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Obamanomics
CooterBrown
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09-01-2012 11:51 PM

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Post: #61
RE: Obamanomics

The End Ain't Nigh ... You Just Want It To Be
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Luvapottamus
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09-01-2012 11:54 PM

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Post: #62
RE: Obamanomics

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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Luvapottamus
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09-01-2012 11:59 PM

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Post: #63
RE: Obamanomics
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I'm not sure what Obama wants to do either, but we can read it after we pass it.


As for me? I'm, short Facebook, and CitiGroup, long on Wackenhut, Blue Cross, Phizer, Monsanto, Premier Election Systems, and the Yuan.

Thanks for your support.

XOXOX

Nancy

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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CooterBrown
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09-02-2012 12:01 AM

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Post: #64
RE: Obamanomics
Luvapottamus  Wrote:
What would a democrat supermajority and an Obama second term do?



The talk on the (looney side of the) street is that it would destroy America ...



LoP Guest  Wrote:
Obama 2nd Term Will Destroy America


Wingnuts said the same thing about Clinton's 2nd term too chuckle


Doom FAIL Action Report: #1,134,404

Please state your concern: Clinton 2nd Term Will Destroy America !!!
Did you anticipate Doom? Yes
Did the anticipated Doom occur? No
Were you disappointed by the lack of Doom? Yes
Rather than Doom, was it actually no big deal? Yes
Does it usually end up being no big deal? Yes
Do you often anticipate Doom? Yes
Were those who convinced you of this Doom selling something? Yes
Do you anticipate buying other stories about impending Doom? Yes
Have there been countless other impending Doom FAILS? Yes
Will you ever learn? No




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Jptdknpa

Richard Eldritch  Wrote:
Link: We've never been right about anything have we?

DrPostman  Wrote:
For 16 years I've been seeing people fearmonger on the net and if anything
I've become more amused at their constant claims of doom than made afraid.

Richard Strong  Wrote:
I have to agree. Been on these sites for damn near 10 years.
Not one thing has come to pass
and i damn near heard every conspiracy.

RickRollD  Wrote:
every prediction ive ever seen in my life about "DOOM" Events NEVER
HAPPEN. The only doom is what goes on in these peoples minds

CooterBrown  Wrote:
For incurable Fringe Schizos ... Doom Delusion is exactly like Rapture Psychosis ...
The End is always Nigh ... it never shows up, of course ... but it is always "imminent"


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Conservatives Have Larger 'Fear Center' in Brain

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220612...r-in-brain


Offering Reality-Based Rebuttals
To Conservative Lies Only Makes
Conservatives Cling Harder To Those Lies

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-sweene...26805.html


Delusional Beliefs And Imaginary Concepts

http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/fre...-concepts/


The Psychosis of Rapture Belief

http://sciencebasedlife.wordpress.com/20...re-belief/


Schizotypal personalities include:
o Feelings that external events have an unusual personal meaning
o Unusual thinking, beliefs, perceptions or behavior
o Suspicious or paranoid ideas
o Extreme emotional responses
o Excessive, persistent social anxiety
o Feelings of impending doom


Religious Psychosis, Schizophrenia and Paranoia

Models of religious fanaticism, such as Jesus and Mohammad, display
the classic symptoms of a religious type schizophrenia (hearing voices,
delusions of grandeur, hallucinations, sociopathy, paranoia, believing
that they have supernatural powers, etc.), thus religious fanatics
model themselves on classic religious schizophrenics.

With the religious paranoid, they are under the delusion that their
every thought and action is being watched 24 hours a day by someone
who can send them to Hell for the slightest infraction. In the world of
psychiatry this disorder is considered to be symptomatic of paranoia,
but in the world of religious fanaticism, this type of paranoia is encouraged
and even considered "normal".

Unfortunately, once you are profoundly paranoid, its grip will spread
to every corner of your life. This is clearly evidenced on the Internet
where many forums are devoted entirely to paranoid delusions and
their triggering by religious fanatics who are convinced not only that
the world is soon to end but that such an apocalypse is being brought
about intentionally by evil entities such as the Illuminati, the New World
Order, or even Alien Reptiles -- shape shifters in human form from
other planets who have infiltrated the highest levels of government.


"The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad
has made the world ugly and bad." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche


The End Ain't Nigh ... You Just Want It To Be
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Luvapottamus
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Post: #65
RE: Obamanomics
CooterBrown  Wrote:
Luvapottamus  Wrote:
What would a democrat supermajority and an Obama second term do?



The talk on the (looney side of the) street is that it would destroy America ...

No I'm asking you personally.

What do you honestly think the Obama Economic Platform is. Or hypothetically, if he could do whatever he wanted(let's assume he has a democratic supermajority that completely backs his plan, and moves it forward expeditiously)

What do you think the plan is?

I'm happy to share what I think it is, if anybody wants to read it.

Feel free to assume Obama isn't responsible for one, that it's congress' responsibility if you want to. Assume Democrats have a congressional Economic Plan, and Obama agrees to sign it.

What is it?

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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LoP Guest
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09-02-2012 01:07 AM

 



Post: #66
RE: Obamanomics
Luvapottamus  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
Luvapottamus  Wrote:
Me? You think I want to spoil startups?

I'm A RINO Paultard.

What i REALLY AM is an FDR/JFK democrat.

How come you aren't?

You're for globalism, and green energy.

Well, Obama screwed you on the Green energy, but that's minor compated to continuing globalism, and propping up criminal banks.

