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**Strategos**

As far as important issues like individual liberty, limits on executive power, wars, assassinations, and foreign policy. Don't forget bailouts.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/carney-dem...E-wCXLJaZR

Quote:Four years ago, Obama ran on a platform declaring, "We support constitutional protections and judicial oversight on any surveillance program involving Americans." That platform added, "We reject illegal wire-tapping of American citizens."

To borrow Biden's phrasing, those platform planks are dead, and illegal wire-tapping of Americans is alive.

Citing one of President George W. Bush's more egregious blows to the Constitution, the 2008 platform stated, "We reject sweeping claims of 'inherent' presidential power." The new platform scraps that plank and proposes no limits on presidential power. The only mentions of executive power are positive.

"We will revisit the Patriot Act," the 2008 platform promised, "and overturn unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight years."

In May 2011, Obama signed a bill reauthorizing the Patriot Act complete with the provisions that most disturbed civil libertarians, including roving wiretaps and surveillance of people with no known ties to terrorist organizations. The 2012 platform omitted any mention of the law.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 120113 09-12-2012 12:29 AM

Strategos Wrote:

As far as important issues like individual liberty, limits on executive power, wars, and foreign policy. Don't forget bailouts.

I'm sure Romney would be much better.

Romney: Nuclear Iran "problem for the World"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8_08ed_jGI

In Israel, Romney declares Jerusalem to be capital
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/In-Is...743971.php

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/N...BbYE2GmjIc
"Romney told... that he, unlike Obama, would not make disputes with Israel’s leaders a public affair. “I cannot imagine going to the United Nations, as Obama did, and criticizing Israel in front of the world. You don’t criticize your allies in public...”

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 120113 09-12-2012 12:31 AM

Since when are you in favor of Ultra Zionists, Strategos????

What Sheldon Adelson Wants?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/opinio...wants.html

“…Now, he has given $10 million to a Mitt Romney super PAC, and has pledged at least $10 million to Crossroads GPS, the advocacy group founded by Karl Rove that is running attack ads against Mr. Obama and other Democrats. Another $10 million will probably go to a similar group founded by the Koch brothers, and $10 million more to Republican Congressional super PACs…”

"…The first answer is clearly his disgust for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, supported by President Obama and most Israelis. He considers a Palestinian state “a steppingstone for the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people,”... He is even further to the right than the main pro-Israeli lobbying group, the AIPAC …"

**Strategos**

No, I don't support Romney.

I'm just trying to be even-handed and spread my criticism around.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58515 09-12-2012 07:56 AM

Strategos Wrote:

No, I don't support Romney.

I'm just trying to be even-handed and spread my criticism around.

Why wouldn't they he remind you of Bush?
They are both liberals.
And Romney is a liberal....Obama Lite.

I didn't vote for Bush in 2000, didn't vote for Obama in 2008, and won't vote for Romney in 2012.... I am not liberal.

**Disquiet**

Just wait, the similarities will be even more clear when the election scandals come pouring in.