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Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
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mstra lop guest User ID: 102898 06-17-2012 08:20 AM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
SoSayWeAll Wrote:You moontards are almost as nuts as some of the other woo-woo cliques that hang out here.
Of course I knew that already, but it's fun setting you off.
YES I'd gladly volenteer to take that ride, and NO I don't give a frak whose flag is on the hull as long as the thrusters light up when I push the button.
Have a nice evening, you ill-begotton bunch of fruitloops.
You would be the moontard. Postman knows damn well the Apollo landings were a hoax, but he's a paid disinformant. What's your excuse?
I'd love to take the ride myself, but I spent a lot of years studying physics, and would want some answers on radiation shielding, answers that are not and have never been forthcoming. Some BS quote from van Allen is not an answer. Or perhaps you have a good explanation why no space mission has gone beyond low Earth orbit in the last 40 years?
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Pi Infinity User ID: 3.14159265 06-17-2012 08:31 AM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
LOL at this thread.
As if we can build ANOTHER base on the space station orbiting us.
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Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη Disgruntled but unarmed User ID: 39573 06-17-2012 09:48 AM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
mstra Wrote:You would be the moontard. Postman knows damn well the Apollo landings were a hoax, but he's a paid disinformant. What's your excuse?
Who's paying me and more importantly, where the f*ck is my money?
mstra Wrote:I'd love to take the ride myself, but I spent a lot of years studying physics,
Not formally, of course
mstra Wrote:and would want some answers on radiation shielding, answers that are not and have never been forthcoming. Some BS quote from van Allen is not an answer.
What is BS about the quote? I can find you other cites from Van Allen on
how the astronauts went through the belts without harm. Along with cites
from other real scientists with actual degrees and doctorates in physics as
well as medicine.
mstra Wrote:Or perhaps you have a good explanation why no space mission has gone beyond low Earth orbit in the last 40 years?
Got a few billion to spend on it? Congress was already cutting the budget
while Armstrong took his first steps. Space races are expensive and in
the era of detente not found to be worth it.
"Why did you build houses where tornadoes were apt to happen?"
— Pat Robertson, on recent storm deaths, explaining how he thinks
we should have never populated the entire Midwest

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SoSayWeAll Banned User ID: 16731 06-17-2012 09:56 AM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
DrPostman Wrote:mstra Wrote:You would be the moontard. Postman knows damn well the Apollo landings were a hoax, but he's a paid disinformant. What's your excuse?
Who's paying me and more importantly, where the f*ck is my money?
mstra Wrote:I'd love to take the ride myself, but I spent a lot of years studying physics,
Not formally, of course 
mstra Wrote:and would want some answers on radiation shielding, answers that are not and have never been forthcoming. Some BS quote from van Allen is not an answer.
What is BS about the quote? I can find you other cites from Van Allen on
how the astronauts went through the belts without harm. Along with cites
from other real scientists with actual degrees and doctorates in physics as
well as medicine.
mstra Wrote:Or perhaps you have a good explanation why no space mission has gone beyond low Earth orbit in the last 40 years?
Got a few billion to spend on it? Congress was already cutting the budget
while Armstrong took his first steps. Space races are expensive and in
the era of detente not found to be worth it.
Got a few billion to spend on it? Congress was already cutting the budget
while Armstrong took his first steps. Space races are expensive and in
the era of detente not found to be worth it.
Not to mention the need to piss away billions on fine upstanding young urbanites so they vote Democrat and don't burn down their own neighborhoods!
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Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη Disgruntled but unarmed User ID: 39573 06-17-2012 10:03 AM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
SoSayWeAll Wrote:Not to mention the need to piss away billions on fine upstanding young urbanites so they vote Democrat and don't burn down their own neighborhoods!
Doesn't hold a candle to the costs of war and supporting the US
military-industrial complex.
"Why did you build houses where tornadoes were apt to happen?"
— Pat Robertson, on recent storm deaths, explaining how he thinks
we should have never populated the entire Midwest

