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**Michael Alan Keith**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Obama is a Mason too: A Ring Knocker: http://www.henrymakow.com/obama_a_presid...emaso.html

This has been around before. They used a model for that picture. It was not Obama himself.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 76806 05-05-2012 09:17 PM

Buster Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Buster Wrote:
I looked at the link here.

http://watch.pair.com/synarchy-6.html

It does not support your claim. While it does say that the person who authored the initiation was a mason, it does not say that it was based on a Masonic initiation.

Read it again, slowly this time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_Chi_Alpha
Lambda Chi Alpha (ΛΧΑ) is one of the largest men's secret general fraternities in North ... Zeta at the University of Michigan was founded, being the first chapter installed with the Mason initiation ritual.

http://www.halcyontemple.org/freemasonry...yon-lodge/
Lambda Chi Alpha is a university fraternity started by Freemasons in the early part of the 20th century. Their rituals and philosophy are very similar to that of Freemasonry due to their Masonic heritage.

“Ron Paul was initiated in the Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity at his alma mater, ... by 33º Mason and Worshipful Master of a Masonic Lodge, John E. Mason

rON pAUL IS a freemason:

“Ron Paul was initiated in the Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity at his alma mater, ... by 33º Mason and Worshipful Master of a Masonic Lodge, John E. Mason

Ron Paul joined a fraternity. That does not make him a Mason.

Why do you Obama supporters hate Freedom so much?

If you pledge and are initiated as a ring knocker Lambda Chi Alpha Freemason and you do not renounce and revoke swearing to their secret society then you are a Mason. But Ron Paul also went to Mason meeting
in Lake Jackson as well.

Ron Paul is a freemason

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87387 05-05-2012 09:28 PM

Buster Wrote:

Ron Paul joined a fraternity. That does not make him a Mason.

Why do you Obama supporters hate Freedom so much?

I do not think it is because they really have an opinion at all, this particular thread (when you look at any threads history) shows a set of maybe one or two individuals (bots or not) that are using a "brute force" attack to try and divide and conquer the thread, One can surmise to cause the threads topic being either too heated and locked, or to try and obfuscate the data to wear out an individuals stance on the topic matter..

Been noticing this a great deal lately in particular threads, and not just with forum sliding, I see names popping up and certain lop guest ID's dragging older threads, or generating new threads within a minute or two of each other, to push down "hot topics" that unite, rather then dissuade discussion..

I watched the particular ones lay out a web of information that is too close to home as a setup for those coming along to entrap them into a debate that can skew the thread from topic matter...

Pretty soon these individuals that float in and out of this forum, will begin to see the tactics stop working, and then it's going to get "personal" for them since they have a job to do, and can no longer get paid to do that job..

Healthy debate is one thing, but outright slander and low ball cheap shots is another thing entirely when it comes to the thread topic. (IMO)...

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 76806 05-05-2012 09:35 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Buster Wrote:
Ron Paul joined a fraternity. That does not make him a Mason.

Why do you Obama supporters hate Freedom so much?

I do not think it is because they really have an opinion at all, this particular thread (when you look at any threads history) shows a set of maybe one or two individuals (bots or not) that are using a "brute force" attack to try and divide and conquer the thread, One can surmise to cause the threads topic being either too heated and locked, or to try and obfuscate the data to wear out an individuals stance on the topic matter..

Been noticing this a great deal lately in particular threads, and not just with forum sliding, I see names popping up and certain lop guest ID's dragging older threads, or generating new threads within a minute or two of each other, to push down "hot topics" that unite, rather then dissuade discussion..

I watched the particular ones lay out a web of information that is too close to home as a setup for those coming along to entrap them into a debate that can skew the thread from topic matter...

Pretty soon these individuals that float in and out of this forum, will begin to see the tactics stop working, and then it's going to get "personal" for them since they have a job to do, and can no longer get paid to do that job..

Healthy debate is one thing, but outright slander and low ball cheap shots is another thing entirely when it comes to the thread topic. (IMO)...

Ron Paul is a 30 Year Establishment. Bilderberg Funded, Freemason Ring Knocker. How much more establishment can you get?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87387 05-05-2012 09:42 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Ron Paul is a 30 Year Establishment. Bilderberg Funded, Freemason Ring Knocker. How much more establishment can you get?

