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In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-30-2012 07:23 PM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
Mercantilism, dirigisme, protectionism.
If you look at the global economy and take a look at growth, China is in the lead and in some cases is leaving the world in the dust. Is China to blame for the recession in the United States and has the US declared economic warfare? Maybe it is time for America to take a page out of China's playbook for economic success. Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar and Investigative journalist Webster Tarpley join RT's Kristine Frazao to discuss the world's economy and Chinas place in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRmOY4ZeZ4
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
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Ragnar Ragnarsson Registered User User ID: 55564 04-30-2012 07:52 PM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
Luvapottamus Wrote:Mercantilism, dirigisme, protectionism.
If you look at the global economy and take a look at growth, China is in the lead and in some cases is leaving the world in the dust. Is China to blame for the recession in the United States and has the US declared economic warfare? Maybe it is time for America to take a page out of China's playbook for economic success. Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar and Investigative journalist Webster Tarpley join RT's Kristine Frazao to discuss the world's economy and Chinas place in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRmOY4ZeZ4
I totally agree with Tarpley there.
I have always said, I don't understand why we did away with tariffs and protectionism. People seem to forget we became a super power under protectionism and tariffs, and the same could be said for the UK. Now China is doing the same thing to also become a superpower.
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Pope Barbie Imaculata Praise "Bob" User ID: 82216 04-30-2012 08:08 PM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
Cascinova Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:Mercantilism, dirigisme, protectionism.
If you look at the global economy and take a look at growth, China is in the lead and in some cases is leaving the world in the dust. Is China to blame for the recession in the United States and has the US declared economic warfare? Maybe it is time for America to take a page out of China's playbook for economic success. Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar and Investigative journalist Webster Tarpley join RT's Kristine Frazao to discuss the world's economy and Chinas place in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRmOY4ZeZ4
I totally agree with Tarpley there.
I have always said, I don't understand why we did away with tariffs and protectionism. People seem to forget we became a super power under protectionism and tariffs, and the same could be said for the UK. Now China is doing the same thing to also become a superpower.
The why is because mega corporations make way more money in a Global economy. It is no longer profitable to have a well off middle class in America. We are obsolete.
It can be fixed but the brain washed sheeple will scream communism the moment you go after these corporations.
Grand High Pope of the Discordian Church of the blessed Dobbs head.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 45832 04-30-2012 08:36 PM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
Making HEMP a legal textile to harvest in this country is the start, in order to create a domestic and renewable resource for fuels, plastics, clothing, etc.. Next we need to free labor from the unions that drive up the costs of American labor by all the excess fees that go to pay the union boss and other bureaucratic BS. Find another way to pay for shit other than the Payroll tax, like usage taxes that are case specific, and while we are at it, get rid of the federal income tax by ending these wars and occupations that it goes to fund. Inflating the costs of local labor with these taxes is incredibly stupid when we have other countries that work for slave wages. It kills labor in this country, and they still don't have the revenues they would have if people were actually able to find work and get off the entitlement system.
So you have the incentive to create more numerous industry with hemp which directly translates to blue collar which is what we need for middle class, people are keeping more earnings as spending it resulting in more local commerce, the net tax revenues are actually higher because more people are employed as well as total spending lowered because less people are on programs due to self-sufficiency. Problem f***ing solved, but the sad part is our leadership knows exactly what they are doing and they want to CREATE dependency through all of these changes over the last 60 years that intended to take us exactly where we are today. It is vile.
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Ragnar Ragnarsson Registered User User ID: 55564 04-30-2012 08:43 PM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
barbsat Wrote:Cascinova Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:Mercantilism, dirigisme, protectionism.
If you look at the global economy and take a look at growth, China is in the lead and in some cases is leaving the world in the dust. Is China to blame for the recession in the United States and has the US declared economic warfare? Maybe it is time for America to take a page out of China's playbook for economic success. Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar and Investigative journalist Webster Tarpley join RT's Kristine Frazao to discuss the world's economy and Chinas place in it.
I totally agree with Tarpley there.
I have always said, I don't understand why we did away with tariffs and protectionism. People seem to forget we became a super power under protectionism and tariffs, and the same could be said for the UK. Now China is doing the same thing to also become a superpower.
The why is because mega corporations make way more money in a Global economy. It is no longer profitable to have a well off middle class in America. We are obsolete.
It can be fixed but the brain washed sheeple will scream communism the moment you go after these corporations.
You're right. I can see it already, brainwashed republicans who think free trade is the answer to our economy yet after all the free trade agreements we've mad, our economy continues to collapse.
