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**Killbox13**

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Homelan...show=votes

Pi Infinity User ID: 3.14159265 08-22-2012 01:57 PM

Giving the name the "War of Northern Aggression" true meaning, once again. GJ DHS. GJ ATF. Scumbags.

**JBG** lop guest User ID: 12288 08-22-2012 02:04 PM

The signs really couldn't be any clearer as to what is being prepared.

Why Hollow Point Bullets?

After being bombarded with questions wanting to know why the feds are procuring stockpiles of ammo, their half-hearted excuses came down to needing this ammo for training and qualification purposes. That answer only raises more questions. Like, why does anyone need to practice or qualify with expensive "hollow point' rounds. Manufacturers make "practice' rounds that are considerably cheaper.

According to an article published by war decorated Army Major General Jerry Curry (Ret), the feds explanation about the bullets fails to pass the smell test. "Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war." Hollow point bullets don't just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body's organs. Death often follows. "Notice that all of these purchases are for the deadly hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting.

"This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes."

He goes on to write that" "In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls."

His final claim is food for thought "This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen."

General Curry raises 3 additional good points.

1. We have enough military forces to maintain law and order in the U.S. even during times of civil unrest. We have local police, backed up by each state's National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense.

2. In addition to all these forces, why does DHS need its own private army?

3. Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Homelan...show=votes

also..............Wargaming Termination of Tea Party Extremists
By Cameron Reddy

Our military planners are openly discussing how to kill "Tea Party extremists" wh

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/w...z24H9abtAL

and.....................August 21, 2012
Will Obama Keep Power 'by Any Means Necessary'?

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/w...z24H9zePXU

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 112086 08-22-2012 02:29 PM

JBG Wrote:

The signs really couldn't be any clearer as to what is being prepared.

Why Hollow Point Bullets?

After being bombarded with questions wanting to know why the feds are procuring stockpiles of ammo, their half-hearted excuses came down to needing this ammo for training and qualification purposes. That answer only raises more questions. Like, why does anyone need to practice or qualify with expensive "hollow point' rounds. Manufacturers make "practice' rounds that are considerably cheaper.

According to an article published by war decorated Army Major General Jerry Curry (Ret), the feds explanation about the bullets fails to pass the smell test. "Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war." Hollow point bullets don't just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body's organs. Death often follows. "Notice that all of these purchases are for the deadly hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting.

"This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes."

He goes on to write that" "In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls."

His final claim is food for thought "This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen."

General Curry raises 3 additional good points.

1. We have enough military forces to maintain law and order in the U.S. even during times of civil unrest. We have local police, backed up by each state's National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense.

2. In addition to all these forces, why does DHS need its own private army?

3. Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Homelan...show=votes

also..............Wargaming Termination of Tea Party Extremists
By Cameron Reddy

Our military planners are openly discussing how to kill "Tea Party extremists" wh

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/w...z24H9abtAL

and.....................August 21, 2012
Will Obama Keep Power 'by Any Means Necessary'?

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/w...z24H9zePXU

i can see your point, they are not made for anything else except total obliteration and intended for human.why now?

**steelwidow**

After reading the article cited in the OP's post a thought passed though my head... how will they know the difference between those uprising and those who are not uprising.... my own answer made me sick. They won't be able to tell because they won't care. All citizens will be considered enemies by the government. The war, once started, will be against everyone until there is no one left but those in the re-education camps. That is the point of buying the hollow point bullets. It won't matter if you live or die. Those left will be slaves to the NWO. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. I bet the borg never seen that coming...

**steelwidow**

**Nepher**

IMHO this idea that the the government will kill innocent civilians indiscriminately is retarded and repugnant. American troops/police/agents all have family and friends for god sakes! People are talking as if all these agents of the NWO are robotic killers with no emotions get a grip. This is just fearmongering due to the upcoming elections and financial crisis currently facing America. Level heads prevail lets get some clarity here.

I mean ok i agree its a little strange about the hollow points but to be honest 99% of the time if a person draws a gun on you they are prepared to kill you hollow point or not you will die so whats the difference? Not sure.

Peace Heartflowers

**entropy** · (This post was last modified: 08-22-2012 03:55 PM by entropy.)

If there was one it would be probable that most would play right in to it. Marching under the "cross" following the orders of the "rich" and thus enforcing the very status quo you claim to be against in your "NWO" cries.

