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Obama care--is this true?
dolphin
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RE: Obama care--is this true?
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Sunny  Wrote: (04-16-2011 08:16 PM)
I just got this in an e-mail


Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number

THE CARE BILL HB 3200


JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.
Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200
Please read this........ especially the reference to pages 58 & 59


JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patients age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."

- Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls, Texas

All ofthe above should give you the ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

Sounds About Right.

I seem to recall these things were exposed early on and ignored.

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Post: #17
RE: Obama care--is this true?
Do what I did...research it yourself. It's actually old news.

Popcorn
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yep it's true. do your own reseach. Stop watching tv.
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bobnightman
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Sunny
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-16-2011 09:45 PM)
Do what I did...research it yourself. It's actually old news.

Popcorn

I did a little research and what I found was several reports stating it was some old amendments that were thrown out.

What scares me is how anything this ridiculous got thrown in in the first place.
Were they really thrown out, or replaced by other wordage or temporarily left out until it was passed then will silently put back in.
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Sunny
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I actually choose to pay a little more for my life insurance just to keep someone from barging into my home and sticking things into me.

And I'm not a drinker nor a smoker.
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bobnightman
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Sunny  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:00 PM)
I actually choose to pay a little more for my life insurance just to keep someone from barging into my home and sticking things into me.

And I'm not a drinker nor a smoker.



You really think that'll happen?

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Vengeance
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bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:05 PM)
You really think that'll happen?

It's specifically outlined in the HCR bill. How can you think that WON'T happen?

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bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 08:21 PM)
It's not real

That would be inaccurate...

Actually, many of them are. I cannot say regarding all of them, but I see many that I saw when I read the document [Nearly 3 reams double sided]. Yes, I read all 2700+ pages of it + about 200 pages of addendums.Scream1

There are quite a few more things as well, but cannot recall the specifics at this time. RFID implants being one of them...

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RE: Obama care--is this true?
Vengeance  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:06 PM)
bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:05 PM)
You really think that'll happen?

It's specifically outlined in the HCR bill. How can you think that WON'T happen?



So you think someone is going to barge into your home and inject you with stuff?


Say that out loud to someone ...Ha Ha

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bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:08 PM)
Vengeance  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:06 PM)
bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:05 PM)
You really think that'll happen?

It's specifically outlined in the HCR bill. How can you think that WON'T happen?



So you think someone is going to barge into your home and inject you with stuff?


Say that out loud to someone ...Ha Ha

It will be like the cable company.
Anytime Mon-Fri from 8:00 to 5:00pm, make sure your home when we show up.
They will want you to pee in a cup, fondle your breast and or penis, take blood and force the flu shot and other vaccinations.
And they won't even buy you dinner!

But seriously home visits would be more convenient for you, so you'll have to get mandatory annual doctor visits at a clinic 100 miles away.
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RE: Obama care--is this true?
bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:08 PM)
Vengeance  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:06 PM)
bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:05 PM)
You really think that'll happen?

It's specifically outlined in the HCR bill. How can you think that WON'T happen?



So you think someone is going to barge into your home and inject you with stuff?


Say that out loud to someone ...Ha Ha

Did you read the bill at all? Unless you have, then that makes me qualified to speak on this topic (since I read the whole subsection outlining the process for this exact practice) and you very unqualified and quite belligerent for either a) not taking my words FWIW, or b) not going to read the thing before you spout off. I realize that you can't now as there are about 15 different bills listed under HCR, and the original one has disappeared.

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RE: Obama care--is this true?
Sunny  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:17 PM)
bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:08 PM)
Vengeance  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:06 PM)
It's specifically outlined in the HCR bill. How can you think that WON'T happen?



So you think someone is going to barge into your home and inject you with stuff?


Say that out loud to someone ...Ha Ha

It will be like the cable company.
Anytime Mon-Fri from 8:00 to 5:00pm, make sure your home when we show up.
They will want you to pee in a cup, fondle your breast and or penis, take blood and force the flu shot and other vaccinations.
And they won't even buy you dinner!

But seriously home visits would be more convenient for you, so you'll have to get mandatory annual doctor visits at a clinic 100 miles away.

Don't forget they are specifically outlined to discuss your BMI (body mass index). So if you're overweight just slightly, they're going to preach or impose dietary guidelines quite possibly with a fine if it's not fixed by the next visit.

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Here is a link to the actual text of the Health Care bill in PDF HR 4872. Not sure if 3590 is incl...

http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/111_h...ported.pdf

We all know that different sides will spin this thing different ways. Bottom line, the bill is unconstitutional so in my eyes it was DOA and those participating in fomenting its implementation should be removed from office, charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as far as I am concerned...

However, out of all the reading I did on this, it was the loose language of the bill and the things that were NOT WRITTEN and implicitly stated that I found the most disturbing... This bill has more loopholes in it than any thing I have ever read simply because of it...

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bobnightman
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RE: Obama care--is this true?
Vengeance  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:33 PM)
bobnightman  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:08 PM)
Vengeance  Wrote: (04-16-2011 10:06 PM)
It's specifically outlined in the HCR bill. How can you think that WON'T happen?



So you think someone is going to barge into your home and inject you with stuff?


Say that out loud to someone ...Ha Ha

Did you read the bill at all? Unless you have, then that makes me qualified to speak on this topic (since I read the whole subsection outlining the process for this exact practice) and you very unqualified and quite belligerent for either a) not taking my words FWIW, or b) not going to read the thing before you spout off. I realize that you can't now as there are about 15 different bills listed under HCR, and the original one has disappeared.



I don't need to read it I am not saying they are coming to force their way into my home ...I'm saying that won't happen

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