DrPostman BsD
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DrongoDingo Registered User User ID: 102912 06-17-2012 10:15 AM
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DrongoDingo Registered User User ID: 102912 06-17-2012 10:15 AM
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Wobbly.
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The Evil AC I am not a number!!! User ID: 666 06-17-2012 10:16 AM
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Baldrick Registered User User ID: 102072 06-17-2012 11:53 AM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
DrPostman Wrote:SoSayWeAll Wrote:Not to mention the need to piss away billions on fine upstanding young urbanites so they vote Democrat and don't burn down their own neighborhoods!
Doesn't hold a candle to the costs of war and supporting the US
military-industrial complex.
Let's get back to the subject at hand. I read a report where it was stated that the next manned missions will need a magnetic field that works on a similar basis as the earths.
Has any info been released on the tech being used?
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Baldrick: Well, I had to haggle.
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sword777 lop guest User ID: 101639 06-17-2012 05:34 PM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
DrPostman Wrote:Humans haven’t set foot on the Moon — or any other world outside of our own, for that matter — since Cernan and Schmitt departed the lunar surface on December 14, 1972. That will make 40 years on that date this coming December. And despite dreams of moon bases and lunar colonies, there hasn’t even been a controlled landing there since the Soviet Luna 24 sample return mission in 1976 (not including impacted probes.) So in light of the challenges and costs of such an endeavor, is there any real value in a return to the Moon?
Some scientists are saying yes.
Researchers from the UK, Germany and The Netherlands have submitted a paper to the journal Planetary and Space Science outlining the scientific importance of future lunar surface missions. Led by Ian A. Crawford from London’s Birkbeck College, the paper especially focuses on the value of the Moon in the study of our own planet and its formation, the development of the Earth-Moon system as well as other rocky worlds and even its potential contribution in life science and medicinal research.
Even though some research on the lunar surface may be able to be performed by robotic missions, Crawford et al. ultimately believe that “addressing them satisfactorily will require an end to the 40-year hiatus of lunar surface exploration.”
The team’s paper outlines many different areas of research that would benefit from future exploration, either manned or robotic. Surface composition, lunar volcanism, cratering history — and thus insight into a proposed period of “heavy bombardment” that seems to have affected the inner Solar System over 3.8 billion years ago — as well as the presence of water ice could be better investigated with manned missions, Crawford et al. suggest.
(Read: A New Look At Apollo Samples Supports Ancient Impact Theory)
In addition, the “crashed remains of unsterilized spacecraft” on the Moon warrant study, proposes Crawford’s team. No, we’re not talking about alien spaceships — unless the aliens are us! The suggestion is that the various machinery we’ve sent to the lunar surface since the advent of the Space Age may harbor Earthly microbes that could be returned for study after decades in a lunar environment. Such research could shed new light on how life can — or can’t — survive in a space environment, as well as how long such “contaminants” might linger on another world.
Crawford’s team also argues that only manned missions could offer all-important research on the long-term effects of low-gravity environments on human physiology, as well as how to best sustain exploration crews in space. If we are to ever become a society with the ability to explore and exist beyond our own planet, such knowledge is critical.
And outside of lunar exploration itself, the Moon offers a place from which to perform deeper study of the Universe. The lunar farside, shielded as it is from radio transmissions and other interference from Earth, would be a great place for radio astronomy — especially in the low-frequency range of 10-30 MHz, which is absorbed by Earth’s ionosphere and is thus relatively unavailable to ground-based telescopes. A radio observatory on the lunar farside would have a stable platform from which to observe some of the earliest times of the Universe, between the Big Bang and the formation of the first stars.
Of course, before anything can be built on the Moon or retrieved from its surface, serious plans must be made for such missions. Fortunately, says Crawford’s team, the 2007 Global Exploration Strategy — a framework for exploration created by 13 space agencies from around the world — puts the Moon as the “nearest and first goal” for future missions, as well as Mars and asteroids. Yet with subsequent budget cuts for NASA (a key player for many exploration missions) when and how that goal will be reached still remains to be seen.
Read The Rest HERE
I'm very interested in that part.
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Ray Registered User User ID: 102957 06-17-2012 05:47 PM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
It was long ago. I don't believe they ever set foot there. So what?
Why do people still try to convince the unconvinced after all these years?
It's no big deal anymore, the gubmint lies about lots of things and the earth keeps spinning. Why keep bringing it up?
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Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη Disgruntled but unarmed User ID: 39573 06-17-2012 07:21 PM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
Baldrick Wrote:Let's get back to the subject at hand. I read a report where it was stated that the next manned missions will need a magnetic field that works on a similar basis as the earths.
Has any info been released on the tech being used?
Not that I know of. Why would they need a magnetic field? Are you talking
about a form of protection for a base on the Moon because I can see how that
would make sense.
Lurky Lew Wrote:I'm very interested in that part.
Especially with NASA saying "Stay away from our stuff on the Moon".
Some of that stuff would make a trip up there worth a lot of money,
perhaps even enough to pay for the trip.
Ray Wrote:It was long ago. I don't believe they ever set foot there. So what?
Why do people still try to convince the unconvinced after all these years?
It's no big deal anymore, the gubmint lies about lots of things and the earth keeps spinning. Why keep bringing it up?
Because we are going back, and soon. I don't post this stuff for people like
you. In a few years you will be regarded as nothing more than those old
cranks on the street corner yelling about the end of the world. Just because
governments lie doesn't mean they lie about everything. Every single attempt
on this thread to claim we didn't go was shot down in flames. I want people
that folks like you might confuse to be able to see how and why they got shot
down.
If you don't like threads about the near future of Moon exploration and
exploitation then why read them?
"Why did you build houses where tornadoes were apt to happen?"
— Pat Robertson, on recent storm deaths, explaining how he thinks
we should have never populated the entire Midwest

DrPostman BsD
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Baldrick Registered User User ID: 102072 06-17-2012 10:28 PM
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RE: Is It Time to Return to the Moon?
DrPostman Wrote:Baldrick Wrote:Let's get back to the subject at hand. I read a report where it was stated that the next manned missions will need a magnetic field that works on a similar basis as the earths.
Has any info been released on the tech being used?
Not that I know of. Why would they need a magnetic field? Are you talking
about a form of protection for a base on the Moon because I can see how that
would make sense.
Can't remember off hand where I read the report/ article or it's source. It wasn't zeta I know that much.
It's a hot topic the moon landing. Did we go? I say yes. Did we go using the tech that was presented to the public? I say no.
I am looking forward to this latest news and the possibilities it presents.
It should settle some of the for and against arguments of the original missions.
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Gibbie ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 49076 06-17-2012 10:31 PM
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I am in favor of cost effective robotic exploration of the moon. Lets get some HD video of the lunar surface.
Challenge your programming.
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