Thank you for proving my point about peoples intent.. (you just can't help yourself can you?... Jptdknpa

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**AMPAMPERSAND**

Ahriman Wrote:

Ron Paul himself would be more dangerous than the entire republican and democratic parties put together if anyone at all took all his rantings seriously.

He says a couple good things but jeez.... forget the 1800's, Paul wants us back in caves...

IMO.

The old money rules still and have always applied:

Don't spend more than you have

Don't borrow more than you can pay back

Don't expect something for nothing

Don't invest in something you don't understand

Don't forget to save

Don't expect prosperity until you have no debt

ETC

They are timeless as are the people in power who wish to impose tyranny you and enslave you, the people who thought it was their right to exploit you are still the same people who wanted to exploit you in the 1800's

Nor does the human recognition that we are endowed with certain ineilable rights....not by the government, but by our creator, and by virtue of our very existence we posses the power to not only govern ourselves but the power to throw off any government that would separate us from our endowed rights.

Time does not (should not) change need for rights liberty or prosperity, nor our need to be self governed.....Trust me OP, your not going to like 2020 unless we change things now, Ron Paul isn't perfect, but by virtue of the reaction he garners from the Powers that be, the monopolies, and the corporations.....he's one hell of a start.

Our current system (started in 1913, fully implemented in 1971) has reached it's logical conclusion after only 40 years, and in those 40 years we have gone from world class manufacturing, reinvesting excess production back into production, good jobs and pensions, to a finance corporatism that takes any and all excesses in the form of interest and rents, demands ever cheaper labor, and demands tax burdens be shifted to increasingly poor labor, with no hope of ever retiring or what little we manage to save for our retirement surviving inflation.

We threw off this system twice in our history with the First and Second National Bank of America for this very reason....Now it's time to throw off the Third National Bank Of America (Known as the Federal Reserve), We are in a race to the bottom (and just about there) because of this system, We must demand we return to Prosperity, A poor populace will never lead to a strong economy, only a wealthy populace will create prosperity.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 94767 05-05-2012 10:01 PM

AMPAMPERSAND Wrote:

we have gone from world class manufacturing, reinvesting excess production back into production, good jobs and pensions, to a finance corporatism that takes any and all excesses in the form of interest and rents, demands ever cheaper labor, and demands tax burdens be shifted to increasingly poor labor,

Dude, that's called capitalism
and last I heard,
Paul was a big proponent of it.

**AMPAMPERSAND**

LoP Guest Wrote:

AMPAMPERSAND Wrote:
we have gone from world class manufacturing, reinvesting excess production back into production, good jobs and pensions, to a finance corporatism that takes any and all excesses in the form of interest and rents, demands ever cheaper labor, and demands tax burdens be shifted to increasingly poor labor,

Dude, that's called capitalism
and last I heard,
Paul was a big proponent of it.

It's not capitalism, Capitalism cannot exist within a fiat currency, It's financial corporatism with wealth being unnaturally funneled to those whom produce nothing VIA inflation, debt, interest, taxes, and rents.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 14978 05-05-2012 10:09 PM

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58637 05-05-2012 10:32 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Yes.

And, yes, he has established himself. He keeps some pretty good company. That does not mean he is the 'establishment' that needs to be taken down. Ron Paul, for instance, can and will remove corporate charters, won't he? That will be a good thing.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58637 05-05-2012 10:33 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:

Yes.

And, yes, he has established himself. He keeps some pretty good company. That does not mean he is the 'establishment' that needs to be taken down. Ron Paul, for instance, can and will remove corporate charters, won't he? That will be a good thing.

I President...vote Paul, friends in Amerika.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58637 05-05-2012 10:33 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:

Yes.

And, yes, he has established himself. He keeps some pretty good company. That does not mean he is the 'establishment' that needs to be taken down. Ron Paul, for instance, can and will remove corporate charters, won't he? That will be a good thing.

If President...vote Paul, friends in Amerika.

Damn. Fixed.

**SEADOG**

Buster Wrote:

I like a lot of the things RP says. But I don't fully trust him. He could be a puppet just like all the rest.

But with Mommey and Obammy I have no doubts.

At worst Paul is the lesser of three evils. At best the leader who will restore freedom in America.

Well put!!

**UcDat**

SEADOG Wrote:

Buster Wrote:
I like a lot of the things RP says. But I don't fully trust him. He could be a puppet just like all the rest.

But with Mommey and Obammy I have no doubts.

At worst Paul is the lesser of three evils. At best the leader who will restore freedom in America.

Well put!!