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**Galaxy**

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 40036 04-19-2012 03:26 PM

Galaxy Wrote:

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**Free Range Humans** · (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012 03:32 PM by Free Range Humans.)

Galaxy Wrote:

That's from a bullshit narrative that never historically existed.

Palestine is a British Colonial Fiction.

In October, 1918 as World War I was ending, the British military, who were in overall command of the region, divided the area which is now Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Palestine and Jordan into three zones which were called Occupied Enemy Territory Administrations (OETA).

OETA South was occupied and administered by the British and was later to become Palestine in Mandatory Palestine.

OETA South was a strip of land along the eastern Mediterranean coast between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, Dead Sea and Wadi Arabah. Its southern boundary was where the Egyptian-Israeli border is today, and its northern boundary was roughly were the Lebanese-Israeli border is today.

OETA West was occupied and administered by the French and was later to become a part of Mandatory Syria and the Lebanon.

OETA West was a strip of land along the eastern Mediterranean coast about as wide as OETA South, which was to its south and Alexandretta was its northernmost district. The southern part (roughly 40%) of this area later became the Republic of Lebanon.

OETA East was occupied by Arab forces and administered by an Arab administration, both led by Emir Faisal, until July, 1920 when French forces defeated the Arab forces in OETA East and ended its Arab administration.

OETA East was inland of both OETA West and OETA South. The much larger northern part of OETA East, which was east of OETA West, was to became a part of Mandatory Syria and the Lebanon. The much smaller southern part of OETA East, which was east of OETA South, was to become the initial part of Transjordan in Mandatory Palestine.

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- When Great Britain was selected to be the Mandatory for Palestine by the Principal Allied Powers on April 25, 1920 during the San Remo Conference the borders of Mandatory Palestine were left undefined, but during the conference the Principal Allied Powers also gave themselves the power to determine the borders of the mandates for Syria, Mesopotamia, and Palestine.

- The border between Egypt and Mandatory Palestine already existed in 1920. It had been established in 1906 in the AGREEMENT signed and exchanged at Rafeh on (13 Shaban, 1324, 18th Ailul 1322), 1st October, 1906, between the Commissioners of the Turkish Sultanate and the Commissioners of the Egyptian Khediviate, concerning the fixing of a separating administrative line between the Vilayet of Hejaz and Governorate of Jerusalem and the Sinai Peninsula.

In 1906 Egypt was technically a part of the Ottoman Empire but had been essentially independent of the Ottoman Empire and ruled by a hereditary Khedive (Viceroy) since 1840. While at the same time Egypt was controlled by the British who had been occupying and controlling Egypt since 1882.

On May 3, 1906 the British Government issued an ultimatum to the Ottoman Emperor and threatened to seize Ottoman islands in the Mediterranean Sea if the Emperor didn’t agree within ten days to a demarcation of the Egyptian border on the traditional Rafah to Aqaba line.

The British took this action because the Ottoman Emperor had been considering shifting the border westwards to a line which would run from Rafah to Suez, and the British did not want this to happen because it would place the border at the southern entrance to the Suez Canal.

The Ottoman Emperor accepted the British Government’s terms and an Ottoman-Egyptian Commission demarcated the border on the ground and prepared a report on the demarcation. Of the four ‘Egyptian’ members of the Commission three were British, and of the two ‘Egyptian’ signatories on the agreement one was British.

On November 5, 1914, as World War I began, the British deposed the Khedive. They then declared the end of the Khediviate, ended Ottoman sovereignty over Egypt, established the Sultanate of Egypt, made Egypt a protectorate, and declared that the uncle of the deposed Khedive would be the new Sultan.

The Khedives and Sultans of Egypt were not Egyptians or Arabs; they were the descendents of an Albanian, Muhammad Ali, who was a Commander in the Ottoman Army and had seized power in Egypt in the early 1800s after having been sent there by the Ottoman government.

The 1906 border was confirmed several times during the mandate period by the British and Egyptian Governments, and the League of Nations. The last time being in 1947, when the Egyptian Government informed the British Government that it would build a fence along the border through the British military base at Rafah which extended 2 miles over the border into Egyptian territory. The British requested that the base’s perimeter be accepted as the frontier but the Egyptians refused the request.