**When History Repeats...** lop guest User ID: 94687 08-22-2012 03:59 PM

Nepher Wrote:

IMHO this idea that the the government will kill innocent civilians indiscriminately is retarded and repugnant. American troops/police/agents all have family and friends for god sakes! People are talking as if all these agents of the NWO are robotic killers with no emotions get a grip. This is just fearmongering due to the upcoming elections and financial crisis currently facing America. Level heads prevail lets get some clarity here.

I mean ok i agree its a little strange about the hollow points but to be honest 99% of the time if a person draws a gun on you they are prepared to kill you hollow point or not you will die so whats the difference? Not sure.

Peace

Because, unfortunately, it will be positioned (people will be programmed and conditioned) to believe it is a CIVIL war (of the races - The People against The People - as far as I can discern from their tactics) rather than a REVOLUTION against a tyrannical government.

See your "American Civil War" NON-REVISIONIST history for full details.

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**Anne O'Mally** · (This post was last modified: 08-22-2012 07:01 PM by Anne O'Mally.)

killbox, can you or anyone help me figure out how to track flight trainings and take-offs of fighter jets? i saw one this morning:

not sure how much you know about this stuff but that fighter jet i saw heading south east was followed by about 8 more similar sounding flights, but further west so i didn't get a look. trying to get a flight path map for portland international airport, and did find the ANG info out of pdx.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_In...al_Airport

The Oregon Air National Guard has a base located on the southwest portion of the grounds, the host unit of which is the 142d Fighter Wing (142 FW) flying the F-15 Eagle.

this is definitely what i saw:

http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/aug/0...oud-proud/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15_Eagle

however, if you read the article, their training flights head north, not south east, over vancouver WA...but that was last years' article.

this stuff is fascinating to me but i don't know how to research it, proper key words. not getting anything for training flight schedules. i'm all about figuring this stuff out before getting alarmed. any tips on how to look for this info?

**Anne O'Mally**

encephaloid Wrote:

If there was one it would be probable that most would play right in to it. Marching under the "cross" following the orders of the "rich" and thus enforcing the very status quo you claim to be against in your "NWO" cries.

ACK, ACK!!!!

**Anne O'Mally** · (This post was last modified: 08-22-2012 07:27 PM by Anne O'Mally.)

oooo, live flight tracking!

http://flightaware.com/

doesn't show fighter jets tho.

**Anne O'Mally**

well apparently this thread has been abandoned. in the meantime, i figured out a ton of stuff for myself so thanks for all the fish. :)

**crawgator406**

Nepher Wrote:

IMHO this idea that the the government will kill innocent civilians indiscriminately is retarded and repugnant. American troops/police/agents all have family and friends for god sakes! People are talking as if all these agents of the NWO are robotic killers with no emotions get a grip. This is just fearmongering due to the upcoming elections and financial crisis currently facing America. Level heads prevail lets get some clarity here.

I mean ok i agree its a little strange about the hollow points but to be honest 99% of the time if a person draws a gun on you they are prepared to kill you hollow point or not you will die so whats the difference? Not sure.

Peace

they are going to collapse the financial system, social sercurity administration will cut off all disability check, social security checks,
and any other forms of income. welfare will be cut off too and freeze of the financial market to a collapse. if u like to eat you better stockup now or be able to hunt.

**Killbox13**

Nepher Wrote:

IMHO this idea that the the government will kill innocent civilians indiscriminately is retarded and repugnant. American troops/police/agents all have family and friends for god sakes! People are talking as if all these agents of the NWO are robotic killers with no emotions get a grip. This is just fearmongering due to the upcoming elections and financial crisis currently facing America. Level heads prevail lets get some clarity here.

I mean ok i agree its a little strange about the hollow points but to be honest 99% of the time if a person draws a gun on you they are prepared to kill you hollow point or not you will die so whats the difference? Not sure.

Peace

The Nazis did it and they had families. Police are already being conditioned under the farce of DUI check points.

What I don't understand is why the article mentions the Tea Party but not the Occupy Movement which seems to be much more radical.

sorry, I don't know how to research military flight training. My first move ,if I wanted too, would be to contact the military or the particular base you want to research. Under the Freedom of info act they must issue a response even if the response is just to say that they will not give you the info. If that is the case then document their movements and schedule on your own and throw your findings on the web