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**King_David**

Like it or not we are all chained to the same beasts, none of us have the power to slay these beasts alone.

Some are not free, until all are free, there is no escape.

What is it that one could define as saving self, joining the Beasts?

Only a temporary solution, for those whom have low morals.

We have to rally round what is right and just, not really an easy thing to do. Most people are just far too well programed to see the truth.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 66760 04-03-2012 01:56 AM

i usually hate videos like this and just turn them on for background noise while surfing around other articles to see what they are, but every once in awhile some videos turn out to be pretty good, and this one turned out to be pretty good. not some preachy screaming voice and bad clips strung together with even worse music, but something i could actually watch, and want to watch till the end. thanks alot, now i have to go watch the other ones now instead of going to the newspaper comic strip site like i was going to do for awhile. Heartflowers

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 04-03-2012 01:59 AM

King_David Wrote:

Like it or not we are all chained to the same beasts, none of us have the power to slay these beasts alone.

Some are not free, until all are free, there is no escape.

What is it that one could define as saving self, joining the Beasts?

Only a temporary solution, for those whom have low morals.

We have to rally round what is right and just, not really an easy thing to do. Most people are just far too well programed to see the truth.

You don't have to slay the beasts, just stop giving them power over you and walk away.

We are all free if we want it, the only thing making you a prisoner is you.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87932 04-03-2012 02:01 AM

The Lucky AC Wrote:

King_David Wrote:
Like it or not we are all chained to the same beasts, none of us have the power to slay these beasts alone.

Some are not free, until all are free, there is no escape.

What is it that one could define as saving self, joining the Beasts?

Only a temporary solution, for those whom have low morals.

We have to rally round what is right and just, not really an easy thing to do. Most people are just far too well programed to see the truth.

You don't have to slay the beasts, just stop giving them power over you and walk away.

We are all free if we want it, the only thing making you a prisoner is you.

We've always been free. Cheer

**ZeroToad**

LoP Guest Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
King_David Wrote:
Like it or not we are all chained to the same beasts, none of us have the power to slay these beasts alone.

Some are not free, until all are free, there is no escape.

What is it that one could define as saving self, joining the Beasts?

Only a temporary solution, for those whom have low morals.

We have to rally round what is right and just, not really an easy thing to do. Most people are just far too well programed to see the truth.

You don't have to slay the beasts, just stop giving them power over you and walk away.

We are all free if we want it, the only thing making you a prisoner is you.

We've always been free.

Actually, I'm kNot free, I'm cheap.

Ribbit

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87934 04-03-2012 02:05 AM

Jesus is coming to save me.
I saw it in the Australian fireballs.

**Astrochik**

LoP Guest Wrote:

At this point I'm not sure that anyone else exists. I think this is some kind of test just for me to figure out. There is no question that whatever it is that I focus on comes into my life.

and that had also occurred to me, too...so am I your figment, or you mine, or is all one?

**Astrochik**

LoP Guest Wrote:

i usually hate videos like this and just turn them on for background noise while surfing around other articles to see what they are, but every once in awhile some videos turn out to be pretty good, and this one turned out to be pretty good. not some preachy screaming voice and bad clips strung together with even worse music, but something i could actually watch, and want to watch till the end. thanks alot, now i have to go watch the other ones now instead of going to the newspaper comic strip site like i was going to do for awhile.

chris duane's stuff is very watchable, listenable, and packs a lot of information into a compact absorbable package...

**Imagineer Laura nli** lop guest User ID: 12137 04-03-2012 03:15 AM

geminigirl Wrote:

Astrochik Wrote:
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucdT7949LFc&feature=colike

I would recommend the entire series to everyone...

it's easy to wait for someone to come save you & easy to blame others or an entire system for our failures. The truth is we need to take responsibility for our problems & that truth will set us free.

OK, suppose you take responsibility for all the problems in the world because you either did or didn't do or say something, how does that set you free?

I think the video is dead wrong because of the dead-end philosophy it promotes. It casts all responsibility on the wrong people and frees all those who shirked their responsibility, the people in positions of power.

It's is totally up to those people who have taken advantage of people and raised themselves up into positions of power on the backs of the people they oppressed/stepped on. Now they have to live up to that responsibility that goes with the power/money they have accumulated.

So if you are saying those oppressed/enslaved people have to work with no physical assets, no money/economy/jobs or basically the whole mess that those in power created by their selfishness and greed and somehow if we could just see it was all our own fault for trusting, relying or hoping for those ptb to create something better, that miraculously this realization that we have been so totally fracked over- will set us free.

The obvious lessons in that scenario are don't ever trust anyone with power or authority because they will abuse it to take advantage of you and capitalize on you for their own selfish gain. Then they will justify their lack of living up to responsibility by convincing people that it was their own fault for trusting and believing their was some social obligation or responsibility that was supposed to come with gaining power and authority.

