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**ULP UNKNOWN LUNATIC POSTER**

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Nearly 100 boats and barges were waiting for passage Monday along an 11-mile stretch of the Mississippi River that has been closed due to low water levels, the U.S. Coast Guard said.
New Orleans-based Coast Guard spokesman Ryan Tippets said the stretch of river near Greenville, Miss., has been closed intermittently since Aug. 11, when a vessel ran aground.
Tippets said the area is currently being surveyed for dredging and a Coast Guard boat is replacing eight navigation markers. He says 40 northbound vessels and 57 southbound vessels were stranded and waiting for passage Monday afternoon.
Tippets said it is not immediately clear when the river will re-open. A stretch of river near Greenville was also closed in 1988 due to low water levels caused by severe drought. The river hit a record low on the Memphis gauge that year.
The Mississippi River from Illinois to Louisiana has seen water levels plummet due to drought conditions in the past three months. Near Memphis, the river level was more than 12 feet lower than normal for this time of year.
Maintaining the navigation channel is essential to keeping vessels from colliding or running aground. Thousands of tons of material are shipped on the river each day.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is using dredges to dig out sand and ensure the navigation channel is deep enough for barges loaded with coal, steel, agricultural products and other goods. The Corps is required to provide a minimum navigation channel that is 9 feet deep and 300 feet wide on the lower Mississippi River.
Shippers who move material up and down the river on a daily basis have complained that the shallow river is forcing them to lighten the loads on their barges to avoid hitting bottom. Lighter loads mean less revenue for the shippers, who still have to deal with costs such as labor and fuel.
Also, low water at docks and terminals makes it more difficult to load or unload material, as ships have trouble getting close enough to docks.
The river level in Memphis was minus-8.5 feet on Friday, according to the Corps of Engineers. The "minus" reading does not mean the river is dried up — it's just a measurement based on how the Memphis river gauge is designed. Essentially, the reading means the river level is far below normal.
The record for the lowest measured water level for the Mississippi River near Memphis is minus-10.7 feet, in 1988. The Corps has said the river is not expected to reach record lows.

http://news.yahoo.com/11-mile-stretch-mi...15696.html

**STOPPITT**

When was the last time this happened?
Srjceahd

**•REC** · **•REC** 14877 User ID: 14877 08-21-2012 12:24 AM **Posts: 20,428**

They are also having problems with tap water.

Saltwater in Mississippi Taints Drinking Supply
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872...83674.html

**Timetraveler**

STOPPITT Wrote:

When was the last time this happened?

The article said 1988 and it was 2 feet lower then. So it is unusual, but known to happen.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 113108 08-21-2012 12:30 AM

How can a tidal river as massive as the Mississippi be susceptible to drought/low water levels?

The only thing that makes sense to me as the the water is finding a new cavity between the ocean and the 11 mile stretch.

Is there some other logical explanation?

**ULP UNKNOWN LUNATIC POSTER**

i remember reading another post yesterday about something wrong with the Shenandoah river that water levels were dropping for unknown reasons...

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 115728 08-21-2012 12:41 AM

ULP UNKNOWN LUNATIC POSTER Wrote:

i remember reading another post yesterday about something wrong with the Shenandoah river that water levels were dropping for unknown reasons...

a record heat and drought are unknown reasons?

**STOPPITT**

Timetraveler Wrote:

STOPPITT Wrote:
When was the last time this happened?

The article said 1988 and it was 2 feet lower then. So it is unusual, but known to happen.

Still doesn't sound good. All the trade. Prices will go up.

**Karu**

ULP UNKNOWN LUNATIC POSTER Wrote:

i remember reading another post yesterday about something wrong with the Shenandoah river that water levels were dropping for unknown reasons...

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Official...North-Fork

**Black Angus** lop guest User ID: 89825 08-21-2012 12:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Haa1AhpOo...re=related

**ULP UNKNOWN LUNATIC POSTER**

LoP Guest Wrote:

ULP UNKNOWN LUNATIC POSTER Wrote:
i remember reading another post yesterday about something wrong with the Shenandoah river that water levels were dropping for unknown reasons...

a record heat and drought are unknown reasons?

