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**Only Fools and Horses** lop guest User ID: 122480 09-22-2012 02:52 PM

Mormon church threatens to excommunicate member who criticized Romney

A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints says that church leadership is on a witch hunt against him after he criticized Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

David Twede, a fifth-generation Mormon, told .. his bishop and three other church leaders in Orlando ordered him to “Cease and desist, Brother Twede” after they found discussions about Romney at the blog MormonThink.com. Twede said that he felt “attacked, cornered, and very anxious” as the church officials informed him that they had scheduled a Sept. 30 excommunication “for apostasy.”

The Encyclopedia of Mormonism defines an apostate as someone who has “seriously contravened or ignored cardinal Church teachings.”... / snip

Read more:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ritic.html

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/21/mo...ed-romney/

**evilolive**

Yeah I remember when I went they weren't scared of firing their members doomed

Nasty to think nobody is allowed to have an opinion in that church. Would that belief carry onto Romney himself?... only time will tell...

**Shakey1** · **Shakey1** Subscriber User ID: 112591 09-22-2012 02:56 PM **Posts: 11,986**

There's a difference between an Islamic 'fatwa' and Mormon 'excommunication' facepalm

**Only Fools and Horses** lop guest User ID: 122480 09-22-2012 03:03 PM

Shakey1 Wrote:

There's a difference between an Islamic 'fatwa' and Mormon 'excommunication'

Not as much as you think, apparently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatw%C4%81

Quote:A fatwa in the Islamic faith is a juristic ruling concerning Islamic law issued by an Islamic scholar.

Only Fools and Horses Wrote:

... the church officials informed him that they had scheduled a Sept. 30 excommunication “for apostasy.”

The Encyclopedia of Mormonism defines an apostate as someone who has “seriously contravened or ignored cardinal Church teachings.”... / snip

**SexualChocolate**

Shakey1 Wrote:

There's a difference between an Islamic 'fatwa' and Mormon 'excommunication'

not with these idiots. they see all religion one and the same.
excommunication does not end in death as far as I know

**The Ravioli** lop guest User ID: 89825 09-22-2012 03:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pXliDvcwgI

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 122480 09-22-2012 03:17 PM

SexualChocolate Wrote:

Shakey1 Wrote:
There's a difference between an Islamic 'fatwa' and Mormon 'excommunication'

not with these idiots. they see all religion one and the same.
excommunication does not end in death as far as I know

Fatwa basically means "ruling based on religious laws" (not necessary death); the same happened in David Twede's case.

Only Fools and Horses Wrote:

Not as much as you think, apparently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatw%C4%81

Quote:A fatwa in the Islamic faith is a juristic ruling concerning Islamic law issued by an Islamic scholar.

Only Fools and Horses Wrote:
... the church officials informed him that they had scheduled a Sept. 30 excommunication “for apostasy.”

The Encyclopedia of Mormonism defines an apostate as someone who has “seriously contravened or ignored cardinal Church teachings.”... / snip

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 09-22-2012 04:53 PM

Only Fools and Horses Wrote:

Mormon church threatens to excommunicate member who criticized Romney

A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints says that church leadership is on a witch hunt against him after he criticized Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

David Twede, a fifth-generation Mormon, told .. his bishop and three other church leaders in Orlando ordered him to “Cease and desist, Brother Twede” after they found discussions about Romney at the blog MormonThink.com. Twede said that he felt “attacked, cornered, and very anxious” as the church officials informed him that they had scheduled a Sept. 30 excommunication “for apostasy.”

The Encyclopedia of Mormonism defines an apostate as someone who has “seriously contravened or ignored cardinal Church teachings.”... / snip

Read more:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ritic.html

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/21/mo...ed-romney/

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**ButtonsAren'tToys**

this is perfect

more "church" consuming itself

I TOLD you that the Vatican would never allow Romney in the White House

(See that Jesuit thread that Shakey1 did)

**The Ravioli** lop guest User ID: 89825 09-22-2012 05:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rgepWg4rzw

**evilolive**

The Ravioli Wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rgepWg4rzw

Your LOP name just made me so much hungrier Scream1

**FreedomStands** · (This post was last modified: 09-22-2012 06:23 PM by FreedomStands.)

lol no muslim has the right to "excommunicate" that term comes from Catholicism. Mainstream Islam has no priests or hierarchy or anything so nobody can reall excommunicate a person, nor is a person allowed to bar a person from worship.

**Only Fools and Horses** lop guest User ID: 122682 09-22-2012 06:51 PM

FreedomStands Wrote:

lol no muslim has the right to "excommunicate" that term comes from Catholicism. Mainstream Islam has no priests or hierarchy or anything so nobody can reall excommunicate a person, nor is a person allowed to bar a person from worship.

If you under mainstream Muslims mean Sunnis (approx. 80% of all) you're right; they have no priests or hierarchy (I like that) - unlike Shiites. I'm not sure about Wahhabites

Of course "fatwa" was sarcasm - but not so far from the truth as some might believe.

**Only Fools and Horses** lop guest User ID: 122682 09-22-2012 06:58 PM

Only Fools and Horses Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
lol no muslim has the right to "excommunicate" that term comes from Catholicism. Mainstream Islam has no priests or hierarchy or anything so nobody can reall excommunicate a person, nor is a person allowed to bar a person from worship.

If you under mainstream Muslims mean Sunnis (approx. 80% of all) you're right; they have no priests or hierarchy (I like that) - unlike Shiites. I'm not sure about Wahhabites

Of course "fatwa" was sarcasm - but not so far from the truth as some might believe.

Besides, Sunni Muslims would not and could not excommunicate anyone because of his political view. I made an analogy between more radical Muslim denomination and Mormonism to make my point more clear.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 42391 09-22-2012 06:59 PM

They seek power of new HOLY Rome LDS style?