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Nobody knows
Lonestar888
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08-05-2012 07:12 AM

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Post: #16
RE: Nobody knows
FinalTest.  Wrote:
~.~  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
Nobody knows.

Good Night.

seems evidence that it wasn't some sort of sick fantasy keeping me up all night last night


it's not exactly a gold star

but it's a image of the sorts of things i need for sanity


just a mere image of a mirror



A very very "average" person loves you. The nobody is that average in a paradoxical way. He is only great in his averageness. He has foundational truth that should have NEVER been elevated to ivory tower, esoteric and elite heights. The great and average man brings everything down to Earth. A very common level. The only true place great things can be used and appreciated on a global scale changing level. For no one is excluded in his understanding and vision. Absolutely no one. rich, poor, famous and infamous. No one is excluded.
Outdoorsman  Wrote:
It is better to be a messenger of God than God. Would anyone care to guess why?


i had a dream where i was told that saxon would interpret my vision of Angel to God and it would be very helpful to people so i asked him to interpret it.

I was thinking of it earlier and decided to share it here.


"ANGEL TO GOD
-by Lonestar
-explained by Saxon 777

In Heaven one day, amidst the angels and God, a question arose. God you are the creator of life and all is good in your deeds; but I am troubled.

Here I sit looking upon my fellow angels and I feel that we do not know how good you truly are.

We know only of your love and your guidance. But what if you should be angry with us or what if we become sad. Will it be an eternity of despair?

I ask…how can we know you truly unless we know you not?

777-This was the starting point in Heaven where all of God's children were immature, lacking a place to understand their Creator, as to know God is to know pain and suffering, as such was the very genesis of our being.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
My dear angel, are you troubled? Do I not comfort you now? What is it you are asking?

We know not of death dear God. We are eternal. I think we would understand love and you more if we were given the illusion of death.

777-And it's not really just the dying that pushes to maturity, but the pain of being without, the pain of living and the pain of loneliness which ultimately forges us all unto maturity.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
You know not what you ask. Death is painful. I would not like to see you in pain. I love you and care about you a great deal too much to see you die.

But God, you are the one who is in control. For sure we will not die. We will only be away from you O Lord, and we will be under the illusion of death.

For as soon as we perish, our eyes will be open to your love. And all pain will be taken away and we will know what it is to die.

777-True, but the very real risk to all of this is there nonetheless. This entire vision is much like the beginning of the Songs of Solomon where our Creator bemoans the departure of His/Her children unto the sleep of this realm.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
It hurts to be away from you my child. How will I benefit from this journey?

777-The big benefit to God is mature Children who develop the ability to Love Him/Her due their "walking a mile in their shoes" kind of thing. One cannot Truly Love another without KNOWING them, and the only way to Truly KNOW them is to experience what they have experienced. The difference in this is that of one being surrounded by toddlers or adults. Our Creator desires adults with whom "It" can share.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Our hearts are yours dear God, and we will let you see to their deepest depths. When we return your glory will be our praise.

But you know not of pain. It is a powerful influence that can alter your perspective.

Do we know nothing of pain? What is pain then? Is this pain; not knowing pain for eternity?

No.

How do we know?

I know and that is all you should be concerned with.

O God in all your glory and beauty may your guidance follow us on our journey and be as a light to our world.

A new heaven awaits us and you will be with us through our pain and through our love. How can it not work if it is done by you?

777-That's just it, "it" is not done by God, but rather by US, hence the reluctance of our Creator. There is much risk in all of this, not the least of which was the ensuing rebellion which took place.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Because I love you my child I shall let you go for a short while but I will be there for you if you need me. And I will be there for you if you wake up frightened of what you will see. For I am God and I have the power to create as well as the power to heal. But I am sad to tell you this last part.

You will not know me long. I will be a fleeting memory as you age in your world. And you will sleep until everyone is ready to wake up. You will be alone and away from me. But fear not, for I am here and will always be by your side. And when it is all over you will have the knowledge of life and death.

