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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 112402 09-22-2012 01:17 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Vegas Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
Thanks Vegas. Now we know the calendar is real. Is this page actually in it? Anyone have one?

The calendar was obviously distributed as a novelty at the convention... To think it was distributed by the Whitehouse would be a bit absurd... Even Bammy ain't that crazy...

NO First Lady, Michelle included would allow something like this to go into print without her and her husbands approval. Great vanity is apparent.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 09-22-2012 01:44 AM

So are any of you familar with the the altar of pergamon?

It is mentioned in Revelation 2:13 as the seat of Satan, where Antipas was slain. Antipas was roasted alive in a copper vat upon this altar it is said. Human sacrifice to Zeus, which Christ refers to as Satan, by deduction.

I'm not going to get to deep into this.

Here are a few plain links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipas_of_Pergamum

Antipas you are not forgotten brother.....moment of silence.

At the following wiki you can see pictures of the altar of pergamum. It was moved to Berlin. Again, Christ refers to it as Satan's seat in Revelation.

Take a good look at its design and layout.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Altar

Now compare it to the props on the stage at the 2008 democratic national convention. minute 1:04 is a decent shot and angle. Then spend the next few minutes after that showing what can be called nothing other than worship. Is this a stretch? Does the stage not bear a strong resemblance to the altar of pergamum? Why and who would construct a rendition of Satan's seat for this mans acceptance speech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato7BtisXzE

Want more bizarre findings?

**Vegas**

Well I have to say I'm shocked... I always thought it was Pat Robertson...

doomed

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 09-22-2012 01:51 AM

Vegas Wrote:

Well I have to say I'm shocked... I always thought it was Pat Robertson...

Not sure Vegas, but I am connecting dots like crazy. I haven't even laid out a third of the evidence.

**Bond, James Bond** Licensed to kill User ID: 007 09-22-2012 02:18 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Not sure Vegas, but I am connecting dots like crazy. I haven't even laid out a third of the evidence

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 112402 09-22-2012 05:03 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

So are any of you familar with the the altar of pergamon?

It is mentioned in Revelation 2:13 as the seat of Satan, where Antipas was slain. Antipas was roasted alive in a copper vat upon this altar it is said. Human sacrifice to Zeus, which Christ refers to as Satan, by deduction.

I'm not going to get to deep into this.

Here are a few plain links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipas_of_Pergamum

Antipas you are not forgotten brother.....moment of silence.

At the following wiki you can see pictures of the altar of pergamum. It was moved to Berlin. Again, Christ refers to it as Satan's seat in Revelation.

Take a good look at its design and layout.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Altar

Now compare it to the props on the stage at the 2008 democratic national convention. minute 1:04 is a decent shot and angle. Then spend the next few minutes after that showing what can be called nothing other than worship. Is this a stretch? Does the stage not bear a strong resemblance to the altar of pergamum? Why and who would construct a rendition of Satan's seat for this mans acceptance speech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato7BtisXzE

Want more bizarre findings?

Um.....WOW! Thanks!!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 120699 09-22-2012 05:22 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

So are any of you familar with the the altar of pergamon?

It is mentioned in Revelation 2:13 as the seat of Satan, where Antipas was slain. Antipas was roasted alive in a copper vat upon this altar it is said. Human sacrifice to Zeus, which Christ refers to as Satan, by deduction.

I'm not going to get to deep into this.

Here are a few plain links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipas_of_Pergamum

Antipas you are not forgotten brother.....moment of silence.

At the following wiki you can see pictures of the altar of pergamum. It was moved to Berlin. Again, Christ refers to it as Satan's seat in Revelation.

Take a good look at its design and layout.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Altar

Now compare it to the props on the stage at the 2008 democratic national convention. minute 1:04 is a decent shot and angle. Then spend the next few minutes after that showing what can be called nothing other than worship. Is this a stretch? Does the stage not bear a strong resemblance to the altar of pergamum? Why and who would construct a rendition of Satan's seat for this mans acceptance speech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato7BtisXzE

Want more bizarre findings?

Isn't Revelations written by John and not Christ?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 09-22-2012 05:47 AM

Quote:Isn't Revelations written by John and not Christ?

