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Nukes, Lost, Stolen and “Misplaced” Now “in Play”
Kanaima
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11-30-2012 06:54 PM

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Nukes, Lost, Stolen and “Misplaced” Now “in Play”
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Quote:As early as 1990, three South African nuclear weapons, purchased by Britain, three out of ten manufactured at the Armscorp Pelindaba facility, were stolen. The purchase of the weapons was authorized by Prime Minster Thatcher and handed by Dr. David Kelly, the murdered weapons scientist, and a young assistant, David Cameron, currently Prime Minister of Britain. False reports that Iraq had stolen these weapons made up the real “secret brief” used to justify the invasion of Iraq. Only later, in 2009, when one of these weapons was exploded by North Korea, did it become clear that there was an open market for nukes and that some of the players were considered “friends” of Britain, France and the US.In 1991, the US lost three more nuclear weapons in an air crash off Somalia, weapons believed to have been recovered and marketed by former South African Defense officials.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/30/...ag-terror/

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SlowLoris
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11-30-2012 07:42 PM

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RE: Nukes, Lost, Stolen and “Misplaced” Now “in Play”
I just don't know what to believe any more.

Is this for real and should we be worried, or is this false and they hope they can scare us into deer in the head light inaction?

Should we be Scream1 Hiding

Or should we be Protest Crdbatgc

Or is this the time for Iqbsngdi Iofbmjlb

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11-30-2012 07:58 PM

 



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RE: Nukes, Lost, Stolen and “Misplaced” Now “in Play”
When I read the OP and saw it was from Gordon Duff I remembered a post I made a long time ago on this subject, so I googled until I found it.


I figure since this information was from him also it would lend some contextual backstory not only to the subject in the OP, but would also be helpful in deciding how credible the issues regarding the information in the OP might be.

Here it is...

I made this post way back on 05-24-2011

RAW INTEL

In Israel: Nasty stuff is coming out of Israel that Benjamin Netanyahu is facing assassination. This is from real intelligence community sources, not internet conspiracy chatter. We are told Ehud Barak, Israel’s Defense Minister, is targeted also. No explanations or “hard sell” with this. Netanyahu would not be targeted unless his “usefulness” to globalist elements was seen as at an end.

From the UK: Dr. David Kelly, the WMD specialist whose murder was originally passed off as a suicide is causing more controversy. The investigation is looking at an American based “hit squad” working with the JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) under former Vice President Dick Cheney as being responsible for Dr. Kelly’s murder. Kelly was the whistleblower, not just on the phony intelligence on Saddam’s WMD’s but on 3 missing nuclear weapons that Britain had “misplaced,” now said to be a legal question that Tony Blair has been confronted with.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/22/...-the-crap/

THE HUNT FOR THE MISSING NUKES AND THOSE THAT COVERED IT UP
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/30/...r-weapons/
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Dissonant Cog
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11-30-2012 08:21 PM

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Bump
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Adveser
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11-30-2012 08:25 PM

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Fearmongering. Nukes take a long time to make and last for only a short time.

And where are they now?
The little children of Stonehenge
And what would they say to us?
If we were here... tonight
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Adveser  Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:25 PM)
Fearmongering. Nukes take a long time to make and last for only a short time.

Do you have a credible source on the scientific and technical aspects of the subject?

I recollect reading some time ago that the material used in making nuclear weapons will degrade over a period of time, but I recall that period of time is quite a number of years.
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RE: Nukes, Lost, Stolen and “Misplaced” Now “in Play”
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:51 PM)
Adveser  Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:25 PM)
Fearmongering. Nukes take a long time to make and last for only a short time.

Do you have a credible source on the scientific and technical aspects of the subject?

I recollect reading some time ago that the material used in making nuclear weapons will degrade over a period of time, but I recall that period of time is quite a number of years.

Out Dated Plutonium based hydrogen bombs are unstable and require regular servicing to replace the tritium gas necessary to trigger the second stage.

Aging hydrogen bombs are useless unless “recharged” every seven years, something only a nuclear state is capable of. However, they can be used for weapons such as the August 18, 2006 North Korean plutonium bomb that failed.
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RE: Nukes, Lost, Stolen and “Misplaced” Now “in Play”
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-30-2012 09:45 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:51 PM)
Adveser  Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:25 PM)
Fearmongering. Nukes take a long time to make and last for only a short time.

Do you have a credible source on the scientific and technical aspects of the subject?

I recollect reading some time ago that the material used in making nuclear weapons will degrade over a period of time, but I recall that period of time is quite a number of years.

Out Dated Plutonium based hydrogen bombs are unstable and require regular servicing to replace the tritium gas necessary to trigger the second stage.

Aging hydrogen bombs are useless unless “recharged” every seven years, something only a nuclear state is capable of. However, they can be used for weapons such as the August 18, 2006 North Korean plutonium bomb that failed.

Furthermore with a proper triggering device, even an aging W69 warhead could be converted from its thermonuclear state to a configuration similar to the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, but much more powerful.
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This was pinned yesterday, Earthquake Predictor...
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Threads

FULL MOVIE Nuclear War

Threads is a 1984 BBC television play depicting the effects of a nuclear war on the United Kingdom and its aftermath. Written by Barry Hines and directed by Mick Jackson, Threads was filmed in late 1983 and early 1984. The premise of Threads was to hypothesise the effects of a nuclear war on the United Kingdom after an exchange between the Soviet Union and the United States escalates to include the UK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQo0BQM3OlQ
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pauldamo
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11-30-2012 10:50 PM

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have learned to take veterans today with tongue in cheek,some of their stories and images have just been so fake that it discredits the whole site,just another sorcha fail in the making.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-30-2012 09:45 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:51 PM)
Adveser  Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:25 PM)
Fearmongering. Nukes take a long time to make and last for only a short time.