777-Not necessarily "everyone", but the required number to assist the rest. Many think of this as the 144,000.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
I shall call upon 1/3 of the angels and they will live in this world, and I shall call upon 1/3 of the angels and they will be there as my representatives to guide you on your journey. And the final 1/3 of the angels shall remain with me in heaven so I will not be lonely.

O thank you God of Gods and ruler of everything. We shall call our new Heaven earth and it will be good.

With that God put 1/3 of the angels to sleep and created the material world for them to live in. God was with them though they knew him not. As was necessary for them to grow and learn the meaning of love.

God created man and woman and placed the angels spirits within their bodies. And all of the angels were asleep waiting to be born and live to know death.

777-Yes, angels are both male and female thereby requiring both male and female bodies here.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
In Gods eyes it was an instant that had passed before all were back again, but he was sad to see that now that the angels knew death not all of them wanted to live. They wanted to go back again and experience death without knowledge of God.

777-This is actually due bitterness via the rebellion. Many of course blame that on God rather than taking responsibility for what THEY have done. As well, those of bitter Hearts, which our Creator calls "My bitter family", have organized themselves to be natural leaches to the rest of Creation, thereby side stepping the consequences for their evil actions.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
God was sad. He created a problem that has yet to be solved.

The problem being "how do you make it stop?" and "why would you want it to stop?"

777-The only way to make this stop is to once again put the consequences for behavior squarely back on the shoulders of the one behaving badly. As well, the top levels of the Kingdom MUST as needs be populated with those of spiritual maturity who can guarantee the unbroken rule of Love. That has ever been the "promise" of this very difficult age of rebellion.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Knowing nothing of what was good and what was bad we are born only knowing that God wants us to come home. And over time we loose sight of God.

Before we become an adult most of us already forget that he is here.

But God is good and he loves us. He would not leave us in our darkest hour and he will not hold us back from learning to love.

777-And learning to Love means allowing the very suffering that so many lay at the feet of our Creator. True Love shines bright amidst the great difficulty of suffering.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
The only sad thing is that what has happened is that we all want to be on the other side of the fence, eternally. Like a dog chasing its tail, we are lost in a moment of time.

777-Yes, many here want their cake and eat it too.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
O God, forgive me for setting in motion an eternity of life, death, love, pain, and all that is in between. For I know now that eternity is best spent with you.

You are our Lord and your love is just. I know you are with me where ever I go and that is comforting. But I am sad to know pain. Even if it is only for one life time that I experience it, it is an eternity for I know nothing else. All that I knew of you I have grown up and forgot. I only have my thoughts of why we are here and what is to come.

O child of mine, you are next to my heart forever even when we are apart"

777-And it is THIS that is the TRUE ILLUMINATION which is shown on the head of the One, that the "angel (or "angle") to God is SUFFERING, as no other "thing" can Truly deliver His/Her Children to their TRULY KNOWING Him/Her.

Without such our Creator would be forever surrounded by very intelligent Children who could never Truly understand the True depths of Real Love, nor their Parents.

Cool dream/vision.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcoMQNpx...e=youtu.be

rotatingheart.gif Saxon rest in peace. rotatingheart.gif

The memory of you is fresh in my heart
it hurts now knowing we are apart
love fills my heart in the parts that ache
but the pain lingers on to a point i can barely take
I loved you like a brother and a best friend
my heart is crying to hear from you again
I don't know what awaits on the other side
it is said that this life is just a ride
so if this is the ride what is the real thing?
something from the heart only being here can bring?
Saxon you were an inspiration to me
you always spoke the truth and it kept you free
even thou now i morn and weep
knowing you was a gift and a blessing i will always keep
dream big and rest in peace my dear friend
meet me on the other side when its my time that ends.

Lonestar888


Tissue

What is mind? No matter....
What is matter? Never mind...