It could be looked at like a big enslavement camp where the slaves have helped the slavemasters take over the world/land and extract its resources and now they want to set the slaves free with no compensation. The problem is the slavemasters own everything and demand payment so while the slaves may have freedom from contract work, they have been robbed of their homes and land to work for themselves and provide for themselves. If they want to even eat or have a roof over their heads they have to again sell themselves by the hour and become slaves to minimum or unreasonably low wages and debt or government subsidy to meet subsistence. How the frick is that being free?

I can envision how we could be free through self sufficient communities but without any land or money to start it it's not doable.

I think a reasonable thing would be for some projects like self sufficient communities to be supported in start-up by those who have benefited the most from the inflated real estate and housing industry, the banks. This could be one way for them to start making reparations to those they took advantage/capitalized on. Or, a less desirable option is for those people join together in a class action lawsuit to be compensated for the economic fraud they have been subject to by the banks.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 12137 04-03-2012 03:23 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
King_David Wrote:
Like it or not we are all chained to the same beasts, none of us have the power to slay these beasts alone.

Some are not free, until all are free, there is no escape.

What is it that one could define as saving self, joining the Beasts?

Only a temporary solution, for those whom have low morals.

We have to rally round what is right and just, not really an easy thing to do. Most people are just far too well programed to see the truth.

You don't have to slay the beasts, just stop giving them power over you and walk away.

We are all free if we want it, the only thing making you a prisoner is you.

We've always been free.

Where do you live? Do you own the land outright and do you have room for some others who may want to farm it and be free also?

Or have you discovered some glitch in the system where all your basic needs are free automatically?

Tell us how exactly you got to be free so that we can do it too.

chuckle

**geminigirl**

Imagineer Laura nli Wrote:

geminigirl Wrote:
Astrochik Wrote:
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucdT7949LFc&feature=colike

I would recommend the entire series to everyone...

it's easy to wait for someone to come save you & easy to blame others or an entire system for our failures. The truth is we need to take responsibility for our problems & that truth will set us free.

OK, suppose you take responsibility for all the problems in the world because you either did or didn't do or say something, how does that set you free?

I think the video is dead wrong because of the dead-end philosophy it promotes. It casts all responsibility on the wrong people and frees all those who shirked their responsibility, the people in positions of power.

It's is totally up to those people who have taken advantage of people and raised themselves up into positions of power on the backs of the people they oppressed/stepped on. Now they have to live up to that responsibility that goes with the power/money they have accumulated.

So if you are saying those oppressed/enslaved people have to work with no physical assets, no money/economy/jobs or basically the whole mess that those in power created by their selfishness and greed and somehow if we could just see it was all our own fault for trusting, relying or hoping for those ptb to create something better, that miraculously this realization that we have been so totally fracked over- will set us free.

The obvious lessons in that scenario are don't ever trust anyone with power or authority because they will abuse it to take advantage of you and capitalize on you for their own selfish gain. Then they will justify their lack of living up to responsibility by convincing people that it was their own fault for trusting and believing their was some social obligation or responsibility that was supposed to come with gaining power and authority.

It could be looked at like a big enslavement camp where the slaves have helped the slavemasters take over the world/land and extract its resources and now they want to set the slaves free with no compensation. The problem is the slavemasters own everything and demand payment so while the slaves may have freedom from contract work, they have been robbed of their homes and land to work for themselves and provide for themselves. If they want to even eat or have a roof over their heads they have to again sell themselves by the hour and become slaves to minimum or unreasonably low wages and debt or government subsidy to meet subsistence. How the frick is that being free?

I can envision how we could be free through self sufficient communities but without any land or money to start it it's not doable.

I think a reasonable thing would be for some projects like self sufficient communities to be supported in start-up by those who have benefited the most from the inflated real estate and housing industry, the banks. This could be one way for them to start making reparations to those they took advantage/capitalized on. Or, a less desirable option is for those people join together in a class action lawsuit to be compensated for the economic fraud they have been subject to by the banks.

There is no one to blame, but yourself for not putting solutions into action. If you feel you have found an answer that is doable it is up to you to make it happen. If each person focuses on the solutions & not who is to blame then we would be much further along than we are now. No one gets a free pass & remember there are far more slaves than masters. The masses have the power & it up to us to use it. Heartflowers

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67884 04-03-2012 03:40 AM

Towards the end of the video was a picture of a hand with a finger pointing at another figure and the voice said, "don't blame others". That hand with the finger pointing towards another, had three fingers pointing back at the accuser. This is what it is to blame another; three fingers are pointed back at you.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 12137 04-03-2012 03:40 AM

Notice the lack of any response to support the contention we are free.

I just saved you from being sucked in by this false delusion of having freedom when you are actually enslaved physically and they almost just enslaved you mentally also with their self-serving philosophy.

**Zardoz**

Victims need saving.

Co-creators keep on creating.

Waiting for someone to save you is the pathology.

Take action!!!!!

**geminigirl**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Towards the end of the video was a picture of a hand with a finger pointing at another figure and the voice said, "don't blame others". That hand with the finger pointing towards another, had three fingers pointing back at the accuser. This is what it is to blame another; three fingers are pointed back at you.

I hated when my parents said that to me, but darn it they were right. chuckle