- The Treaty of Sevres was signed by the Allies and the Ottoman Empire on August 10, 1920.

In the treaty the Ottoman Empire gave up all its rights to its Arab territories, agreed to the creation of the mandates for Syria, Mesopotamia and Palestine, and agreed that the Principal Allied Powers would select their Mandatories and determine their borders.

However, the treaty was never ratified by the Ottoman Parliament and never came into effect. It was superseded by the Treaty of Lausanne on July 24, 1923.

- When the Arab administration in OETA East was forcibly ended by the French in July, 1920, the southern part of OETA East, which was not included in Mandatory Syria and the Lebanon, was left without an administration.

The British High Commissioner of Palestine, Herbert Samuel, went to this area on August 20, 1920 to establish a British presence there and described these events in:

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 88603 04-19-2012 03:31 PM

Free Range Humans Wrote:

O Strategos Wrote:
Immigration during the Ottoman empire or not, there can never be any justification for the wholesale destruction of villages, the ethnic cleansing, and the mass killings that forced 750,000 non-Jewish refugees to flee Palestine during 1947-48 to make way for a "Jewish State."

That being said, the only solution possible is the one-state solution.

One secular, non-race non-ethnic non-religious state in which every citizen has the same equal rights to live in any community they wish,

and every refugee and descendant of refugees is granted the right of return AND paid reparations, down to the last penny.

Every refugee must be given private lands that were stolen from their families. Period.

And Jerusalem must remain the eternal city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims, not Jews only.

In 1920, the League of Nations' Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine stated that there were hardly 700,000 people living in Palestine of whom practically all had entered Palestine in the last 40 years:
“There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ. Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race.

The majority of land titles held by Arabs are BRITISH rather than Ottoman with a British addendum page added. Care to venture a guess why?

Ahem...

Quote:Immigration during the Ottoman empire or not, there can never be any justification for the wholesale destruction of villages, the ethnic cleansing, and the mass killings that forced 750,000 non-Jewish refugees to flee Palestine during 1947-48 to make way for a "Jewish State."

**Tune 440** · **Tune 440** Guitarissimo User ID: 90853 04-19-2012 03:33 PM **Posts: 1,984**

O Strategos Wrote:

Immigration during the Ottoman empire or not, there can never be any justification for the wholesale destruction of villages, the ethnic cleansing, and the mass killings that forced 750,000 non-Jewish refugees to flee Palestine during 1947-48 to make way for a "Jewish State."

That being said, the only solution possible is the one-state solution.

One secular, non-race non-ethnic non-religious state in which every citizen has the same equal rights to live in any community they wish,

and every refugee and descendant of refugees is granted the right of return AND paid reparations, down to the last penny.

Every refugee must be given private lands that were stolen from their families. Period.

And Jerusalem must remain the eternal city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims, not Jews only.

Till then there can be no peace!

.

**Free Range Humans**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Free Range Humans Wrote:
O Strategos Wrote:
Immigration during the Ottoman empire or not, there can never be any justification for the wholesale destruction of villages, the ethnic cleansing, and the mass killings that forced 750,000 non-Jewish refugees to flee Palestine during 1947-48 to make way for a "Jewish State."

That being said, the only solution possible is the one-state solution.

One secular, non-race non-ethnic non-religious state in which every citizen has the same equal rights to live in any community they wish,

and every refugee and descendant of refugees is granted the right of return AND paid reparations, down to the last penny.

Every refugee must be given private lands that were stolen from their families. Period.

And Jerusalem must remain the eternal city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims, not Jews only.

In 1920, the League of Nations' Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine stated that there were hardly 700,000 people living in Palestine of whom practically all had entered Palestine in the last 40 years:
“There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ. Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race.

The majority of land titles held by Arabs are BRITISH rather than Ottoman with a British addendum page added. Care to venture a guess why?

Ahem...

Quote:Immigration during the Ottoman empire or not, there can never be any justification for the wholesale destruction of villages, the ethnic cleansing, and the mass killings that forced 750,000 non-Jewish refugees to flee Palestine during 1947-48 to make way for a "Jewish State."