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one

You can ignore reality but you can not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

The problem with my brain is that the left side has nothing right in it, and the right side has nothing left in it.
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Post: #17
RE: Nobody knows
We are all apart of this. There is nothing greater. Hugs
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Post: #18
RE: Nobody knows
FinalTest.  Wrote:
Something greater than me and all of us has our back. I can rest in that. That gives me comfort. Be it God or cosmos understanding does not matter. The only thing that matters is that the great everything is bigger than us all. Me and you. BUT we are still connected to that which is greater. That equals change. Victory. Victory over ignorance. Stepping into the world of pure knowledge and understanding.

Finally.

True finality only equals transition NOT death.



Different types of worlds holding consciousness. Could be very different than this world. But that doesn't make it any less relevant or real. We could be living in a great tree like monkeys. Or we could be pure energy beings. Or we could be existing as rocks and dirt and sunshine or whatever. Things we cant even imagine yet.

But a transition of worlds DOES come. But life continues. Consciousness continues.

Some will go to the Kingdom of where the lion lays down with the lamb. Once they are honest enough to understand they are either the lion or the lamb and doesnt matter. Peace must still be wanted. That is Heaven.

P.S.- i almost wrote "lamp" instead of "lamb". And you know what ? Maybe in some ways it would have been more accurate. For the lamp is the light and the way. Either way it works. And that is the beauty of it.
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08-05-2012 07:22 AM

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Post: #19
RE: Nobody knows
FinalTest.  Wrote:
FinalTest.  Wrote:
Something greater than me and all of us has our back. I can rest in that. That gives me comfort. Be it God or cosmos understanding does not matter. The only thing that matters is that the great everything is bigger than us all. Me and you. BUT we are still connected to that which is greater. That equals change. Victory. Victory over ignorance. Stepping into the world of pure knowledge and understanding.

Finally.

True finality only equals transition NOT death.



Different types of worlds holding consciousness. Could be very different than this world. But that doesn't make it any less relevant or real. We could be living in a great tree like monkeys. Or we could be pure energy beings. Or we could be existing as rocks and dirt and sunshine or whatever. Things we cant even imagine yet.

But a transition of worlds DOES come. But life continues. Consciousness continues.

Some will go to the Kingdom of where the lion lays down with the lamb. Once they are honest enough to understand they are either the lion or the lamb and doesnt matter. Peace must still be wanted. That is Heaven.

P.S.- i almost wrote "lamp" instead of "lamb". And you know what ? Maybe in some ways it would have been more accurate. For the lamp is the light and the way. Either way it works. And that is the beauty of it.

HeartflowersHugsHeartflowers

What is mind? No matter....
What is matter? Never mind...

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one

You can ignore reality but you can not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

The problem with my brain is that the left side has nothing right in it, and the right side has nothing left in it.
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Windy Soliloquy
User ID: 112828
08-05-2012 07:24 AM

Posts: 10,041



Post: #20
RE: Nobody knows
FinalTest.  Wrote:
~.~  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
Nobody knows.

Good Night.

seems evidence that it wasn't some sort of sick fantasy keeping me up all night last night


it's not exactly a gold star

but it's a image of the sorts of things i need for sanity


just a mere image of a mirror



A very very "average" person loves you. The nobody is that average in a paradoxical way. He is only great in his averageness. He has foundational truth that should have NEVER been elevated to ivory tower, esoteric and elite heights. The great and average man brings everything down to Earth. A very common level. The only true place great things can be used and appreciated on a global scale changing level. For no one is excluded in his understanding and vision. Absolutely no one. rich, poor, famous and infamous. No one is excluded.

if the only method of escape forced that path to be that high at times

the person walking it

is bitching about the climb
it's not like any of us wanted to be


but the story shook all the right people


i see it do what it does

and that's what it's supposed to


average person?


only because the blind do not recognize the shape of the soul

that they can not see

under the pills

in the daughter of zion


just as they could not see the scars


of her troubadour


there is a war above

more vicious than iraq


and it feeds and blazes

on everyone's blindness

no offense

we are anything BUT

average


shove my light brite up yo ass if you need to see for yourself
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FinalTest.
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08-05-2012 07:24 AM

 



