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OBAMACARE HAS RUINED MY LIFE
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10-04-2013 06:42 AM

 



Post: #16
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:37 AM)
No joke just say you are a muslim you dont have to pay, not even the fine.

should i dye my skin brown and start learning spanish
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10-04-2013 06:43 AM

 



Post: #17
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:34 AM)
free healthcare for all illegals and huge penalties for real americans if they do not pay up...WTF is going on

I am actually reading the hr3200, haven't finished it, and the penalty is cheaper than the health care for the first few years.

Illegals are not covered by ACA, and it's not free, it's in there between pages 125-175.
(They do say that illegals accessing ER rooms for health care will not be used against them under this mandate, however.)

I mean, that's if I am reading the right thing and it hasn't changed once again.
I pulled this straight from the thomas.gov website, or whatever the site is.

What the US basically did is they made someone a position in the gov to set insurance rates based on area and everyone they assume would be buying in. That person probably shook hands with the insurance companies at some lunch date because insurers, privately, are raising their prices to ACA prices and switching their plans to look a lot like ACA. The government also raised the rates in order to pay for their own administration costs because of the ACA. So, we were paying for this shit under the original problems of past health care, now we have two of them. WTFF.

My insurance went up almost triple as well, and all my copays cost more than double. Don't get me started on prescription drugs and the fact that I won't have dental vision under the ACA.

But, regardless, this is obviously what the d's wanted; more government jobs, the poor being taken care of while the middle class get's hammered--once again.

Neither party gives a shit about the middle class. None of them.
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10-04-2013 06:45 AM

 



Post: #18
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:41 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:39 AM)
I can only conclude that the purpose of the plan is to destroy what's left of this country.

Well that and the Biggert-Waters Act.
That new legislation will cause many many homeowners to lose their homes when they can't pay the HOME insurance bill for Fema Flood policies that are to be mandated.

Funny how INSURANCE is the selected means to the end.

I think you and I are the only ones who are aware that they're redrawing the flood maps and dropping federal subsidies. everyone else is asleep at the switch.
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10-04-2013 06:45 AM

 



Post: #19
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Bill clinton signed a law when he was in office you then were paying $1000 per year tax to cover uninsured patients... now you are paying $2500. per year tax for uninsured Patients...


Welcome to communism...
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10-04-2013 06:45 AM

 



Post: #20
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That's what it's there for.

They don't give a f*#k about you.

If they can't depopulate with vaccines and poison, they are going to make us mad enough to start killing each other and if that doesn't work they are going to nuke us.

They want you to be poor, homeless, sick, and dead sooner rather than later.

They are unholy, evil, unrepentant humans who have knowingly sold out to the NWO and fallen angels.

They knew what they are doing. They do not care.
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10-04-2013 06:47 AM

 



Post: #21
OBAMACARE HAS RUINED MY LIFE
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:39 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:29 AM)
A law that does not effect you, but destroys the lives and the future of millions.

I am 21 years old and in college with a part time job. Last year I was paying $45 dollar a month for my insurance. ObamaCare wiped that plan out is what I was told by my insurance carrier. They told me I qualified for cheaper coverage this year from ObamaCare. The same plan this year went up almost 400% to $192 because of ObamaCare. ObamaCare wants me to pay $175. Whoopdeedoo a whole $17 cheaper after quadruppling my monthly premium.

This Unaffordable Healthcare plan that my part time job cannot afford unless I let them repossess my car, or I live on the street has these insanely high deductables and a 30% copay. These insane deductions and technicalities in the new law would see me bankrupt if I ever got sick.

Any property I ever try to own will have an IRS lien attached to it for outstanding balances from deductables I can't afford to pay. Never will I see an income tax refund for the rest of my life as it is withheld by the IRS to be paid towards the IRS debt accrued from my unpaid deductables.

No leaving the family home to the kids since the government will take it to pay the insane medical deductable costs that ObamaCare does not cover that accrued over my lifetime that cannot be gotten rid of in a bankruptcy. I would be a fool to ever buy a house under Obamacare. It trumps your last will and testiment.

