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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 107136 07-08-2012 06:41 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

GREY LENSMAN Wrote:
CC AND DIGGER

YOUR EVIDENCE FOR 1500 BC IS????????????

THAT IS JUST A NUMBER PLUCKED OUT OF THE AIR.

I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE OLDER DATES

IF THE POLE SHIFTED IN 10,500 BC, THAT WOULD PUT OUT ALL THE PREVIOUS ASTRONOMICAL ALIGNMENTS BUT THEY CAN BE CALCULATED TAKING IT INTO ACCOUNT.

NOTICE I SAID IF.

APART FROM ONE MAN, NOBODY REALLY SEEMS TO HAVE DONE A DETAILED STUDY WITH MODERN TOOLS AND PRACTICES.

JUST LOOK AT GOBEKLI TEPI, FOUND IN 1994 AND YET ONLY 5% HAS BEEN UNCOVERED.

AS WITH PUMA PUNKU, JUST LEFT TO ONE MAN INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE TEAM IN.

WHY

BECAUSE THEY CAN "WRITE OFF" THE FINDINGS OF ONE MAN MUCH EASIER AS "OBSERVER ERROR"

GL

WHAT POLE SHIFT? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE HAS EVER BEEN A POLE SHIFT OR THAT THE EARTH WAS EVER WITHOUT ITS MOON.

AND IF YOU WANT OLD, LOOK IN SOUTHERN AFRICA.

of course there have been pole shifts...without question. What 3rd rate school did you attend? Somewhere near Detroit?

**Full Circle**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Full Circle Wrote:
diggerbanks Wrote:
Nor this.

Personally, I think they had a much greater understanding of acoustical levitation and cymatics, and how to work with those properties. Far more than we do at this time.

We've chosen a more physical path for energy use (more material) rather than working with the energies of the universe properly. (in flow)

Of course the other other view is that the ancients had technology.... LOTS of technology.
My view is Biblically based.
My view is that man was far more advanced than they lead us to believe and were influenced by the Ben A Elohim (Gen 6)..... translated as Sons of God.... and always viewed as ANGELS in the OT.

Secret Societies are simply the latter day Mystery Cults that have always been around and hail back to Babylon.
Osiris and his whore wife were very very anti Yahweh.
The secret Societies do control the systems of man on earth.
Therefore they do control the information that is put forward.
Anything that shows Evolution to be a fraud is suppressed.... ancient technology does that.

To claim that "It is a mystery" or "Wow.. they did all this with sticks and pulleys!" is ludicrous.
Claiming that Evolution happened is Ludicrous.

Funny isn't it that Genesis talks of a great cataclysm in Noah's day.. and note... IT WAS FAR MORE THAN WORLD WIDE FLOODING.

Well, the same stories are in other cultures and texts too. The Shemsu Hor, Viracocha (the god-man of the Incas at Tiahuanaco), Enki, etc.

"The Viracochas, said the ancient myths, the bearded, white-skinned strangers, the 'shining ones', the 'faithful soldiers'.

For me, I think this is about more than technology, or the suppression of it. Much more.....

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 107152 07-08-2012 07:29 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
GREY LENSMAN Wrote:
CC AND DIGGER

YOUR EVIDENCE FOR 1500 BC IS????????????

THAT IS JUST A NUMBER PLUCKED OUT OF THE AIR.

I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE OLDER DATES

IF THE POLE SHIFTED IN 10,500 BC, THAT WOULD PUT OUT ALL THE PREVIOUS ASTRONOMICAL ALIGNMENTS BUT THEY CAN BE CALCULATED TAKING IT INTO ACCOUNT.

NOTICE I SAID IF.

APART FROM ONE MAN, NOBODY REALLY SEEMS TO HAVE DONE A DETAILED STUDY WITH MODERN TOOLS AND PRACTICES.

JUST LOOK AT GOBEKLI TEPI, FOUND IN 1994 AND YET ONLY 5% HAS BEEN UNCOVERED.

AS WITH PUMA PUNKU, JUST LEFT TO ONE MAN INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE TEAM IN.

WHY

BECAUSE THEY CAN "WRITE OFF" THE FINDINGS OF ONE MAN MUCH EASIER AS "OBSERVER ERROR"

GL

WHAT POLE SHIFT? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE HAS EVER BEEN A POLE SHIFT OR THAT THE EARTH WAS EVER WITHOUT ITS MOON.