Post: #21
RE: Nobody knows
Lonestar888  Wrote:
FinalTest.  Wrote:
~.~  Wrote:
seems evidence that it wasn't some sort of sick fantasy keeping me up all night last night


it's not exactly a gold star

but it's a image of the sorts of things i need for sanity


just a mere image of a mirror



A very very "average" person loves you. The nobody is that average in a paradoxical way. He is only great in his averageness. He has foundational truth that should have NEVER been elevated to ivory tower, esoteric and elite heights. The great and average man brings everything down to Earth. A very common level. The only true place great things can be used and appreciated on a global scale changing level. For no one is excluded in his understanding and vision. Absolutely no one. rich, poor, famous and infamous. No one is excluded.
Outdoorsman  Wrote:
It is better to be a messenger of God than God. Would anyone care to guess why?


i had a dream where i was told that saxon would interpret my vision of Angel to God and it would be very helpful to people so i asked him to interpret it.

I was thinking of it earlier and decided to share it here.


"ANGEL TO GOD
-by Lonestar
-explained by Saxon 777

In Heaven one day, amidst the angels and God, a question arose. God you are the creator of life and all is good in your deeds; but I am troubled.

Here I sit looking upon my fellow angels and I feel that we do not know how good you truly are.

We know only of your love and your guidance. But what if you should be angry with us or what if we become sad. Will it be an eternity of despair?

I ask…how can we know you truly unless we know you not?

777-This was the starting point in Heaven where all of God's children were immature, lacking a place to understand their Creator, as to know God is to know pain and suffering, as such was the very genesis of our being.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
My dear angel, are you troubled? Do I not comfort you now? What is it you are asking?

We know not of death dear God. We are eternal. I think we would understand love and you more if we were given the illusion of death.

777-And it's not really just the dying that pushes to maturity, but the pain of being without, the pain of living and the pain of loneliness which ultimately forges us all unto maturity.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
You know not what you ask. Death is painful. I would not like to see you in pain. I love you and care about you a great deal too much to see you die.

But God, you are the one who is in control. For sure we will not die. We will only be away from you O Lord, and we will be under the illusion of death.

For as soon as we perish, our eyes will be open to your love. And all pain will be taken away and we will know what it is to die.

777-True, but the very real risk to all of this is there nonetheless. This entire vision is much like the beginning of the Songs of Solomon where our Creator bemoans the departure of His/Her children unto the sleep of this realm.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
It hurts to be away from you my child. How will I benefit from this journey?

777-The big benefit to God is mature Children who develop the ability to Love Him/Her due their "walking a mile in their shoes" kind of thing. One cannot Truly Love another without KNOWING them, and the only way to Truly KNOW them is to experience what they have experienced. The difference in this is that of one being surrounded by toddlers or adults. Our Creator desires adults with whom "It" can share.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Our hearts are yours dear God, and we will let you see to their deepest depths. When we return your glory will be our praise.

But you know not of pain. It is a powerful influence that can alter your perspective.

Do we know nothing of pain? What is pain then? Is this pain; not knowing pain for eternity?

No.

How do we know?

I know and that is all you should be concerned with.

O God in all your glory and beauty may your guidance follow us on our journey and be as a light to our world.

A new heaven awaits us and you will be with us through our pain and through our love. How can it not work if it is done by you?

777-That's just it, "it" is not done by God, but rather by US, hence the reluctance of our Creator. There is much risk in all of this, not the least of which was the ensuing rebellion which took place.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Because I love you my child I shall let you go for a short while but I will be there for you if you need me. And I will be there for you if you wake up frightened of what you will see. For I am God and I have the power to create as well as the power to heal. But I am sad to tell you this last part.

You will not know me long. I will be a fleeting memory as you age in your world. And you will sleep until everyone is ready to wake up. You will be alone and away from me. But fear not, for I am here and will always be by your side. And when it is all over you will have the knowledge of life and death.