If I refuse ObamaCare they take away my drivers licence and confiscate any cash I might ever have in a bank account with no warning and charge me a penalty fee for not having insurance that could eventually increase to $4,000 a year and use that debt to put a lien on any property I might ever try to own, or confiscate any money in a bank account that I have.

I was born into slavery. You older people were NEVER subjected to this kind of tyranny, or insanity. I am healthy; 21 years old and could completely do without healthcare, but I paid my $45 dollars a year anyway because that was affordable.

Obamacare is an Unaffordable plan. You older folks who are retired, or work for government (state, city, or federal) are grandfathered in with your Medicare and Federal health insurance without any of these punitive IRS harrassment. You people all get exemptions by default since you do not have to take Obamacare.

What a crock of bull.

I guess I should leave the country and just let the illegals take it over since they get free medical care and don't have to pay ObamaCare premiums, or become harrassed by the IRS when they buy their homes, or open a bank account here even though they are not even a citizen.

Er, I feel you. But, I don't understand what you mean by IRS lien for unpaid deductibles.

The deductibles would have been paid when you went to see a doctor.

Not if I get in a wreck and am ambulanced to the hospital, or any number of other major life threatening conditions people wind up in the hospital for.

One of my family members had two hospitalizations last year when he almost died.

The first bill was $28,000 and the second more serious that required ICU and intubation was $80,000

30% of $100,000 is $30,000

If you own a house and can't afford to pay the deductable there goes your equity if you have any, or ever have any.

Never in history has a person been able to lose their home, or have their cash confiscated from a bank account to pay a medical bill.

You could make arrangements, or haggle with them to drastically reduce the cost for a smaller lump sum payoff. Hospitals would always work with you because the alternative was sending it to a collection agency and getting maybe .10 cents on the dollar..
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10-04-2013 06:47 AM

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Post: #22
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:39 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:29 AM)
A law that does not effect you, but destroys the lives and the future of millions.

I am 21 years old and in college with a part time job. Last year I was paying $45 dollar a month for my insurance. ObamaCare wiped that plan out is what I was told by my insurance carrier. They told me I qualified for cheaper coverage this year from ObamaCare. The same plan this year went up almost 400% to $192 because of ObamaCare. ObamaCare wants me to pay $175. Whoopdeedoo a whole $17 cheaper after quadruppling my monthly premium.

This Unaffordable Healthcare plan that my part time job cannot afford unless I let them repossess my car, or I live on the street has these insanely high deductables and a 30% copay. These insane deductions and technicalities in the new law would see me bankrupt if I ever got sick.

Any property I ever try to own will have an IRS lien attached to it for outstanding balances from deductables I can't afford to pay. Never will I see an income tax refund for the rest of my life as it is withheld by the IRS to be paid towards the IRS debt accrued from my unpaid deductables.

No leaving the family home to the kids since the government will take it to pay the insane medical deductable costs that ObamaCare does not cover that accrued over my lifetime that cannot be gotten rid of in a bankruptcy. I would be a fool to ever buy a house under Obamacare. It trumps your last will and testiment.

If I refuse ObamaCare they take away my drivers licence and confiscate any cash I might ever have in a bank account with no warning and charge me a penalty fee for not having insurance that could eventually increase to $4,000 a year and use that debt to put a lien on any property I might ever try to own, or confiscate any money in a bank account that I have.

I was born into slavery. You older people were NEVER subjected to this kind of tyranny, or insanity. I am healthy; 21 years old and could completely do without healthcare, but I paid my $45 dollars a year anyway because that was affordable.

Obamacare is an Unaffordable plan. You older folks who are retired, or work for government (state, city, or federal) are grandfathered in with your Medicare and Federal health insurance without any of these punitive IRS harrassment. You people all get exemptions by default since you do not have to take Obamacare.

What a crock of bull.

