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Is Cable and the Internet Destroying the Country?
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03-12-2013 05:57 AM

 



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Is Cable and the Internet Destroying the Country?
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Listening to Tim Wu's book "The Master Switch" he pointed out something I had never thought of before. Back when there were only three channels on TV, NBC, ABC and CBS everybody was pretty much the same.

But enter cable TV and Ted Turner and now you have so many channels on CATV that the choices are overwhelming. In fact one ad I saw is proposing a concierge service that will alert you to content that you might be interested in. Maybe thats the next step beyond google. I say its about time as long as it doesn't become a googleonian payola scheme. Hardore Pawn, Cake Boss, Food Channel, Weather Channel and PPV with high def porn.

In Nazi Germany there was just one channel. Ditto the Soviet Union or maybe more but they all had the same thing on them. We had three for sixty years and thirty of those years the Legion for Decency was forcing happy endings in movies.

But now we have even more radical content on top of cable with Alex Jones pioneering the way. He's essentially doing what Ted Turner did to cable. Only instead of using satellites to break the ATT stranglehold over distribution networks Alex is using the internet to break the cable monopoly on content. And I am aware of at least two other fringe programs that are attempting to go to Alex's PPV type broadcast.

I remember the days of three channels as a kid. Watching the test pattern with the Indian on it Saturday mornings before the cartoons came on. Then came cable. Our village was an early adopter because we had a big hill in the way and the nearest broadcast antenna was 60 miles away. All the giant 100 foot antennas on everyones house came down once cable came along. I myself never got it because I moved to big cities where over the air reception with a rabbit ear was good. The first time I got cable was when it was provided free to the whole apartment complex. But after that you had to pay. I still remember the first time I saw MTV at someones house and I was thinking WTF?

So that's the question. Has cable and the internet made us so divided that we no longer have much in common? That we are now fragmented. Where is it all leading?
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el taco
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03-12-2013 06:03 AM

 



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Is Cable and the Internet Destroying the Country?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2013 05:57 AM)
Listening to Tim Wu's book "The Master Switch" he pointed out something I had never thought of before. Back when there were only three channels on TV, NBC, ABC and CBS everybody was pretty much the same.

But enter cable TV and Ted Turner and now you have so many channels on CATV that the choices are overwhelming. In fact one ad I saw is proposing a concierge service that will alert you to content that you might be interested in. Maybe thats the next step beyond google. I say its about time as long as it doesn't become a googleonian payola scheme. Hardore Pawn, Cake Boss, Food Channel, Weather Channel and PPV with high def porn.

In Nazi Germany there was just one channel. Ditto the Soviet Union or maybe more but they all had the same thing on them. We had three for sixty years and thirty of those years the Legion for Decency was forcing happy endings in movies.

But now we have even more radical content on top of cable with Alex Jones pioneering the way. He's essentially doing what Ted Turner did to cable. Only instead of using satellites to break the ATT stranglehold over distribution networks Alex is using the internet to break the cable monopoly on content. And I am aware of at least two other fringe programs that are attempting to go to Alex's PPV type broadcast.

I remember the days of three channels as a kid. Watching the test pattern with the Indian on it Saturday mornings before the cartoons came on. Then came cable. Our village was an early adopter because we had a big hill in the way and the nearest broadcast antenna was 60 miles away. All the giant 100 foot antennas on everyones house came down once cable came along. I myself never got it because I moved to big cities where over the air reception with a rabbit ear was good. The first time I got cable was when it was provided free to the whole apartment complex. But after that you had to pay. I still remember the first time I saw MTV at someones house and I was thinking WTF?

So that's the question. Has cable and the internet made us so divided that we no longer have much in common? That we are now fragmented. Where is it all leading?

Yes and no.

Has it destroyed american culture? No. America has no culture and never has.

Has it destroyed american commerce (manufacturing)? You better believe it. Much harder to do business across the country let alone the world over the phone than it is over the internet.