777-Not necessarily "everyone", but the required number to assist the rest. Many think of this as the 144,000.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
I shall call upon 1/3 of the angels and they will live in this world, and I shall call upon 1/3 of the angels and they will be there as my representatives to guide you on your journey. And the final 1/3 of the angels shall remain with me in heaven so I will not be lonely.

O thank you God of Gods and ruler of everything. We shall call our new Heaven earth and it will be good.

With that God put 1/3 of the angels to sleep and created the material world for them to live in. God was with them though they knew him not. As was necessary for them to grow and learn the meaning of love.

God created man and woman and placed the angels spirits within their bodies. And all of the angels were asleep waiting to be born and live to know death.

777-Yes, angels are both male and female thereby requiring both male and female bodies here.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
In Gods eyes it was an instant that had passed before all were back again, but he was sad to see that now that the angels knew death not all of them wanted to live. They wanted to go back again and experience death without knowledge of God.

777-This is actually due bitterness via the rebellion. Many of course blame that on God rather than taking responsibility for what THEY have done. As well, those of bitter Hearts, which our Creator calls "My bitter family", have organized themselves to be natural leaches to the rest of Creation, thereby side stepping the consequences for their evil actions.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
God was sad. He created a problem that has yet to be solved.

The problem being "how do you make it stop?" and "why would you want it to stop?"

777-The only way to make this stop is to once again put the consequences for behavior squarely back on the shoulders of the one behaving badly. As well, the top levels of the Kingdom MUST as needs be populated with those of spiritual maturity who can guarantee the unbroken rule of Love. That has ever been the "promise" of this very difficult age of rebellion.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Knowing nothing of what was good and what was bad we are born only knowing that God wants us to come home. And over time we loose sight of God.

Before we become an adult most of us already forget that he is here.

But God is good and he loves us. He would not leave us in our darkest hour and he will not hold us back from learning to love.

777-And learning to Love means allowing the very suffering that so many lay at the feet of our Creator. True Love shines bright amidst the great difficulty of suffering.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
The only sad thing is that what has happened is that we all want to be on the other side of the fence, eternally. Like a dog chasing its tail, we are lost in a moment of time.

777-Yes, many here want their cake and eat it too.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
O God, forgive me for setting in motion an eternity of life, death, love, pain, and all that is in between. For I know now that eternity is best spent with you.

You are our Lord and your love is just. I know you are with me where ever I go and that is comforting. But I am sad to know pain. Even if it is only for one life time that I experience it, it is an eternity for I know nothing else. All that I knew of you I have grown up and forgot. I only have my thoughts of why we are here and what is to come.

O child of mine, you are next to my heart forever even when we are apart"

777-And it is THIS that is the TRUE ILLUMINATION which is shown on the head of the One, that the "angel (or "angle") to God is SUFFERING, as no other "thing" can Truly deliver His/Her Children to their TRULY KNOWING Him/Her.

Without such our Creator would be forever surrounded by very intelligent Children who could never Truly understand the True depths of Real Love, nor their Parents.

Cool dream/vision.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcoMQNpx...e=youtu.be

rotatingheart.gif Saxon rest in peace. rotatingheart.gif

The memory of you is fresh in my heart
it hurts now knowing we are apart
love fills my heart in the parts that ache
but the pain lingers on to a point i can barely take
I loved you like a brother and a best friend
my heart is crying to hear from you again
I don't know what awaits on the other side
it is said that this life is just a ride
so if this is the ride what is the real thing?
something from the heart only being here can bring?
Saxon you were an inspiration to me
you always spoke the truth and it kept you free
even thou now i morn and weep
knowing you was a gift and a blessing i will always keep
dream big and rest in peace my dear friend
meet me on the other side when its my time that ends.