I guess I should leave the country and just let the illegals take it over since they get free medical care and don't have to pay ObamaCare premiums, or become harrassed by the IRS when they buy their homes, or open a bank account here even though they are not even a citizen.

Er, I feel you. But, I don't understand what you mean by IRS lien for unpaid deductibles.
The deductibles would have been paid when you went to see a doctor.
Or if you couldn't afford it. You would forgo healthcare for your issue.
Meaning the policy you are raked over the coals to pay month after month don't mean or pay diddly. What would happen is you will pay the premiums and NEVER make a claim. That is what they want.
That is your purpose in their plan. To fund someone else's actual health care bills, tests, hospitalizations, prescriptions, etc.


WOW and they call me a government paid shill and troll:

"I was born into slavery. You older people were NEVER subjected to this kind of tyranny, or insanity. I am healthy; 21 years old and could completely do without healthcare, but I paid my $45 dollars a year anyway because that was affordable."

Ok... really now,... seriously,.... who among you LOP'ers,... EVER! heard of a health care plan at $45.00 a month? Even for 21 year olds?
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10-04-2013 06:48 AM

 



Post: #23
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come become a canadian citizen

WE HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL

enjoy you're freight trains and death camps
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10-04-2013 06:48 AM

 



Post: #24
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:35 AM)
JIF  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:34 AM)
Go get a job as a Navigator to sign people up for ObamaCare. It is a $20 an hour job with bonuses and healthcare.

sounds like a cult job

Lmao

Jhikpghf

I'd prefer to keep my soul.
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Post: #25
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Here is your future!

National medical debt... look at obamacare and it only just started..
those are in trillions for those of you who cannot count.


Medicare Unfunded Liability $80,288,795,902,165.47
Prescription Drug Unfunded Liability $20,179,836,717,602.71
National Healthcare Unfunded Liability $9,292,951,901,305.03
Total US Unfunded Liabilities Per Person
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Post: #26
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He Man  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:47 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:39 AM)
Er, I feel you. But, I don't understand what you mean by IRS lien for unpaid deductibles.
The deductibles would have been paid when you went to see a doctor.
Or if you couldn't afford it. You would forgo healthcare for your issue.
Meaning the policy you are raked over the coals to pay month after month don't mean or pay diddly. What would happen is you will pay the premiums and NEVER make a claim. That is what they want.
That is your purpose in their plan. To fund someone else's actual health care bills, tests, hospitalizations, prescriptions, etc.


WOW and they call me a government paid shill and troll:

"I was born into slavery. You older people were NEVER subjected to this kind of tyranny, or insanity. I am healthy; 21 years old and could completely do without healthcare, but I paid my $45 dollars a year anyway because that was affordable."

Ok... really now,... seriously,.... who among you LOP'ers,... EVER! heard of a health care plan at $45.00 a month? Even for 21 year olds?

United heath care.. that is what i was paying... but it has very limited coverage
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Ok, tired of this BS now!
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10-04-2013 06:54 AM

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OP, we feel your pain. But you have it wrong with older people with existing health issues. Many of us pay premiums that would knock your socks off. Being older and sick is a financial curse.
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10-04-2013 06:55 AM

 



Post: #29
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people want to call obama a puppet and absorb him from any blame in anything, however it is important to know that tho he is a puppet he is also the most valuable puppet tptb have ever had. this is because he can get bills signed and keep evryone asleep. go ahead keep blaming bush and absorbing away any blame from the master con man barry obama, la la la
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10-04-2013 06:58 AM

 



Post: #30
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-04-2013 06:45 AM)
That's what it's there for.

They don't give a f*ck about you.

If they can't depopulate with vaccines and poison, they are going to make us mad enough to start killing each other and if that doesn't work they are going to nuke us.

They want you to be poor, homeless, sick, and dead sooner rather than later.

They are unholy, evil, unrepentant humans who have knowingly sold out to the NWO and fallen angels.

They knew what they are doing. They do not care.

yes, its all about money from the earths resources
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