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i'd just like to elaborate on this a bit because, of course...

John 14

6, Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

12, Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

although he was the first, he most certainly wasn't the last. the immaculate conception was the supernatural birth of the son of God [see youtube.com/watch?v=0UR6YQ1PCVI] and the holy trinity is absolutely possible, as the divine fabric [see youtube.com/watch?v=8Q_GQqUg6Ts and/or youtube.com/watch?v=1_HrQVhgbeo] could easily form an avatar to experience His creation within. this does not, however, limit us to our current form

Or artificial insemination.

With hybrid dna.

not very immaculate if you ask me

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Or artificial insemination.

With hybrid dna.

not very immaculate if you ask me

heh. remember this was at a time of limited understanding. How else would you describe it if you didn't know there was something else involved?

C'mon. you're not a fool… the "gods" traveled about in fiery chariots. Yes gods. Plural. They physically interacted with the world.

Do we not today have the capacity to manipulate weather? Us little monkeys. Yes we do. what about disease? can we create plague? you know we can.

When you read the bible I think you're reading about technology from a different time. Possibly the future. Serious as a heart attack.

You know what the cargo cult is, right?

Quote:Ephesians 4:6 "one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."

just sayin  Wrote:

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not very immaculate if you ask me

heh. remember this was at a time of limited understanding. How else would you describe it if you didn't know there was something else involved?

C'mon. you're not a fool… the "gods" traveled about in fiery chariots. Yes gods. Plural. They physically interacted with the world.

Do we not today have the capacity to manipulate weather? Us little monkeys. Yes we do. what about disease? can we create plague? you know we can.

When you read the bible I think you're reading about technology from a different time. Possibly the future. Serious as a heart attack.

You know what the cargo cult is, right?

i'm with you, but believe it or not, the gods had their own God

Ephesians 4:6 "one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."

Psalm 82:1 "A psalm of Asaph. God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the gods"

Psalm 82:6 "I have said, Ye are gods [original hebrew: elohim]; and all of you are children of the most High."

read one chapter of this book for a bit of understanding

http://www.slideshare.net/sechariasitchi...rs-9963556

page 347, Endpaper - God, the Extraterrestrial

also, watch the video here [youtube.com/watch?v=0UR6YQ1PCVI]. a needle isn't the only means of nonsexual insemination, but i wouldn't exactly call it artificial if it's the Source of Being doing the magic

I don't know much about the Mormon religion (I know a little), but I would bet most Mormons worship God and Jesus within their own faith-structure. That being said, I believe there is the occult/Luciferian or Satanic element in all world religions and faiths, and this is in part due to the one religion goal of the New World Order and its false messiah.

What is the Luciferian element in Islam?

Declaring any "song" to evil to hear...is evil. Find alternative arguments to what disturbs you, never ever shut out an information resource.

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Declaring any "song" to evil to hear...is evil. Find alternative arguments to what disturbs you, never ever shut out an information resource.

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what song?

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Truth  Wrote:

Declaring any "song" to evil to hear...is evil. Find alternative arguments to what disturbs you, never ever shut out an information resource.

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what song?

your song, or my song. Appears there is no such thing as "our" song

link to image: http://apologista.files.wordpress.com/20...tagram.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKEccwCkGg

all republicans aren't satanists, either... but this is what you get when the wrong people take over. after that, it's only a matter of time before their influence affects the minds of those under their wings

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link to image: http://apologista.files.wordpress.com/20...tagram.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKEccwCkGg

all republicans aren't satanists, either... but this is what you get when the wrong people take over. after that, it's only a matter of time before their influence affects the minds of those under their wings

This fellows EXORCISM is exorstupid.
The "Bush Tax Cuts were simply how Reagan and Kennedy busted open the economy to create PROSPERITY.
Clinton did somewhat the same with Gingerich's bullying.
Obama's increasing capital gains is going to crash the stock market again... soon .... mark my words.
The increased capital gains will also stymy small biz which Obama has PURPOSELY DONE throughout his tenure.
ALL of Obama's government handouts and help for biz has been for the biggest of big biz.... up to and including helping the superbanks gobbleup the almost superbanks with mine and your monies.

When the Bush tax cuts came in I was doing realestate part time and more in the know than before.
TOTALLY spurred the economy with folks selling businesses and land and assets to move into starting new and bigger businesses.
With higher capital gains taxes risk/benefit just doesn't work out.... folks just sit on their assets and the economy stalls.... few realestate sales and few upstart businesses = few jobs created.

MONEY IS SPEECH is MEAN'T to limit the rich's influence on an ignorant American populace....of course liberals sell outs like John McCain circumvent that.
The idea that corporations are the problem is patently stupid.
The VAST MAJORITY of corporations are S corps used by self employed individuals who make well less than $250K per year.
The super rich use the cliche END CORPORATIONS AS PEOPLE to further oppress the small biz people.
Small biz people are the entrepeneurs... the JOB CREATORS in America.
They are also less likely to want BIG GOVERNMENT.... NO WONDER they want to supress them!

ENDING WARS is a smart thing.... problem is, Obama and Hillary have a half dozen or so wars going.. the Dims have started FAR MORE WARS than the Republicans in my lifetime.
Wars are for the super rich..... thus they continue no matter which party is in office.

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I think mormens are christians aren't they?

No, they aren't. They put Joseph Smith above Jesus and they worship him. They are definitely heavily rooted in the masons and pagan religions.

I don't need to read the link, I used to be one. Went through the Temple, the whole nine yards and when I finally went through the Temple, let me tell you I experienced what demons are! I left and never turned back.

They look so nice and neat on the outside, all a facade. But the thing is, many of them ARE great people, don't get me wrong. But nonetheless, it's not Christian and living in Utah for many years, being around it all, I saw the symbolism EVERYWHERE.