Yes, it is written by John, but the words I am referring to are red letter denoting that they are the words of Christ.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 120699 09-22-2012 06:04 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Quote:Isn't Revelations written by John and not Christ?

Yes, it is written by John, but the words I am referring to are red letter denoting that they are the words of Christ.

Give us the chapter and verse.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 120699 09-22-2012 06:23 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Quote:Isn't Revelations written by John and not Christ?

Yes, it is written by John, but the words I am referring to are red letter denoting that they are the words of Christ.

Give us the chapter and verse.

Satan is the Ego
Hell is getting lost in egoic emotions, hate, guilt, fear, jealousy, greed, etc. and feeling the guilt or shame from it. That is what I take Rev 2:13 as.

There was a huge lapse in time between Christ talking to prophets and Revelations being written. Supposedly written between 68-95 AD.

Sometimes I think Revelations is a story men dreamed up to scare people to conform.

Obama may or may not be Christ, I don't know and it isn't my job to judge him as a man except where my political vote should go.

Wouldn't that be embarssing to vote against Christ?

Likely he would forgive us. chuckle

**eye floaters** lop guest User ID: 122596 09-22-2012 06:37 AM

he can think that if he wants it just loops back on himself

dont worry about it... look for positive around you

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 122596 09-22-2012 06:41 AM

dont worry we all get a key

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 122596 09-22-2012 06:44 AM

you can all come out on your own time

but dont look for me and my family again ty

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 09-22-2012 06:48 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Quote:Isn't Revelations written by John and not Christ?

Yes, it is written by John, but the words I am referring to are red letter denoting that they are the words of Christ.

Give us the chapter and verse.

I gave the verse, rev 2:13.

It is Christ speaking to the church in pergamos. He instructs John to write his words.

Rev 2:12 ¶ And 2532 to the angel 32 of the church 1577 in 1722 Pergamos 4010 write 1125 ; These things 3592 saith 3004 he which hath 2192 the sharp 3691 sword 4501 with two edges 1366;

Rev 2:13 I know 1492 thy 4675 works 2041, and 2532 where 4226 thou dwellest 2730 , [even] where 3699 Satan's 4567 seat 2362 [is]: and 2532 thou holdest fast 2902 my 3450 name 3686, and 2532 hast 720 0 not 3756 denied 720 my 3450 faith 4102, even 2532 in 1722 those days 2250 wherein 1722 3739 Antipas 493 [was] my 3450 faithful 4103 martyr 3144, who 3739 was slain 615 among 3844 you 5213, where 3699 Satan 4567 dwelleth 2730 .

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 09-22-2012 07:00 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
Yes, it is written by John, but the words I am referring to are red letter denoting that they are the words of Christ.

Give us the chapter and verse.

Satan is the Ego
Hell is getting lost in egoic emotions, hate, guilt, fear, jealousy, greed, etc. and feeling the guilt or shame from it. That is what I take Rev 2:13 as.

There was a huge lapse in time between Christ talking to prophets and Revelations being written. Supposedly written between 68-95 AD.

Sometimes I think Revelations is a story men dreamed up to scare people to conform.

Obama may or may not be Christ, I don't know and it isn't my job to judge him as a man except where my political vote should go.

Wouldn't that be embarssing to vote against Christ?

Likely he would forgive us.

I find it hard to accept that Christ would mock his own words concerning peace. It is a very profound statement, and it is a shame that they were not held with deep devotion over the last 2000 years.

I absolutely agree, blessed is the peacemaker......Search your own heart don't you agree?

I am not saying who Obama is one way or another. He could simply just be a megalomaniac.

What I don't like is someone who condemns the words of a man, words that are extremely pure in mockery, then quotes another passage to suggest that he is that one.

That is not sound. We are talking about the leader of the greatest military ever. I want an extremely sound mind in that seat. The idea of casting out blessed is the peacemaker for they shall find peace, and then claiming to be the "only begotten son" in a round about way as you sit as Commander in Chief is troubling.

You have to see that. These are some subtleties at work that I was not going to get into.

As far as the authenticity of the text, it is moot for this discussion. The altar of pergamum is real, and those stage props resemble it nearly identical with a modern twist.

Now if you want to question if there was an Antipas who was slain there, and all that then you are more than welcome to do that. There are other sources concerning this matter if you want to be diligent about it.