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**Strategos**

http://www.viewzone.com/tiax.html

Quote:The controversy arises because most of the datable artifacts are from the more recent past, while the stone megaliths and other structures do not lend themselves to dating techniques like Carbon 14. Many stone pieces have been uncovered from more than six feet of earth. The mountain ranges which surround the area are not high enough to permit sufficient runoff of water or wind erosion to have covered the ruins to such a depth. This suggests a very old date as the accumulation of sediment is slow in this arid land.

There is also evidence that architectural structures exist at the bottom of Lake Titicaca, suggesting that the civilization existed before the lake was formed. Many scientists believe that the lake formed during some great flood and find similar legends around the world of a flood dating back thousands of years. The local legend contains reference to this flood in their creation myth.

The religion of Tiahuanaco centered around the cult of a sky and thunder god Viracocha. The deity was generally depicted as having staves in both of his hands and an aureole around his head. The aureole suggests the qualities of a sun god, represented on the bas-relief in the upper part of the famous Sun Gate in Tiahuanaco.

According to legend, the world was created by Viracocha near Lake Titicaca. After the great deluge or the receding of chaotic floodwaters Viracocha descended to earth and created plants, animals and men to the empty land; he built the city of Tiahuanaco and appointed 4 world rulers of whom Manco Capak became the superior of the Ursa Major world, i.e. the north horizon (Busto II 1981: 7).

The lake appears to lack a source, such as a river or stream, and there is proof that it is slowly evaporating and its shoreline receding with the passage of time. To date, there has been no satisfactory explanation of how the lake was formed in the first place. This is just one of many mysteries of the region and ranks Tiahuanaco as one of the top ten mysterious places on Earth.

**silversides**

Tiwanaku
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiwanaku

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**DoomGuy** · **DoomGuy** Rarrrrr! User ID: 105323 07-06-2012 09:27 AM **Posts: 2,176**

f*ck yeah that shit's groovy
Ancient stonework is awe inspiring. look at that last pic of the wall, so perfect yet so random.
I'm sure ancient woodwork was just as good, but has since perished where these stone creations still stand.

**GLNLI** lop guest User ID: 105148 07-06-2012 09:46 AM

AGREED

GL

**Guitar Doctor**

There is a site in South Africa that is at least 100,00 years old. It is on the gold fields.

It has been conservatively dated at 100,000 years and has been studied for over 20 years and still little is known about they people but the carvings they made on stone are the same ones the Sumerian's later used or borrowed from this far older culture. The Egyptians then borrowed from the Babylons and Sumerian's seems to be the fashion of the day.

Good to look into I have found little on the net but I have several Hard Print articles.

Some people have dated the site at 120,000 to 160,000 years old.

**Ultima_Thule**

I doubt Tiahuanco is older than Gobekli Tepe, but i'd be willing to bet that Puma Punku(which is very close by) is the oldest megalithic structure is all of South America. It might even be as old as Gobekli Tepe.

**NightHelix** lop guest User ID: 97796 07-06-2012 10:28 AM

**alert and able** · (This post was last modified: 07-06-2012 10:51 AM by alert and able.)

http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/atlantisboliviapart2.htm

site of Atlantis? or part of the civilization that was atlantis? located on the Bolivian plains. the flooding of atlantis was the flooding of lake titikaka? the run off of the flood water ended up near Cerro Unitas, Chili, where natives built a giant geoplyph? (speculation)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/...Chile.html

**Nothing Is True**

Anyone know who rebuilt it? ..and who dug down over 6 feet (to get the stones), without recognising what sort of deposit they were digging through (eg. wind-blown, water-washed, deliberate backfill, dump etc)?

**GLNLI** lop guest User ID: 105148 07-06-2012 12:12 PM

DEFINITELY OLDER

GL

**tethys**

Who did that heavy building work at an altitude of 12,000 feet?

**GREY LENSMAN**

IT WAS NOT ME, HONEST

GL

**Ohio Dude**

tethys Wrote:

Who did that heavy building work at an altitude of 12,000 feet?

It wasn't that high when it was built.

Because it hardly ever rains the locals have always built their town at the highest altitude that still supports crop growth in order to get the seasonal glacial runoff. They built canals to funnel the water to their town. But towns have been found way too high to support crops. But then another canal goes further down the mountain to another town with empty fields which is also too high for crops to grown, and repeat. It is speculated that the mountains rose continuously during the 'time of man' and the people were forced lower and lower on the mountain (but at the same limiting altitude), and they just added another zig-zag to the canals.

**Ohio Dude** · (This post was last modified: 07-06-2012 02:03 PM by Ohio Dude.)

About Tihuanaco: It has supermassive stones. Very very impressive. And they fit together perfectly.

They are joined together in spots with metal. There is a chiseled channel across two stones and a wider impression at the ends dug into the two stones. This channel is then filled with molten pot metal creating a 'staple' that held them together.
(BTW pot metal is an allow of low temperature melting metals like copper, zinc, lead and tin. Low tech.)

http://www.labyrinthina.com/tiwanaku.htm

**Full Circle**

Tiahuanaco, whose original name is Taypicala or ‘Rock in the Center,’ has four surviving primary structures, called the Akapana pyramid, the Kalasasaya platform, the Subterranean temple, and the Puma Punku. The Akapana pyramid, sometimes called the sacred mountain of Tiahuanaco, is precisely oriented to the cardinal directions and has an extremely sophisticated system of interlinked surface and subterranean channels. The structure known as the Puma Punka appears to be the remains of a great pier and this makes sense for Lake Titicaca long ago lapped upon the shores of Tiahuanaco. One of the construction blocks from which the pier was fashioned weighs an estimated 440 tons (equal to nearly 600 full-size cars) and several other blocks are between 100 and 150 tons. The quarry for these giant blocks was on the western shore of Titicaca, some ten miles away. There is no known technology in the ancient Andean world that could have transported stones of such massive weight and size. The Andean people of 500 AD, with their simple reed boats, could certainly not have moved them.

Nearby the Akapana pyramid is the Kalasasaya compound, a structure whose design and celestial alignment suggests a great antiquity for Tiahuanaco. Arthur Posnansky, a German-Bolivian scholar, exhaustively studied Tiahuanaco for almost fifty years. Posnansky conducted precise surveys of all the principal structures of Tiahuanaco, including the Kalasasaya compound, which is delineated by a series of vertical stone pillars. Utilizing his measurements of sight lines along these pillars, the celestial orientation of the Kalasasaya, and its purposely-intended deviations from the cardinal points, Posnansky was able to show the alignment of the structure was based upon an astronomical principle called the obliquity of the ecliptic. His findings strongly suggest that its initial construction was around 15,000 BC, and this date was later confirmed by a team of four astronomers from various universities in Germany. Equally astonishing, the spatial arrangement of Tiahuanaco’s four main structures - relative to one another and to the stars above - indicates that the initial site engineers had an advanced knowledge of astronomy, geomancy and mathematics.

http://www.worldreviewer.com/travel-guid...aco/56170/