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Rapists Can Sue For Custody and Visitation Rights in 31 States
Zardoz
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Rapists Can Sue For Custody and Visitation Rights in 31 States
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Number of States in Which Rapists Can Sue
For Custody and Visitation Rights -- 31 --

For months now we've been subjected to surreal revelations when it comes to what people think about rape. Here is some real, fact-checked information.


Remember facts? Remember facts about rape? Because it turns out that a whole lot of people know less than nothing about the subject. Indeed what they think they know is a whole lot of something that is wrong and dangerous to our heath, safety and well-being. Republican Representative Richard Mourdock's recent "misspeaking" is unexceptional. Despite what he may have meant when he said "even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape that... is something God intended to happen," he is unexceptional. He's not an outlier. Not a radical. In no substantive way different from his conservative peers in this regard (see below if you disagree). Indeed, he and others, like Todd Akin and Paul Ryan, are part of an age-old tradition of men with power defining when women are raped. And others who enable them to do it for their own gain. But, they are not just the Republican party's legislative norm, they are a fair reflection of our cultural tolerance, one without party affiliation, for rape and its qualifications. For months now we've been subjected to surreal revelation when it comes to what people think and understand about rape, god and women's magical bodies. Here is some real, fact-checked information from a list originally published last week in RHRealityCheck. And this is trigger warning. You may want a strong cup of coffee. Or a drink. Or an empty stomach. There is nothing remotely divine about rape. But steeping our selves in denial or happy oblivion is hurting too many people and has the potential to hurt a lot more.

Continued:
http://www.alternet.org/gender/number-st...paging=off

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10-29-2012 11:50 AM

 



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RE: Rapists Can Sue For Custody and Visitation Rights in 31 States
not if it is aborted! But maybe the mothers/victims can save the aborted fetus and then there can be a custody battle over the fetus.

Hate to say it, but if the mother can sue for child support, then the father should be able to sue for visitation and custody.
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Zardoz
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10-29-2012 11:51 AM

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Quote:7. Number of states in which rapists can sue for custody and visitation: 31

10. A woman's chance of being raped in college: 1 in 4 or 5

11. Chances that a Native American woman in the U.S. will be raped: 1 in 3


12. Percentage of women in Alaska who have suffered sexual assault: 37 percent

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Zardoz
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-29-2012 11:50 AM)
not if it is aborted! But maybe the mothers/victims can save the aborted fetus and then there can be a custody battle over the fetus.

Hate to say it, but if the mother can sue for child support, then the father should be able to sue for visitation and custody.

Read the list at the link. They're making a point. They want to make abortion illegal because "it's God's will" women get pregnant from rape. I don't think a woman can sue her rapist for child support. If her rapist was Paul Ryan, maybe.....many rapists aren't caught.

Serial rapists who use physical violence rape tens, hundreds of women before they're caught - if they are ever caught. I guess they're like our politicians. chuckle They get off on screwing everyone against their will.

So, if I'm some psycho obsessed with a woman, all I'd have to do is rape her and git her knocked up in order to weasel my way into her life for 20 years?! Wow! She'd be forced to see me and share her life with me because I forced her to bear a child. Do I get a title for the woman (like a car)? How can I prove ownership?
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Vlad
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It´s a huge problem for sure, you should think modern times redused the tendency but it´s getting worceSrjceahd

I´m a wild bat out of hell, but never ever even considered takeing what´s not mine to take.
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Rape, between people who know each is other, can be problematic to prove. I think that is one of the main reasons for this dilemma. The he said/she said kind of rape is interpreted differently than the perfect stranger kind of rape. Many people will make up a story. That's why there should be definitive evidence of the raped person resisting because too many people who did not rape are falsely accused.
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Zardoz
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-29-2012 12:02 PM)
Rape, between people who know each is other, can be problematic to prove. I think that is one of the main reasons for this dilemma. The he said/she said kind of rape is interpreted differently than the perfect stranger kind of rape. Many people will make up a story. That's why there should be definitive evidence of the raped person resisting because too many people who did not rape are falsely accused.

It's not interpreted differently by the law.
Quote:48. State where in 2012 a doctor is facing the loss of her medical license for providing an abortion to a pregnant10-year old incest rape victim: Kansas

50. Country where major party's vice-presidential candidate wants to criminalize all abortions including rape-related ones, because rape is just "another method of conception": U.S.

As fascinating as the opinions are that came to your mind when you read the title of the post.......it would be far more interesting if you read the post (at the link) before espousing your wisdom. Is that too much to ask?

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Rapists should be killed on spot.

IDK why this isn't done more often because it just seems like the logical response. One sick mutt is off the streets, tens to hundreds of women/children are saved, tax dollars are saved from prison and court costs, every victim is avenged.

But of course, our modern world hates common sense..
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jadksn  Wrote: (10-29-2012 12:59 PM)
Rapists should be killed on spot.

IDK why this isn't done more often because it just seems like the logical response. One sick mutt is off the streets, tens to hundreds of women/children are saved, tax dollars are saved from prison and court costs, every victim is avenged.

But of course, our modern world hates common sense..

Aileen Wurnos was right......