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Joe Neubarth Registered User User ID: 58828 05-01-2012 05:39 AM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
Cascinova Wrote:barbsat Wrote:Cascinova Wrote:I totally agree with Tarpley there.
I have always said, I don't understand why we did away with tariffs and protectionism. People seem to forget we became a super power under protectionism and tariffs, and the same could be said for the UK. Now China is doing the same thing to also become a superpower.
The why is because mega corporations make way more money in a Global economy. It is no longer profitable to have a well off middle class in America. We are obsolete.
It can be fixed but the brain washed sheeple will scream communism the moment you go after these corporations.
You're right. I can see it already, brainwashed republicans who think free trade is the answer to our economy yet after all the free trade agreements we've mad, our economy continues to collapse.
The Free Trade agreements were designed to help International Companies, many of whom are located in Asia to grow. TheRepubliscams who supported the Free Trade agreements were all poised to benefit with the growth of the International companies. Companies like Ford that wanted to expand in Mexico were so eager to see Nafta approved that they bought off Clinton. Money controls everything in Washington. The people who throw that money at our congressmen and presidents should all be rounded up and shot. When the revolution comes, I will volunteer to be in the firing squad. Just give me extra ammunition because I am not a marksman.
Republiscams = Republic Scammers = Those who scam the government = Traitors
They are Fat Cat Industrialists, Bankers and Politicians who have taken over our country for the practice of their religion which is the worship of money and the massive accumulation of same by any means possible - Scam, Murder, Fraud, Bribery.
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 05-01-2012 05:52 AM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
Joe Neubarth Wrote:Cascinova Wrote:barbsat Wrote:The why is because mega corporations make way more money in a Global economy. It is no longer profitable to have a well off middle class in America. We are obsolete.
It can be fixed but the brain washed sheeple will scream communism the moment you go after these corporations.
You're right. I can see it already, brainwashed republicans who think free trade is the answer to our economy yet after all the free trade agreements we've mad, our economy continues to collapse.
The Free Trade agreements were designed to help International Companies, many of whom are located in Asia to grow. TheRepubliscams who supported the Free Trade agreements were all poised to benefit with the growth of the International companies. Companies like Ford that wanted to expand in Mexico were so eager to see Nafta approved that they bought off Clinton. Money controls everything in Washington. The people who throw that money at our congressmen and presidents should all be rounded up and shot. When the revolution comes, I will volunteer to be in the firing squad. Just give me extra ammunition because I am not a marksman.
Demopubliscams.
Uploaded by naftafailure on Feb 23, 2008
See the link to the chart for the results of trade with Mexico. The year NAFTA was ratified, America had a $1 billion trade surplus with Mexico. By 1995, America had a $16 billion trade deficit with Mexico. Today, America's trade deficit with Mexico is $74 billion. The facts in the chart make President Clinton, Vice President Gore and all the newspaper editors who wrote editorials supporting NAFTA look like complete idiots or worse. Ross Perot was absolutely right even though he was not effective in the debate. Again, no matter what your views are on NAFTA, the chart (link below) speaks for itself.
Also, this video is significant because it documents how NAFTA was sold to America by its elected leaders. In hindsight, some of the most ridiculous statements I heard from the debate was from Vice President Al Gore:
1) "They [GM] have started to move jobs back from Mexico to the United States."
2) "If he [Ross Perot] is right, then you give six months notice and you're out of it [NAFTA]."
Lessons learned: Any time your government tries to sell you on a free trade deal with another country that has disparate living and environmental standards, don't believe it. President Bill Clinton also made similar claims about free trade with Communist China when he signed a free trade agreement with that country in 1999. Today, the US has lost countless jobs to Communist China and suffers a staggering and unsustainable $250 billion annual trade deficit with that country.
That was posted in 2008 regarding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhwhMXOxHTg
It's bipartisan treason.
And there has been a whole lot of revisionist history regarding FDR, but his policies WORKED, and it wasn't socialism.
He put people back to work building things the private sector could USE, on a scale that the private sector could reabsorb that workforce later.
That's exactly what we need to do now, starting with Pecora Hearings and a moratorium on foreclosures.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 05-01-2012 05:55 AM
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Betty F. Crocker Life ain't nothin but dishes and laundry User ID: 67579 05-01-2012 06:10 AM
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RE: In 1962, 28 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Now, what?
Charlie the Tuna Wrote:Most old time farmers could work and afford to have a wife and raise a big family.
Most 20th century manufacturing job guys could work and afford to have a wife and 2 to 4 kids.
A modern worker can afford to have a cat or at least a couple gold fish.
As long as the cat does not incur vet bills....
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