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Plant experts (or anyone that wants to read): Should I plant my baby trees or...
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Plant experts (or anyone that wants to read): Should I plant my baby trees or...
Keep them in their water bottle, which is filled up with water? Theyre pine trees, about 3 inchs tall, there are three of them and I uprooted them out of the ground a couple days ago. And they do have roots but idk if its all right to plant them yet but if I did pot them I would keep them on my windowsill so they could get sunlight.
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You'll want to pot them and take care of them until they begin to create a thick stalk and a well developed root system. Then transplant outdoors, somewhere with a lot of space where they will be able to root out well.

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Depends on what part of the country you are in.
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09-22-2012 03:42 PM

 



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Jhikpghf

best to pot them up

northern or southern hemi? wouldn't put them out in the ground this time of the year in either, but tropics is a different story. they're hardy but need established root systems before drought/heat/cold sets in
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i'd pot them and put them in a sunny window. turn them a 1/4 turn every few days. plant them when spring warms up.
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These were already in the ground and doing well? Why were they removed? Yeah if you live in a zone that is just approaching Fall right now, put them in the ground so their roots can get hold for a few months before the freeze sets in...they will be fine. At 3" tall why would someone break the root-ball apart and submerge their now exposed roots in water? Next time, keep the dirt around the roots and transplant to a better/more personal landscape inclined area right away.

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Jhikpghf

best to pot them up

northern or southern hemi? wouldn't put them out in the ground this time of the year in either, but tropics is a different story. they're hardy but need established root systems before drought/heat/cold sets in

Northern. Though if I did pot them, I would keep the pot on a windowsill.
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These were already in the ground and doing well? Why were they removed? Yeah if you live in a zone that is just approaching Fall right now, put them in the ground so their roots can get hold for a few months before the freeze sets in...they will be fine. At 3" tall why would someone break the root-ball apart and submerge their now exposed roots in water? Next time, keep the dirt around the roots and transplant to a better/more personal landscape inclined area right away.

They were cute, I couldnt resist taking them home :(
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Are they pines or conifers?

Both can be put outside before frost sets in but they will need time to root again before the frost comes. Evergreens are very hardy plants so will do well outside. If you decide to pot them make sure the pot is not too small. They should really go into 12" pots so they wont need repotting next year. If you pot them you will also have to make sure you feed them well.
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247mph  Wrote:
These were already in the ground and doing well? Why were they removed? Yeah if you live in a zone that is just approaching Fall right now, put them in the ground so their roots can get hold for a few months before the freeze sets in...they will be fine. At 3" tall why would someone break the root-ball apart and submerge their now exposed roots in water? Next time, keep the dirt around the roots and transplant to a better/more personal landscape inclined area right away.

They were cute, I couldnt resist taking them home :(

I've been there myself buddy...I love the trees and plants (I've "kidnapped" my fair share over the years), I would seriously get them in pots (indoors for the Winter) or the ground where you want them...before it gets too cold before Winter outside. They are young enough to stand a winter indoors in nicely drained soil until Spring (6 inch wide pots TOPS if they are only 3" tall)...best of luck with them. Plant them far apart in the ground, evergreens tend to need about 15-20 feet between them, information for the future.