Since you're asking if access to information has destroyed the country by "freeing minds" (or whatever), the answer is no because all sources of information are subjective and/or tainted. Even the conspiracy information is essentially propaganda. Every one has an agenda.
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03-12-2013 06:07 AM

 



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Alex Jones Pay Per Veiw?
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03-12-2013 06:49 AM

 



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Kanigo2  Wrote: (03-12-2013 06:07 AM)
Alex Jones Pay Per Veiw?

ya got to pay for your freed0m
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03-12-2013 07:39 AM

 



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Laying the groundwork for the big Comcast bust?
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03-12-2013 07:52 AM

 



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Hoping that the Singularity is further out than it appears.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2013 05:57 AM)
So that's the question. Has cable and the internet made us so divided that we no longer have much in common? That we are now fragmented. Where is it all leading?

What about the majority of our history before television?. Were we so fragmented it was a danger to the Union? I think the problem with America is they look to TV to tell them how to feel what to think.
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03-12-2013 08:28 AM

 



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el taco  Wrote: (03-12-2013 06:03 AM)
Has it destroyed american culture? No. America has no culture and never has.

STFU, paleface.

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03-12-2013 08:52 AM

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No... Communists, slackers, criminals and idiots are.

Must be pre-conditions of getting elected to office these days, I think...

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yes it is.......surmized fo ya bitchs
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2013 05:57 AM)
Listening to Tim Wu's book "The Master Switch" he pointed out something I had never thought of before. Back when there were only three channels on TV, NBC, ABC and CBS everybody was pretty much the same.

But enter cable TV and Ted Turner and now you have so many channels on CATV that the choices are overwhelming. In fact one ad I saw is proposing a concierge service that will alert you to content that you might be interested in. Maybe thats the next step beyond google. I say its about time as long as it doesn't become a googleonian payola scheme. Hardore Pawn, Cake Boss, Food Channel, Weather Channel and PPV with high def porn.

In Nazi Germany there was just one channel. Ditto the Soviet Union or maybe more but they all had the same thing on them. We had three for sixty years and thirty of those years the Legion for Decency was forcing happy endings in movies.

But now we have even more radical content on top of cable with Alex Jones pioneering the way. He's essentially doing what Ted Turner did to cable. Only instead of using satellites to break the ATT stranglehold over distribution networks Alex is using the internet to break the cable monopoly on content. And I am aware of at least two other fringe programs that are attempting to go to Alex's PPV type broadcast.

I remember the days of three channels as a kid. Watching the test pattern with the Indian on it Saturday mornings before the cartoons came on. Then came cable. Our village was an early adopter because we had a big hill in the way and the nearest broadcast antenna was 60 miles away. All the giant 100 foot antennas on everyones house came down once cable came along. I myself never got it because I moved to big cities where over the air reception with a rabbit ear was good. The first time I got cable was when it was provided free to the whole apartment complex. But after that you had to pay. I still remember the first time I saw MTV at someones house and I was thinking WTF?

So that's the question. Has cable and the internet made us so divided that we no longer have much in common? That we are now fragmented. Where is it all leading?
Do we have any more or less wars, death, idiocy than is set by Historical precedent compared to 50 or 60 years ago?

I say, no...

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03-12-2013 05:39 PM

 



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Tim Wu's thesis as I get further into the book is that the resurrected Ma Bell will not tolerate the freedom of the internet much longer.

Deregulation has resurrected the old Frankenstein which is wedded to the government through its NSA data collection.

The tactics used on competitors such as having more lobbyists than legislators and leaving the windows open on competitors leased switching so that the pigeons crapped all over it and destroyed it may now be turned against the freedom of the net.

Obama is certainly no trust buster so there will be no help forthcoming from that quarter.

Its only a matter of time according to Wu.

Competition ain't a sin any longer.
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03-12-2013 06:07 PM

 



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No way, it makes a great babysitter!
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SaltWaterTaffy
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03-12-2013 06:09 PM

 



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Cable are. Internet are not.
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03-12-2013 06:17 PM

 



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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2013 05:57 AM)
Where is it all leading?

to six million channels and nothing on.

Actually it is leading directly toward the two way tv screen that kept tabs on the population in "1984".
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