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RE: Rapists Can Sue For Custody and Visitation Rights in 31 States
jadksn  Wrote: (10-29-2012 12:59 PM)
Rapists should be killed on spot.

IDK why this isn't done more often because it just seems like the logical response. One sick mutt is off the streets, tens to hundreds of women/children are saved, tax dollars are saved from prison and court costs, every victim is avenged.

But of course, our modern world hates common sense..

You are indeed "Best Tin Foil Hat Winner" as your subtitle suggests Jhikpghf Although anyone with decency would know this fact anyway.

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The wind for blowing it away,
Or the leaf that got tired of holding on?
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RE: Rapists Can Sue For Custody and Visitation Rights in 31 States
Zardoz  Wrote: (10-29-2012 01:02 PM)
jadksn  Wrote: (10-29-2012 12:59 PM)
Rapists should be killed on spot.

IDK why this isn't done more often because it just seems like the logical response. One sick mutt is off the streets, tens to hundreds of women/children are saved, tax dollars are saved from prison and court costs, every victim is avenged.

But of course, our modern world hates common sense..

Aileen Wurnos was right......

The serial killer? What do you mean?
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RE: Rapists Can Sue For Custody and Visitation Rights in 31 States
Zardoz  Wrote: (10-29-2012 01:02 PM)
jadksn  Wrote: (10-29-2012 12:59 PM)
Rapists should be killed on spot.

IDK why this isn't done more often because it just seems like the logical response. One sick mutt is off the streets, tens to hundreds of women/children are saved, tax dollars are saved from prison and court costs, every victim is avenged.

But of course, our modern world hates common sense..

Aileen Wurnos was right......

She had one of the hardest lives, I dont know how else she could have lived her life. Its like it was either fight or give up and die for her.. she was broken from the start.

There is what people say, you're just as brutal for wanting to kill someone as the person you want to kill but that's why the theory of Ethics is so hard to define, even the word ethics itself...

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The wind for blowing it away,
Or the leaf that got tired of holding on?
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RE: Rapists Can Sue For Custody and Visitation Rights in 31 States
evilolive  Wrote: (10-29-2012 01:09 PM)
Zardoz  Wrote: (10-29-2012 01:02 PM)
jadksn  Wrote: (10-29-2012 12:59 PM)
Rapists should be killed on spot.

IDK why this isn't done more often because it just seems like the logical response. One sick mutt is off the streets, tens to hundreds of women/children are saved, tax dollars are saved from prison and court costs, every victim is avenged.

But of course, our modern world hates common sense..

Aileen Wurnos was right......

She had one of the hardest lives, I dont know how else she could have lived her life. Its like it was either fight or give up and die for her.. she was broken from the start.

There is what people say, you're just as brutal for wanting to kill someone as the person you want to kill but that's why the theory of Ethics is so hard to define, even the word ethics itself...

Well, there's a problem with moral relativism. There's no ifs-ands-or-buts about rape, it just is.
There are many situations in which I could find a way to justify murder, but rape...
You can never rehabilitate a rapist.
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I dont get the point of this thread besides to create another social rift..



Of course you can sue, anybody can sue for anything..

You can sue the Chinese government to make them recognize that all the children that were born on this day are all your children and that you request the court to have every child named Ziphead.
Even show just cause that you made a tour through their country nine months ago and that you would also like for them to have duel citizenship.

doesn't mean it will get granted and the persona starting the frivolous lawsuit is due all legal fees.

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Does anyone honestly think a judge for even one second is going to grant a request if there were rape charges filed?

If there were no charges filed then every woman can claimed they were raped.

There is a legal precedence for this already..

Public Opinion isn't going to make a bit of difference in this.

Even if there was a law written it wont past muster unless it complies with the legal precedences already set.

What exactly could be legislated anyway? that a woman can declare rape when she goes to get benefits?
I have an answer for you, they already ask.

In fact they ask who and how many the mother believes may be the father, She can name 20 guys if she chooses and say it was rape for all of them.

No defense lawyer would EVER pass up the chance for a Rape defense to deny such a thing And no lawyer for the state would pass up the chance to collect from the father.

Neither would any of them fail to ask.


So I ask again, what is the point of this article?
Except to cause even more division and a scar ...
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evilolive  Wrote: (10-29-2012 01:09 PM)
Zardoz  Wrote: (10-29-2012 01:02 PM)
jadksn  Wrote: (10-29-2012 12:59 PM)
Rapists should be killed on spot.

IDK why this isn't done more often because it just seems like the logical response. One sick mutt is off the streets, tens to hundreds of women/children are saved, tax dollars are saved from prison and court costs, every victim is avenged.

But of course, our modern world hates common sense..

Aileen Wurnos was right......

She had one of the hardest lives, I dont know how else she could have lived her life. Its like it was either fight or give up and die for her.. she was broken from the start.

There is what people say, you're just as brutal for wanting to kill someone as the person you want to kill but that's why the theory of Ethics is so hard to define, even the word ethics itself...

That is wise words for sureHugs
Nothing beats sending em to the nuthouse, or put some Ladyboys on em, same thing though from my little experiencechuckle
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