close approximation of the ph of your soil in that area. Study the weed out and its soil preferences, then plant a "crop" in that area that likes a very similar soil composition.
You can learn alot from a weed. Here is a bit of a primer I just ran across typing out this post.
http://homestead.org/DianaBarker/Looktot...cators.htm
Homework question. What is one common herb that does really well in poor depleted soil?
When it comes to the plant kingdom it's the strangest thing. They don't have feet and the don't walk, but everything seems to end up right where they really prefer to be.
Why are cattails at the waters edge? Why does the black ash live in the swamp? How does that fern always find that cool moist shady spot? Why is that patch of dandelions growing real thick in that certain spot of your yard?
nods knowingly
there's more to gardening than being weed-free
and just cause you grew a tomato doesn't mean that the tomato has the levels of nutrition required for optimal health
much much more to gardening
;)
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94263 05-04-2012 09:18 AM
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RE: If you want a garden, you have to work ....
garlic repels pests...
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