Lonestar888


Tissue



I must say. That was very good. Another interpretation upon our current situation in a world where life and death have absolute definitions. Or so it seems.
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08-05-2012 07:26 AM

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Post: #22
RE: Nobody knows
LoP Guest  Wrote:
But we are all God! Cheer They try to hide that memo...

we are the image of, and very small


like a mirror, we could claim to be a reflection of God


but until the reflections figure out how to crap an entire solar system into the real world


never claim to be what you are merely a reflection of


you will only insult the Source

i promise


learn your beautiful place as human

we are but lovely gnats on a grain of sand hurtling through a vast cosmos beyond mental comprehension in size alone
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Windy Soliloquy
User ID: 112828
08-05-2012 07:28 AM

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Post: #23
RE: Nobody knows
Lonestar888  Wrote:
FinalTest.  Wrote:
~.~  Wrote:
seems evidence that it wasn't some sort of sick fantasy keeping me up all night last night


it's not exactly a gold star

but it's a image of the sorts of things i need for sanity


just a mere image of a mirror



A very very "average" person loves you. The nobody is that average in a paradoxical way. He is only great in his averageness. He has foundational truth that should have NEVER been elevated to ivory tower, esoteric and elite heights. The great and average man brings everything down to Earth. A very common level. The only true place great things can be used and appreciated on a global scale changing level. For no one is excluded in his understanding and vision. Absolutely no one. rich, poor, famous and infamous. No one is excluded.
Outdoorsman  Wrote:
It is better to be a messenger of God than God. Would anyone care to guess why?


i had a dream where i was told that saxon would interpret my vision of Angel to God and it would be very helpful to people so i asked him to interpret it.

I was thinking of it earlier and decided to share it here.


"ANGEL TO GOD
-by Lonestar
-explained by Saxon 777

In Heaven one day, amidst the angels and God, a question arose. God you are the creator of life and all is good in your deeds; but I am troubled.

Here I sit looking upon my fellow angels and I feel that we do not know how good you truly are.

We know only of your love and your guidance. But what if you should be angry with us or what if we become sad. Will it be an eternity of despair?

I ask…how can we know you truly unless we know you not?

777-This was the starting point in Heaven where all of God's children were immature, lacking a place to understand their Creator, as to know God is to know pain and suffering, as such was the very genesis of our being.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
My dear angel, are you troubled? Do I not comfort you now? What is it you are asking?

We know not of death dear God. We are eternal. I think we would understand love and you more if we were given the illusion of death.

777-And it's not really just the dying that pushes to maturity, but the pain of being without, the pain of living and the pain of loneliness which ultimately forges us all unto maturity.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
You know not what you ask. Death is painful. I would not like to see you in pain. I love you and care about you a great deal too much to see you die.

But God, you are the one who is in control. For sure we will not die. We will only be away from you O Lord, and we will be under the illusion of death.

For as soon as we perish, our eyes will be open to your love. And all pain will be taken away and we will know what it is to die.

777-True, but the very real risk to all of this is there nonetheless. This entire vision is much like the beginning of the Songs of Solomon where our Creator bemoans the departure of His/Her children unto the sleep of this realm.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
It hurts to be away from you my child. How will I benefit from this journey?

777-The big benefit to God is mature Children who develop the ability to Love Him/Her due their "walking a mile in their shoes" kind of thing. One cannot Truly Love another without KNOWING them, and the only way to Truly KNOW them is to experience what they have experienced. The difference in this is that of one being surrounded by toddlers or adults. Our Creator desires adults with whom "It" can share.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Our hearts are yours dear God, and we will let you see to their deepest depths. When we return your glory will be our praise.

But you know not of pain. It is a powerful influence that can alter your perspective.

Do we know nothing of pain? What is pain then? Is this pain; not knowing pain for eternity?

No.

How do we know?

I know and that is all you should be concerned with.

O God in all your glory and beauty may your guidance follow us on our journey and be as a light to our world.

A new heaven awaits us and you will be with us through our pain and through our love. How can it not work if it is done by you?

777-That's just it, "it" is not done by God, but rather by US, hence the reluctance of our Creator. There is much risk in all of this, not the least of which was the ensuing rebellion which took place.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Because I love you my child I shall let you go for a short while but I will be there for you if you need me. And I will be there for you if you wake up frightened of what you will see. For I am God and I have the power to create as well as the power to heal. But I am sad to tell you this last part.