Do you have a credible source on the scientific and technical aspects of the subject?

I recollect reading some time ago that the material used in making nuclear weapons will degrade over a period of time, but I recall that period of time is quite a number of years.

Out Dated Plutonium based hydrogen bombs are unstable and require regular servicing to replace the tritium gas necessary to trigger the second stage.

Aging hydrogen bombs are useless unless “recharged” every seven years, something only a nuclear state is capable of. However, they can be used for weapons such as the August 18, 2006 North Korean plutonium bomb that failed.

Yeah, that's what I read. I seem to recall it taking seven years to build the thing to begin with and requiring constant enriching of uranium or plutonium to keep them working. It was about three years ago when I looked into this, so the details are fuzzy. My reaction to whatever I read was that Iran or any other country that "hopes" to build a bomb would be unlikely to do so.

And where are they now?
The little children of Stonehenge
And what would they say to us?
If we were here... tonight
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pauldamo  Wrote: (11-30-2012 10:50 PM)
have learned to take veterans today with tongue in cheek,some of their stories and images have just been so fake that it discredits the whole site,just another sorcha fail in the making.

While I admitt it is very easy to think that I have to say after as many years as I have been looking into the geopolitical goings on in the world I have come to a definate conclusion that the mainstream world view is a complete and utter delusion fabricated and then foisted upon the world with sophisticated brainwashing techniques.

There really is such a thing a "Normalcy Bias" and that is why I have to leave room for a very real possibility that Duff is on the right trail. While I won't go so far as to say I believe Duff and Veterans Today and do in fact regard his reports with a healthy degree of skepticism I cannot disregard it.

Your suggestion that he is like sorcha fail is a bad assessment of his work. He much more closely fits the mold of Christopher Story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Story
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SlowLoris
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http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2012/05/13...t-control/

We Are Going To Be Nuked
May 2, 2012, Submitted by: Ken (Admin)

joel-skousen-warns-of-nuclear-war

…says Joel Skousen interviewed recently by John Wells on Coast-to-Coast-AM. Joel, a political scientist specializing in the philosophy of law and Constitutional theory, has been an expert in the field for decades, and believes we still have time before the inevitable day when the major cities of the US will be nuked.

Joel espouses a strong message for sure, but perhaps one that we should not overlook while being open minded to the possibilities of our uncertain future.

“We have time” he says, but how much time? He discusses various preconditions, some of which could present themselves within several years. However he believes with apparent 90% certainty that this will come to pass within 10 years, and quite possibly sooner.

He, and many others including yours-truly, believes there is a globalist agenda afoot, and has been for some time. Not a NATO-type agenda, but a darker globalist militarized New-World-Order agenda. One where ‘they’ want to force Americans (and the rest of the West) into… a new world government.

Listening to the 2 hour interview was fascinating. The man clearly is intelligent and has a unique ability to observe the many events going on around us (and those that have already occurred historically) and tie it all together in a spider web that all comes together in the middle, and explain it in such a way that makes sense – if you’re open to the concept of this conspiracy.

I couldn’t possibly summarize it properly without several thousand words, but my takeaway from the interview was his strong conviction that China will ultimately do us in, after an alliance with Russia (and China) goes sour. He does not believe that an upcoming war with Iran will lead to WW3, but instead believes that it will be sometime afterward when China has developed more of a blue water navy (China is actively building aircraft carriers as we speak).

My own observation of the relationship between Russia and China is that they are indeed aligned in many areas today, particularly when it comes to averting the dollar and transacting or seeking solutions to transact in currencies other than the dollar (a.k.a. the ‘BRIC’ nations – Brazil, Russia, India, China). In fact, the BRIC’s are actively seeking their own alternative to the SWIFT system of electronic banking (look it up).

The Chinese have a predatory agenda. They have always historically despised the West. China apparently has built over 3,000 “huge” bunker systems while at the same time the US gov’t has also built and is building underground bases and bunkers (according to Skousen). The elites in the US and elsewhere are having bunkers built, as though they know what’s coming…

Skousen says “Not everyone dies in a nuclear war”. This is true, although everyone dies in the targeted cities. He does not reveal the names of all the cities that he believes will be targeted, but he did conversationally reveal the following during his interview… San Diego, Omaha, Washington DC, Seattle, Jacksonville, and Colorado Springs. A logical thinking person will know that pretty much any major city will be targeted, and there are quite a number more that we could add to the list (I’m sure you can figure it out).

Most of the radiation from a nuclear blast target zone dissipates in weeks to a month (do your own due-diligence here), at which time our ‘leaders’ will come out of their bunkers, the military having been neutered/destroyed due to the preemptive strike.

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/current-ev...-be-nuked/

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pauldamo  Wrote: (11-30-2012 10:50 PM)
have learned to take veterans today with tongue in cheek,some of their stories and images have just been so fake that it discredits the whole site,just another sorcha fail in the making.

Duff admitted stretching the truth recently.

That's unfortunate and inexcusable(good he admitted it, inexcusable he did it.) Anything truthful he reports now is worse than worthless.

Worse because if he's doing it maliciously(have to assume he is) he can discredit something that's TRUE by reporting on it.

At least taint it.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Nationalize monetary policy at the FED, reinstate Greenbacks.
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