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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 89664 04-11-2012 06:43 AM

At the time of Jesus the common languages were Hebrew & Greek. The plaque placed on the cross was on Hebrew Greek and Latin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G14l6QTyMOg

The Arabs claim Abraham went to Mecca and other nonsense. Islam did not even exist before 610 AD. Jesus is God. The Bible does not support Muslim claims.

This ecumenism is to get us to accept the Muslim into the west. Their violent fascist religion has no place in the west. There are Youtubes of Muslims routinely beating women.

**FreedomStands** · (This post was last modified: 04-11-2012 07:04 AM by FreedomStands.)

Actually most scholars agree ARAMAIC was the language spoken by the one likely called EESHO.

"Eesho M'sheekha" meaning "Jesus the Messiah"

http://www.v-a.com/bible/aramaic-jesus.html

Though the modern dialects of Aramaic aren't exactly the same, the name was probably pronounced something like Ees hoh or Ees hah in the region he existed because they don't put the same sh stress.

Most scholars believe he spoke Aramaic, not Greek, and Hebrew was not spoken over Aramaic.

**Axx** lop guest User ID: 89664 04-11-2012 07:21 AM

>Actually most scholars agree ARAMAIC was the language spoken

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These are Catholics. They also claim the Latin is better because it is older. That's not how text criticism works. They only want to discredit the translation to improve their own authority. You can see the same at places like Wikipedia. It is error they will not correct.

The Bible is the final word since it was produced at the time and internal evidence show the language was Hebrew & Greek, as the video shows. There are passages in Matthew and Revelation that make this obvious.

Some scholars are paid liars and can bite the dust.

**Michael Alan Keith**

FreedomStands Wrote:

Buster Wrote:
Free Range Humans Wrote:
Aramaic was probably the language of Midian and even if it wasn't it was a Linngua Franca for the whole region so they could interact an trade with each other..

As Akkadian died out Aramaic replaced it. The two are very different.
I think it is a bit harsh to say that Akkadian and Aramaic are very different.

The difference is not like the difference between Indo-European languages and Semitic languages which belong to entirely different families and have mostly if not entirely unrelated roots and words and systems.

The Akkadian and Aramaic and Arabic and Amharic and Hebrew are very related and similar, having many of the same roots even, and working on the same system.

All of the languages in the region share phonetic components and entire words. Similar sounds, when you translate the written words into spoken words. Much like the European languages.

Akkadian
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Aramaic

Akkadian Cuneiform descends from Sumerian Cuneiform. Aramaic Script descends from the Phoenician/Canaanite Script. Lets say they are more than moderately different.

**Free Range Humans**

**Michael Alan Keith**

Free Range Humans Wrote:

Which came first?

The Hebrew Alphabet or the Canaanite Alphabet?

**Free Range Humans**

Buster Wrote:

Free Range Humans Wrote:

Which came first?

The Hebrew Alphabet or the Canaanite Alphabet?

Paleo-Hebrew(very similar to Phoenician)

**Lone** lop guest User ID: 79643 04-11-2012 08:38 AM

its a moongod religion allright,
based on the egyptian Min

but more important, it is 1 side of dualism,
the other side being catholicism
..read Daniel, the 'ram with 2 horns ' ( dualism )

this dualism is the same as the masonic doubleheaded eagle
the e-orthodox double headed eagle
why?
- so that a 3RD party can RULE both sides.
Play them out against eachother.

And lop knows very well 'who ' that 3d party is right

also
'al-la-hu' is mantra/india/tibetan based
( mohameds family was originally indian)
and

the mantra here is 'la' - 'matter '
and 'hu' - 'authoritative command'

( as in the famous tibet mantra 'padre HUm '

its an incantation, that ' al-la-hu',
a Spell to recite,

and translated it is:
" the soul who speaks this mantra, is by authorative command locked down to earth "( matter)

...this is why islam is deist, non-personal,
and empowering own Self

.. recitment - without the need to understand - plays a large part inthe islam books

bless

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 65061 04-11-2012 10:03 AM

I really wouldn't worry about all that...you're just going to cloud your head full of nonsense.