NO NOT RELATED TO HEAT AND DROUGHT:

ARRISONBURG, Va. (AP) — Officials are trying to figure out what caused water levels to drop twice in a four-day span along the Shenandoah River's North Fork.

The Daily News-Record (Sorry, no url shorteners/NNqPAK) reports the Shenandoah Riverkeeper advocacy group has sent letters asking about 800 landowners to report unusual observations about the river.

Data taken from a U.S. Geological Survey gauge near Strasburg shows the water level dropped more than 3 inches on June 29, the day a severe windstorm struck the region. The levels dropped again on July 3.

The river's level hit 1.7 feet on June 29 after being at about 2.4 feet around June 20. In the span of a few hours on June 29, the water flow went from 175 to 65 cubic feet per second.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/48...ow-Mystery

http://www.dailypress.com/news/virginia/...2682.story

**Disturbed nli** Not the real one! User ID: 1 08-21-2012 12:48 AM

Isaiah 19
King James Version (KJV)
19 The burden of Egypt. Behold, the Lord rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.

2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.

6 And they shall turn the rivers far away; and the brooks of defence shall be emptied and dried up: the reeds and flags shall wither.

7 The paper reeds by the brooks, by the mouth of the brooks, and every thing sown by the brooks, shall wither, be driven away, and be no more.

8 The fishers also shall mourn, and all they that cast angle into the brooks shall lament, and they that spread nets upon the waters shall languish.

9 Moreover they that work in fine flax, and they that weave networks, shall be confounded.

10 And they shall be broken in the purposes thereof, all that make sluices and ponds for fish.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 115788 08-21-2012 01:00 AM

Disturbed nli Wrote:

Isaiah 19
King James Version (KJV)
19 The burden of Egypt. Behold, the Lord rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.

2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.

6 And they shall turn the rivers far away; and the brooks of defence shall be emptied and dried up: the reeds and flags shall wither.

7 The paper reeds by the brooks, by the mouth of the brooks, and every thing sown by the brooks, shall wither, be driven away, and be no more.

8 The fishers also shall mourn, and all they that cast angle into the brooks shall lament, and they that spread nets upon the waters shall languish.

9 Moreover they that work in fine flax, and the that weave networks, shall be confoun
10 And they shall be broken in the purposes thereof, all that mae sluices and ponds for fish.

I was a Coast Guardsman stationed aboard Sumac, dry docked in Greenville, MS., and I CANNOT believe these river levels, Man.

**Anne O'Mally**

•REC Wrote:

They are also having problems with tap water.

Saltwater in Mississippi Taints Drinking Supply
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872...83674.html

a-yup!

Anne OMally Wrote:

BJ Wrote:
A mite off topic of the Shenandoah River, but here's anothe river or two is going dry:

CBS News) "IN THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY - For weeks we have been reporting on the devastating drought that has gripped two-thirds of the country and is ruining farm crops. Eighty-seven percent of the High Plains is now in drought, compared to fifteen percent last year. And in one area, farmers have yet another problem: they're still dealing with the effects of floods that swept through the area a year ago."

My sister writes that water rationing in the cities has started, with a $500 fine for anyone who violates, because the river where Lincoln's (NE) water comes from is dangerously low. The ground is cracking open everywhere.

How many more rivers drying up hven't been reported in the news?

watched a vid on that yesterday, seems there is an issue with the river flowing backwards due to salt water coming up under the river bed and disrupting flow. they are building a, er, dam? under the river, to try to stop it???

http://youtu.be/UONudKUPkuQ

Google Hangout

Published on Aug 16, 2012 by CNN

CNN's Chad Myers explains why salt water is moving up the Mississippi River and threatening Louisiana's drinking water.

(and again with the good ol' army corp of engineers)

more good stuff on this thread:

https://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Officia...North-Fork

**Anne O'Mally**

http://youtu.be/UONudKUPkuQ

freaking CP won't let me upload pics or vids. :( but this is a short and informative vid.