No different that the Turks, Armenians, etc who after hundreds of years were displaced by the Arabs and Brits.

**Free Range Humans** · (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012 03:42 PM by Free Range Humans.)

Tune 440 Wrote:

O Strategos Wrote:
Immigration during the Ottoman empire or not, there can never be any justification for the wholesale destruction of villages, the ethnic cleansing, and the mass killings that forced 750,000 non-Jewish refugees to flee Palestine during 1947-48 to make way for a "Jewish State."

That being said, the only solution possible is the one-state solution.

One secular, non-race non-ethnic non-religious state in which every citizen has the same equal rights to live in any community they wish,

and every refugee and descendant of refugees is granted the right of return AND paid reparations, down to the last penny.

Every refugee must be given private lands that were stolen from their families. Period.

And Jerusalem must remain the eternal city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims, not Jews only.

Till then there can be no peace!

.

There is never peace where Muslims demand power until all non-muslims are subjugated or dead.

This is the history of Islam. Everywhere it exists outside Hejaz was taken by force and every other culture and ideology suppressed. Genocide and institutionalized mass rape followed by the Jizyah and a caste system which places Islamic Men above all others(doubly so when those Muslims are Arabs as they will lord over Muslims of other ethnicities).

There will never be peace for the other peoples of the world until they are completely subjugated by Islam. They consider Canaan to be Dar Al-Islam because once they conquered it from Byzatines to let anyone else live there without being subjugated was an insult to Islam.

**Free Range Humans**

So which one of these maps is supposed to be this mythical "Palestine"?

[Image: OttomanEmpiredecline.gif]

[Image: MiddleEastin1920colonialrule.jpg]

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91102 04-19-2012 03:56 PM

I really do not care, OP, STFU with your constant MSM harping and change the channel already.

**Janie Jones**

Free Range Humans Wrote:

That's from a bullshit narrative that never historically existed.

You mean like the bullshit narrative that Khazarian Turkic converts have any right to be in the land God reserved for the Sephardic Jewish, Christian and Muslims descendants of Abraham?

**808hawk** · **808hawk** ∆ User ID: 81790 04-19-2012 06:44 PM **Posts: 2,399**

Correct, and its called Israel.

**UcDat**

Janie Jones Wrote:

Free Range Humans Wrote:
That's from a bullshit narrative that never historically existed.

You mean like the bullshit narrative that Khazarian Turkic converts have any right to be in the land God reserved for the Sephardic Jewish, Christian and Muslims descendants of Abraham?

**Free Range Humans**

Janie Jones Wrote:

Free Range Humans Wrote:
That's from a bullshit narrative that never historically existed.

You mean like the bullshit narrative that Khazarian Turkic converts have any right to be in the land God reserved for the Sephardic Jewish, Christian and Muslims descendants of Abraham?

Another bullshit narrative. Khazars still exist and they are Muslims not Jews who live in central Asia. Jews have the have the same J2 YDNA as other similar near eastern populations and their Sephardic brethren.
Pgceiono

**Richard Eldritch**

Some serious Jewtard arse being handed out here.... Rofl

**Michael Alan Keith**

O Strategos Wrote:

Immigration during the Ottoman empire or not, there can never be any justification for the wholesale destruction of villages, the ethnic cleansing, and the mass killings that forced 750,000 non-Jewish refugees to flee Palestine during 1947-48 to make way for a "Jewish State."

That being said, the only solution possible is the one-state solution.

One secular, non-race non-ethnic non-religious state in which every citizen has the same equal rights to live in any community they wish,

and every refugee and descendant of refugees is granted the right of return AND paid reparations, down to the last penny.

Every refugee must be given private lands that were stolen from their families. Period.

And Jerusalem must remain the eternal city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims, not Jews only.

The Single State Solution is the only solution. Everything else is hate and doomed to fail.

Both the Jews and the Muslims need to learn how to not hate.

But I think a half million UN troops on the ground could work it out in less time than America has already spent in Afghanistan.