AND IF YOU WANT OLD, LOOK IN SOUTHERN AFRICA.

of course there have been pole shifts...without question. What 3rd rate school did you attend? Somewhere near Detroit?

Not in the way that Captain CAPSLOCK is describing. He seems to think a pole shift is a literal reversal of the earths axis, which is why he thinks there would be some sort of astronomical incongruity. Like the earth just decided one day and said "f*ck it, i'm rolling over... then stopping."

I don't think anyone is debating the existence of magnetic pole shifts.

**silversides**

So I not been to any Inca ruins. I have seen Tulum in mexico which is a Maya ruin.

Tulum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulum

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**Full Circle**

Beautiful pics Silversides!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 107184 07-08-2012 09:47 PM

silversides Wrote:

So I not been to any Inca ruins. I have seen Tulum in mexico which is a Maya ruin.

Tulum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulum

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tiawanako is not incan it predates the incas. btw i have been and also been to yucatan

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 97166 07-08-2012 10:03 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Full Circle Wrote:
diggerbanks Wrote:
Nor this.

Personally, I think they had a much greater understanding of acoustical levitation and cymatics, and how to work with those properties. Far more than we do at this time.

We've chosen a more physical path for energy use (more material) rather than working with the energies of the universe properly. (in flow)

Of course the other other view is that the ancients had technology.... LOTS of technology.
My view is Biblically based.
My view is that man was far more advanced than they lead us to believe and were influenced by the Ben A Elohim (Gen 6)..... translated as Sons of God.... and always viewed as ANGELS in the OT.

Secret Societies are simply the latter day Mystery Cults that have always been around and hail back to Babylon.
Osiris and his whore wife were very very anti Yahweh.
The secret Societies do control the systems of man on earth.
Therefore they do control the information that is put forward.
Anything that shows Evolution to be a fraud is suppressed.... ancient technology does that.

To claim that "It is a mystery" or "Wow.. they did all this with sticks and pulleys!" is ludicrous.
Claiming that Evolution happened is Ludicrous.

Funny isn't it that Genesis talks of a great cataclysm in Noah's day.. and note... IT WAS FAR MORE THAN WORLD WIDE FLOODING.

Some guy is doing multiton megaliths in his back yard for fun with nothing more than a shovel and some logs and buckets of sand.
Its been on youtube for ever as its been around 10 years and its a hobby for him.
modern stonehenge maker.

Don't need fancy equipment, just more brains than most here.

10 tons enough for you?

remember, stonehenge took 1600 years which is 7 times longer than the US has been here.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 97166 07-08-2012 10:09 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
WHAT POLE SHIFT? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE HAS EVER BEEN A POLE SHIFT OR THAT THE EARTH WAS EVER WITHOUT ITS MOON.

AND IF YOU WANT OLD, LOOK IN SOUTHERN AFRICA.

of course there have been pole shifts...without question. What 3rd rate school did you attend? Somewhere near Detroit?

Not in the way that Captain CAPSLOCK is describing. He seems to think a pole shift is a literal reversal of the earths axis, which is why he thinks there would be some sort of astronomical incongruity. Like the earth just decided one day and said "f*ck it, i'm rolling over... then stopping."

I don't think anyone is debating the existence of magnetic pole shifts.

Ask a geologist.
It takes thousands of years but it does happen.
Its just not the overnight catastrophic even that most here envision.

**FreedomStands**

It makes more sense that the Gobekli structures are older than those in the Americas.

**silversides**

LoP Guest Wrote:

tiawanako is not incan it predates the incas. btw i have been and also been to yucatan

Ah I have been as far south as Columbia. I did not see any Indian ruins in Columbia. I did see a Spanish Fort. I also got to hold a Sloth. I Columbian government was worried about us and we stayed in their naval base. We had police protection as we traveled around.

Cartagena, Colombia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartagena,_Colombia

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWvMcsw_yc4

**handpalm**

nice

**Tyche Unleashed**

Full Circle Wrote:

diggerbanks Wrote:
Full Circle Wrote:
Not this poster.

Nor this.

Personally, I think they had a much greater understanding of acoustical levitation and cymatics, and how to work with those properties. Far more than we do at this time.

We've chosen a more physical path for energy use (more material) rather than working with the energies of the universe properly. (in flow)

I have been thinking along the same lines.
Somehow we have forgotten to work with energy and flow.Those who either always have or attempt to do so are so ridiculed it hardly seems worth the effort.Just grab a crane,eh?