Lets make it really simple.

Religion all comes from one creator, who has NOTHING to do with God. Which is the reason why those who practice religion can support murder, war, division, hate, injustices, starvation, capital punishment, and inter-religious wars without a blink of an eye.

Satan=God of Abraham (Yahweh, Allah) Christianity and Islam are derivatives of the same source. They are both Abrahamic faiths. One of them practices the ritual of cannibalism and blood consumption (communion)/Christianity and condones killing. And the other simply condones killing...Islam.

They both preach of Love and tolerance and usually bring about the opposite results because of tampering and poor translation of texts.

God of Abraham=Jealous and Angry God. However, Jealousy is listed as one of the 7 deadly sins.

Allah and Yahweh are one in the same.

**Richard Eldritch**

Yes That is why the Muslins study the Kebaballah

**FreedomStands**

Axx Wrote:

>Actually most scholars agree ARAMAIC was the language spoken

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These are Catholics. They also claim the Latin is better because it is older. That's not how text criticism works. They only want to discredit the translation to improve their own authority. You can see the same at places like Wikipedia. It is error they will not correct.

The Bible is the final word since it was produced at the time and internal evidence show the language was Hebrew & Greek, as the video shows. There are passages in Matthew and Revelation that make this obvious.

Some scholars are paid liars and can bite the dust.

I don't know if all those linguists are Catholics, I mean it is a pretty well established and well known thing that Aramaic was spoken in the region he was supposed to have lived in as the primary language and stuff. The oldest New Testament stuff is written in Greek though.

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

I really wouldn't worry about all that...you're just going to cloud your head full of nonsense.

Lets make it really simple.

Religion all comes from one creator, who has NOTHING to do with God. Which is the reason why those who practice religion can support murder, war, division, hate, injustices, starvation, capital punishment, and inter-religious wars without a blink of an eye.

Satan=God of Abraham (Yahweh, Allah) Christianity and Islam are derivatives of the same source. They are both Abrahamic faiths. One of them practices the ritual of cannibalism and blood consumption (communion)/Christianity and condones killing. And the other simply condones killing...Islam.

They both preach of Love and tolerance and usually bring about the opposite results because of tampering and poor translation of texts.

God of Abraham=Jealous and Angry God. However, Jealousy is listed as one of the 7 deadly sins.

Allah and Yahweh are one in the same.

The Jealous God thing is from the Bible, it doesn't appear as an attribute mentioned in the Qur'an, see my GIANT post earlier!

**FreedomStands**

Buster Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
Buster Wrote:
As Akkadian died out Aramaic replaced it. The two are very different.
I think it is a bit harsh to say that Akkadian and Aramaic are very different.

The difference is not like the difference between Indo-European languages and Semitic languages which belong to entirely different families and have mostly if not entirely unrelated roots and words and systems.

The Akkadian and Aramaic and Arabic and Amharic and Hebrew are very related and similar, having many of the same roots even, and working on the same system.

All of the languages in the region share phonetic components and entire words. Similar sounds, when you translate the written words into spoken words. Much like the European languages.

Akkadian

Aramaic

Akkadian Cuneiform descends from Sumerian Cuneiform. Aramaic Script descends from the Phoenician/Canaanite Script. Lets say they are more than moderately different.

Yeah, the scripts are different, but the words and roots are very similar throughout the languages besides the Akkadian having picked up lonewords from non Semitic languages, as I described in an earlier post I think.

**FreedomStands**

It isn't just similar sounds, the roots are actually the same in many cases because they are all part of the Semitic language family. You can check out what wikipedia says about the Semitic language family if you don't want to read the little parts I copy pasted from there earlier.

**wayne**

http://christianityinview.com/xncomparison.html

link shows difference and same for the religions