I'm pretty sure the only way you're gonna get a democratic party and president that are successful and competent are to return them to FDR and JFK's policies.

You haven't asked them to, (You really are going to have to DEMAND that they do, because they don't want to.

And that's why they haven't. They don't want to, you don't care.


You don't even know what they want to do, you just assume they can't because they told you republicans won't let them.

chuckle

Can you tell me what they tried to do that the republicans wouldn't let them do?

Popcorn

Blocked:
US Republicans block debate of finance rules reform
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8644952.stm
Jobs bill
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/...is-popular
Equal pay for woman
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/...55400316/1
Middle class tax cut extensions
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/11...66759.html
Blocked from spending on eduction
http://www.ictscoop.com/news/general-new...ation.html
Ending tax break for oil companies
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ss..._obam.html

General read about the obstructionism
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/repub...by-numbers

Yes they blocked stuff after the tea party sweep in 2010.

What was Obama's Economic Plan in 2009?

Can you lay it out in your own words?

When the senate convened for the first time in 2009, the democrat majority had the opportunity to eliminate the filibuster threat by a simple majority vote on senate rules.

They should have been ready to ram through an economic recovery program right out of the gate, and they could have if they wanted to.

Let's assume they did, and they just goofed on the filibuster thing. Oops. Oh well, let's move forward and not linger on that.

Let's just assume we give them and Obama another chance and a filibuster-proof supermajority.

In your own words, what would they do with it?

I'm not talking about tax cuts for oil companies or equal pay for women. Those are fine, worth taking up, but they aren't an Economic Plan.

What's Obamanomics in your own words. What's the plan for 2013?

And what was the plan for 2009?

Can you articulate one? I've never heard one put forth.

I can help you post more "republican's blocked" links if you want, but that's not the question I'm asking.

I want to know what the democrat plan is. We can go back and read everything you linked and see if it's any good or not, but nothing you posted gave me any idea of an overall economic plan.

Looks like they're just playing piddlywinks with 1990's stuff. What's the 2009, and 2013 comprehensive plan?

Well, that is a good question, and indeed it is a shame I do not know it actually. I can do some wild guesses about the talk they talk, but I don't know of any specifics.
But I have seen too much lying on the other side these past 4 years, and I have no idea about their recovery plan also, that I cannot get behind them.
With Mitt it is the same as with Obama, I can assume things. My assumptions are these:

- Democrats/Obama
Try to put money in education and science, push for the future of energy, which is not oil, try to work with other nations to resolve thing and start business, do some big infrastructure things, this worked in the past to some degree. So there is no quick fix, accept reality, be a technocrat, and do the best in the space you can manoeuvre.

- Republicans/Mitt
Probably the same as above, because he is lying to be conservative, he is a moderate, allmost a liberal. But ok, he has his backers who are not. Oil and the military industry will get money again. More programs for rights of workers and minorities will vanish, foreign nations will be able to own allmost everything, people will get rich from it, it will look like a recovery but it will be the next bubble. After that, the world will be one, cos America has accepted equality amongst nations. ;)

I don't know, in the end it also doesn't really matter, like people say. I still think I take the path more preferably with the left than with the right. I am definitely not like a conservative who thinks the whole deal for a new world will stop if Obama is gone.

I actually also do not fear it. I think it will be the same anyways, and the tea party is for nationalism and especially some corporate preferential status in the world nationalism.

We will need to lead by example, and we are being forced to move into that position. Because it gives us a world empire and we like that and think it is safest.
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WhenWillitEnd
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09-02-2012 01:16 AM

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Post: #67
RE: Obamanomics
This dumb "progressive" c#nt in my stats class says..

"We need to cut taxes and increase spending"


I couldn't believe my ears... I just laughed and referenced the national debt.. but there is no appealing to logic because keynesians are usually illogical ignoramuses.
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LoP Guest
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09-02-2012 01:23 AM

 



Post: #68
RE: Obamanomics
LoP Guest  Wrote:
I love that Obama was not side tracked by the republican economic crash he inherited and still brought universal healthcare and tried to help struggling people, while republicans only where shitting on him, on the country, on the recovery, on peoples bargaining rights, on middle class wealth and on respect itself.

Praise democrats and liberals.

It doesn't matter who caused the crash!! We are responsible for ourselves!! Family and friends will help you out if you are down.
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LoP Guest
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09-02-2012 01:28 AM

 



Post: #69
RE: Obamanomics
WhenWillitEnd  Wrote:
This dumb "progressive" c#nt in my stats class says..

"We need to cut taxes and increase spending"


I couldn't believe my ears... I just laughed and referenced the national debt.. but there is no appealing to logic because keynesians are usually illogical ignoramuses.

The right and left has proponents and opponents of this. It is a hard choice. Do you spend to start and fix the economy, or do you wait till it will turn on out of itself, and how long will that take.
I know the IMF wants Greece and such to do big austerity. Most likely this will mean a decade of suffering.

So don't be too quick to pass judgement and laughs.

If they, those evil bastards, did not do the bailouts, you would feel the hurt a lot more.That it is on the debt now means they acted like it did not really happen. But if the economy halts and then collapses, maybe you would have like to spend a little more.

If you want it to fail anyways, then you are in a free-er position than a president to judge about those things.
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09-02-2012 03:19 AM

 



Post: #70
RE: Obamanomics
WhenWillitEnd  Wrote:
in my stats class

Jptdknpa
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