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**Glass of Orange Juice** lop guest User ID: 78235 06-01-2012 06:45 PM

Logically and undeniably.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MSIkH2e28c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLleIgJuvO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Eur0b73pk
I've been watching these videos and as much as I have a disdain for the elite that are obviously controlling our way of life behind the scenes..

I'm having my doubts regarding what really occurred on 9/11.

Did Israel really set themselves up as a red herring? Were explosives used? What hit the Pentagon?

Are some of us guilty of emotionally compromising ourselves and our arguments by subjecting others to ridicule?

Check these videos out, they're 3 parters and as much as you guys might not enjoy hearing the other side its the only way to find these things out. I'm no truther, and surely no sheep. Just want a serious discussion. So let's wane through the bullshit of both sides.
Heartflowers

**Glass of Orange Juice** lop guest User ID: 78235 06-01-2012 06:46 PM

Yes this is from 2007 lol.

**SexualChocolate**

sadly the real truth will never be known. Both sides have f*cked it up so much that the truth is lost in a sea of lies.

**Glass of Orange Juice** lop guest User ID: 78235 06-01-2012 06:52 PM

SexualChocolate Wrote:

sadly the real truth will never be known. Both sides have f*cked it up so much that the truth is lost in a sea of lies.

My personal opinion is that 9/11 was made to happen just as it happened.

In other words, get us fighting about it and leave a smokescreen of controlled opposition and misinformation that gets us talking about it and leaving us emotional.

A literal 'outside looking in' job.

Was the whole scenario predicted? Us fighting about it? There's gotta be a reason why we're where we were years ago and the bankers are still making money...

If it were FACT that 9/11 was an irrefutable inside job then how come it isn't common knowledge?

What a f*cked up world we live in.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 46403 06-01-2012 06:53 PM

People are going to believe what is within their comfort zones, and not question what they are seeing right in front of their eyes. These two shitbirds have no engineering, aeronautical, or demolition experience. The thousands of experts who've looked at this and raise questions do. They interviewed people who don't have enough knowledge to have a coherent discussion. These are "strawman" interviews.

The Empire State Building was hit with a similar size aircraft after WWII. There was a huge fire, burning AVGAS, the works. It didn't fall into it's own footprint. No building before or since in human history with a steel frame ever fell into it's own footprint from a fire, no matter how hot it was. Building 7 wasn't hit AT ALL. Those points are just the tip of the iceberg.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 97775 06-01-2012 06:54 PM

It was a conspiracy

OR

Our law enforcement agencies along with our entire military are completely incompetent and let the country be taken over by razor blades...

Jptdknpa

Which way do they want it? I dont mind either way...

**Gym Nasium** · **Gym Nasium** Subscriber User ID: 99791 06-01-2012 06:56 PM **Posts: 7,729**

Later... BilderBerg '12 is being called out live...

http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg2012/

**Glass of Orange Juice** lop guest User ID: 78235 06-01-2012 06:56 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

It was a conspiracy

OR

Our law enforcement agencies along with our entire military are completely incompetent and let the country be taken over by razor blades...

Which way do they want it? I dont mind either way...

Either we have too much common sense or not enough...
chuckle

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 46403 06-01-2012 06:57 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

It was a conspiracy

OR

Our law enforcement agencies along with our entire military are completely incompetent and let the country be taken over by razor blades...

Which way do they want it? I dont mind either way...

How the hell could anybody in their right mind believe some dudes with box cutters on ALL 4 AIRCRAFT could have taken it over? You mean to tell me there wasn't ONE man onboard who could have stood up and beat the shit out of these guys? You mean to tell me that military trained airliner pilots would allow some idiot to hijack their plane with a box cutter? I don't know about anybody else, but I'd take a slashing before I'd let some lunatic fly my plane into a building.

**SexualChocolate**

LoP Guest Wrote:

People are going to believe what is within their comfort zones, and not question what they are seeing right in front of their eyes. These two shitbirds have no engineering, aeronautical, or demolition experience. The thousands of experts who've looked at this and raise questions do. They interviewed people who don't have enough knowledge to have a coherent discussion. These are "strawman" interviews.

The Empire State Building was hit with a similar size aircraft after WWII. There was a huge fire, burning AVGAS, the works. It didn't fall into it's own footprint. No building before or since in human history with a steel frame ever fell into it's own footprint from a fire, no matter how hot it was. Building 7 wasn't hit AT ALL. Those points are just the tip of the iceberg.

did the plane that hit the ESB weigh over 600,000 lbs. and was it traveling over 500MPH? You must take this into consideration as well.
Just because "it never happened before" means jack shit.
I have heard this before and you can't dismiss it just because it never happened before.
I have heard people say "how could an aluminum tube make a steel and concrete building collapse"
simple, kinetic energy.
A bullet is soft lead and copper, but if you move it fast enough it will punch holes in steel plates no problem. I really am surprised the buildings did not collapse right away.

**smerve**

**Glass of Orange Juice** lop guest User ID: 78235 06-01-2012 07:08 PM

SexualChocolate Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
People are going to believe what is within their comfort zones, and not question what they are seeing right in front of their eyes. These two shitbirds have no engineering, aeronautical, or demolition experience. The thousands of experts who've looked at this and raise questions do. They interviewed people who don't have enough knowledge to have a coherent discussion. These are "strawman" interviews.

The Empire State Building was hit with a similar size aircraft after WWII. There was a huge fire, burning AVGAS, the works. It didn't fall into it's own footprint. No building before or since in human history with a steel frame ever fell into it's own footprint from a fire, no matter how hot it was. Building 7 wasn't hit AT ALL. Those points are just the tip of the iceberg.

did the plane that hit the ESB weigh over 600,000 lbs. and was it traveling over 500MPH? You must take this into consideration as well.
Just because "it never happened before" means jack shit.
I have heard this before and you can't dismiss it just because it never happened before.
I have heard people say "how could an aluminum tube make a steel and concrete building collapse"
simple, kinetic energy.
A bullet is soft lead and copper, but if you move it fast enough it will punch holes in steel plates no problem. I really am surprised the buildings did not collapse right away.

Exactly, some people dismiss science and logic when they want to prove that the gubbermint did 9/11.

**Gym Nasium** · **Gym Nasium** Subscriber User ID: 99791 06-01-2012 07:14 PM **Posts: 7,729**

Glass of Orange Juice Wrote:

Exactly, some people dismiss science and logic when they want to prove that the gubbermint did 9/11.

Totally illuminating... (QWERT-ish) I hope I'm not the only one who's noticing this..?

**Glass of Orange Juice** lop guest User ID: 78235 06-01-2012 07:20 PM

Gym Nasium Wrote:

Glass of Orange Juice Wrote:
Exactly, some people dismiss science and logic when they want to prove that the gubbermint did 9/11.

Totally illuminating... (QWERT-ish) I hope I'm not the only one who's noticing this..?

Huh?

**Glass of Orange Juice** lop guest User ID: 78235 06-01-2012 07:23 PM

Yeah the gubbermint thing was kinda rude but still..