You will not know me long. I will be a fleeting memory as you age in your world. And you will sleep until everyone is ready to wake up. You will be alone and away from me. But fear not, for I am here and will always be by your side. And when it is all over you will have the knowledge of life and death.

777-Not necessarily "everyone", but the required number to assist the rest. Many think of this as the 144,000.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
I shall call upon 1/3 of the angels and they will live in this world, and I shall call upon 1/3 of the angels and they will be there as my representatives to guide you on your journey. And the final 1/3 of the angels shall remain with me in heaven so I will not be lonely.

O thank you God of Gods and ruler of everything. We shall call our new Heaven earth and it will be good.

With that God put 1/3 of the angels to sleep and created the material world for them to live in. God was with them though they knew him not. As was necessary for them to grow and learn the meaning of love.

God created man and woman and placed the angels spirits within their bodies. And all of the angels were asleep waiting to be born and live to know death.

777-Yes, angels are both male and female thereby requiring both male and female bodies here.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
In Gods eyes it was an instant that had passed before all were back again, but he was sad to see that now that the angels knew death not all of them wanted to live. They wanted to go back again and experience death without knowledge of God.

777-This is actually due bitterness via the rebellion. Many of course blame that on God rather than taking responsibility for what THEY have done. As well, those of bitter Hearts, which our Creator calls "My bitter family", have organized themselves to be natural leaches to the rest of Creation, thereby side stepping the consequences for their evil actions.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
God was sad. He created a problem that has yet to be solved.

The problem being "how do you make it stop?" and "why would you want it to stop?"

777-The only way to make this stop is to once again put the consequences for behavior squarely back on the shoulders of the one behaving badly. As well, the top levels of the Kingdom MUST as needs be populated with those of spiritual maturity who can guarantee the unbroken rule of Love. That has ever been the "promise" of this very difficult age of rebellion.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
Knowing nothing of what was good and what was bad we are born only knowing that God wants us to come home. And over time we loose sight of God.

Before we become an adult most of us already forget that he is here.

But God is good and he loves us. He would not leave us in our darkest hour and he will not hold us back from learning to love.

777-And learning to Love means allowing the very suffering that so many lay at the feet of our Creator. True Love shines bright amidst the great difficulty of suffering.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
The only sad thing is that what has happened is that we all want to be on the other side of the fence, eternally. Like a dog chasing its tail, we are lost in a moment of time.

777-Yes, many here want their cake and eat it too.

QUOTE (lonestar @ Jan 9 2010, 02:10 PM)
O God, forgive me for setting in motion an eternity of life, death, love, pain, and all that is in between. For I know now that eternity is best spent with you.

You are our Lord and your love is just. I know you are with me where ever I go and that is comforting. But I am sad to know pain. Even if it is only for one life time that I experience it, it is an eternity for I know nothing else. All that I knew of you I have grown up and forgot. I only have my thoughts of why we are here and what is to come.

O child of mine, you are next to my heart forever even when we are apart"

777-And it is THIS that is the TRUE ILLUMINATION which is shown on the head of the One, that the "angel (or "angle") to God is SUFFERING, as no other "thing" can Truly deliver His/Her Children to their TRULY KNOWING Him/Her.

Without such our Creator would be forever surrounded by very intelligent Children who could never Truly understand the True depths of Real Love, nor their Parents.

Cool dream/vision.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcoMQNpx...e=youtu.be

rotatingheart.gif Saxon rest in peace. rotatingheart.gif

The memory of you is fresh in my heart
it hurts now knowing we are apart
love fills my heart in the parts that ache
but the pain lingers on to a point i can barely take
I loved you like a brother and a best friend
my heart is crying to hear from you again
I don't know what awaits on the other side
it is said that this life is just a ride
so if this is the ride what is the real thing?
something from the heart only being here can bring?
Saxon you were an inspiration to me
you always spoke the truth and it kept you free
even thou now i morn and weep
knowing you was a gift and a blessing i will always keep
dream big and rest in peace my dear friend
meet me on the other side when its my time that ends.