Someone got into our heads, with big steel toed boots, cable cutters, and a chainsaw...they went to town. Neurons got exposed, curcuits got rewired. Our brain cells got obliterated... (Denzel Washington..."The Manchurian Candidate".)
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You MUST add mycorrhiza to the soil so that the root system can develop properly.
It's a beneficial soil fungus that is very important-it enables the nutriments in the soil to be changed into a condition that can be easily absorbed by the feeder roots.
Without the presence of Mycorrhiza in the soil,the tree will loose vigour and slowly starve-IT'S THAT IMPORTANT!
If you dig down into the soil around a pine tree out in the wild,in particular,the soil that is buried under the old,fallen pine needles (under the tree's canopy) you will come across a white substance that looks like cobwebs running through the soil and it tends to grow in clumps.
THIS is the stuff you're after!
Gather a few hand fulls of the stuff (along with some old needle mulch) and mix it in with the soil you use to pot the pines in.
Take particular note to apply some directly around the root system of your pines before placing them in soil.
I grow bonsai trees and this is a very handy thing to know if you're potting up pine species-it lifts the success rate greatly!
Cheers.
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You MUST add mycorrhiza to the soil so that the root system can develop properly.
It's a beneficial soil fungus that is very important-it enables the nutriments in the soil to be changed into a condition that can be easily absorbed by the feeder roots.
Without the presence of Mycorrhiza in the soil,the tree will loose vigour and slowly starve-IT'S THAT IMPORTANT!
If you dig down into the soil around a pine tree out in the wild,in particular,the soil that is buried under the old,fallen pine needles (under the tree's canopy) you will come across a white substance that looks like cobwebs running through the soil and it tends to grow in clumps.
THIS is the stuff you're after!
Gather a few hand fulls of the stuff (along with some old needle mulch) and mix it in with the soil you use to pot the pines in.
Take particular note to apply some directly around the root system of your pines before placing them in soil.
I grow bonsai trees and this is a very handy thing to know if you're potting up pine species-it lifts the success rate greatly!
Cheers.

Jhikpghf

The tree can last for the winter without it, but it wont do very well without
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09-22-2012 11:12 PM

 



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Are they pines or conifers?

Both can be put outside before frost sets in but they will need time to root again before the frost comes. Evergreens are very hardy plants so will do well outside. If you decide to pot them make sure the pot is not too small. They should really go into 12" pots so they wont need repotting next year. If you pot them you will also have to make sure you feed them well.

Not sure what a conifer is but they look like baby pine trees, my dad even said they were and he knows a lot about plants.
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Pi  Wrote:
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They were cute, I couldnt resist taking them home :(

I've been there myself buddy...I love the trees and plants (I've "kidnapped" my fair share over the years), I would seriously get them in pots (indoors for the Winter) or the ground where you want them...before it gets too cold before Winter outside. They are young enough to stand a winter indoors in nicely drained soil until Spring (6 inch wide pots TOPS if they are only 3" tall)...best of luck with them. Plant them far apart in the ground, evergreens tend to need about 15-20 feet between them, information for the future.

I planted them in a pot and theyre outside right now since its really warm where I am and they could probably use the outside after being cooped inside in a water bottle. But will bring them inside before I go to bed since its been cool in the mornings and they will most def be indoors when its cold out.
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09-22-2012 11:21 PM

 



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LoP Guest  Wrote:
You MUST add mycorrhiza to the soil so that the root system can develop properly.
It's a beneficial soil fungus that is very important-it enables the nutriments in the soil to be changed into a condition that can be easily absorbed by the feeder roots.
Without the presence of Mycorrhiza in the soil,the tree will loose vigour and slowly starve-IT'S THAT IMPORTANT!
If you dig down into the soil around a pine tree out in the wild,in particular,the soil that is buried under the old,fallen pine needles (under the tree's canopy) you will come across a white substance that looks like cobwebs running through the soil and it tends to grow in clumps.
THIS is the stuff you're after!
Gather a few hand fulls of the stuff (along with some old needle mulch) and mix it in with the soil you use to pot the pines in.
Take particular note to apply some directly around the root system of your pines before placing them in soil.
I grow bonsai trees and this is a very handy thing to know if you're potting up pine species-it lifts the success rate greatly!
Cheers.

Jhikpghf

The tree can last for the winter without it, but it wont do very well without
Yes,pine trees have a dormancy period over Winter which causes the tree's sap flow to slow down.This triggers a state of semi-slumber and is why the tree/trees will survive the Winter period.
Come Spring,and without the addition of mycorrhiza to the soil,the tree's root system will be unable to break down and transfer those important soil nutriments and the tree/trees will slowly starve to death.
Just a few details for those who would like to understand the process a little better as it's very interesting stuff Cheer
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