Lonestar888


Tissue

this only confirmed my fears about saxon.
i will not say more.
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RE: Nobody knows
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seems evidence that it wasn't some sort of sick fantasy keeping me up all night last night


it's not exactly a gold star

but it's a image of the sorts of things i need for sanity


just a mere image of a mirror



A very very "average" person loves you. The nobody is that average in a paradoxical way. He is only great in his averageness. He has foundational truth that should have NEVER been elevated to ivory tower, esoteric and elite heights. The great and average man brings everything down to Earth. A very common level. The only true place great things can be used and appreciated on a global scale changing level. For no one is excluded in his understanding and vision. Absolutely no one. rich, poor, famous and infamous. No one is excluded.

if the only method of escape forced that path to be that high at times

the person walking it

is bitching about the climb
it's not like any of us wanted to be


but the story shook all the right people


i see it do what it does

and that's what it's supposed to


average person?


only because the blind do not recognize the shape of the soul

that they can not see

under the pills

in the daughter of zion


just as they could not see the scars


of her troubadour


there is a war above

more vicious than iraq


and it feeds and blazes

on everyone's blindness

no offense

we are anything BUT

average


shove my light brite up yo ass if you need to see for yourself



Maybe i chose my words wrong. Maybe i should have said our humble and modest selves holding infinite knowledge and cosmic and Godly knowledge as one would hold a bag of groceries. That is what i believe we should do as humble yet strong human beings gifted with the knowledge of life aka everything. It should be childs play. Or at least that easy. It should be that innocent and pure. Not mired down with boastfulness.

I must be the Good Archie Bunker (not the bad one) in the chair of truth and righteousness.

My love is an inferno of exploding fire but it is also a nice walk in the park on a nice day. It must exist as both. It must be controlled.
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RE: Nobody knows
sounds good
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Post: #26
RE: Nobody knows
At some point it will be out of the hands of the nobody and in the hands of everyone and God aka cosmos aka universe. Whatever. Nobody and everyone else will all be in the same boat. At some point.

What the nobody knows is what everyone else will find out. It has always been like that.

In some ways it is an absolute beautiful thing to have no choice.
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RE: Nobody knows
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At some point it will be out of the hands of the nobody and in the hands of everyone and God aka cosmos aka universe. Whatever. Nobody and everyone else will all be in the same boat. At some point.

What the nobody knows is what everyone else will find out. It has always been like that.

In some ways it is an absolute beautiful thing to have no choice.

true story

except that we're always in and have been in


the same ship
nobody noticed
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RE: Nobody knows
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But we are all God! Cheer They try to hide that memo...

we are the image of, and very small


like a mirror, we could claim to be a reflection of God


but until the reflections figure out how to crap an entire solar system into the real world


never claim to be what you are merely a reflection of


you will only insult the Source

i promise


learn your beautiful place as human

we are but lovely gnats on a grain of sand hurtling through a vast cosmos beyond mental comprehension in size alone

We are all the source. We are the Universe. We are God, don't you see?
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RE: Nobody knows
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But we are all God! Cheer They try to hide that memo...

we are the image of, and very small


like a mirror, we could claim to be a reflection of God


but until the reflections figure out how to crap an entire solar system into the real world


never claim to be what you are merely a reflection of


you will only insult the Source

i promise


learn your beautiful place as human

we are but lovely gnats on a grain of sand hurtling through a vast cosmos beyond mental comprehension in size alone

We are all the source. We are the Universe. We are God, don't you see?
we are the reflection of

i'm sorry you don't see the blatant pride dripping from all over that statement

and i guess nobody told you pride was a deadly sin, because subtly it blind us from the most obvious disastrous postures of heart to stand on
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RE: Nobody knows
we are the reflection of
and nothing more
unless you can make another galaxy to live in

don't every consider yourself God
you are only an image, and an echo

barely a vapor
to what the Source truly is

don't even consider yourself in the same league as the Source...
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