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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 83381 08-18-2012 10:26 AM

Dr. David Janda explains Rationing in Health Care Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf23d9FS7...plpp_video

**dolphin** · (This post was last modified: 08-18-2012 10:42 AM by dolphin.)

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I think it is important to explain to Gay People, Straight People, Liberals, and Conservatives why it is they are going to be allowed to die when they might otherwise survive with proper treatment.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 115359 08-18-2012 11:19 AM

Needs to be Pinned.......

**dolphin** · (This post was last modified: 08-18-2012 11:34 AM by dolphin.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

Needs to be Pinned.......

I often see some pretty trivial and dumb things pinned sometimes.

Other times I see what are obvious bullshit conspiracy pieces pinned.

Then information like this which is not an exageration, or a conspiracy at all, but is in fact a very real life and death issue important to everyone of us get ignored.

I have come to the conclusion that the forum and the moderators have an agenda to push the popularity of certain posters and ignore everyone else no matter how important the information is. One of the ways they do that is pin posts by certain posters. The merit of the topic is always a secondary consideration. Who the OP is has top priority in determining if something gets pinned unless the topic is of particular interest to the mod who pins it.

As a for instance the thread below with the link is right now pinned, yet I know for a fact I have posted that information more than once at LOP and it was never pinned.

War is a Racket by Major General Smedley Butler
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-War-is-a...ley-Butler

I am not suggesting it is a premeditated policy, but it is certainly the way it works in practice.

**Tune 440** · **Tune 440** Guitarissimo User ID: 115104 08-18-2012 11:40 AM **Posts: 1,982**

There is a lot worse rationing of healthcare already going on, right now.

So long as an insurance company makes more money by not covering people that by treating them it will always be so.

You want to see death panels? Look at Aetna, Blue Cross and the rest.

Then there are those who work for a living but un-able to get insurance at all.

Not for themselves or their families.

Are the lives of their families worth less than that of the 1% ?

But we don't have rationing?

Bullshit!

**Luvapottamus**

Tune 440 Wrote:

There is a lot worse rationing of healthcare already going on, right now.

So long as an insurance company makes more money by not covering people that by treating them it will always be so.

You want to see death panels? Look at Aetna, Blue Cross and the rest.

Then there are those who work for a living but un-able to get insurance at all.

Not for themselves or their families.

Are the lives of their families worth less than that of the 1% ?

But we don't have rationing?

Bullshit!

Rationing isn't bad when dumbocrats do it.

No matter how much worse it is.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 71698 08-18-2012 02:32 PM

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111211 08-18-2012 02:42 PM

This video shows that your country is run by goddam nazi's, you dumb ass ameicans let it happen , so meet your fate. Have fun with your DEATH PANLES.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 115318 08-18-2012 02:55 PM

Tune 440 Wrote:

There is a lot worse rationing of healthcare already going on, right now.

So long as an insurance company makes more money by not covering people that by treating them it will always be so.

You want to see death panels? Look at Aetna, Blue Cross and the rest.

Then there are those who work for a living but un-able to get insurance at all.

Not for themselves or their families.

Are the lives of their families worth less than that of the 1% ?

But we don't have rationing?

Bullshit!

Correct. PBN is a right wing whackjob organization.

**Whimszy**

This health care scares me. I have a handicapped nephew (blind and partially paralyzed) from surgery to remove brain tumors as an infant. He is unable to function normally in society. What happens to kids like him? My mother just turned 70 and had open-heart surgery, would they have allowed that under the new law? How are they going to pay for it? Will they reduce the quality of care and life saving interventions? Is this how they reduce the population in America?
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**Kanigo2** lop guest User ID: 97971 08-18-2012 03:32 PM

Simple

Obvious

Move.

The only thing that could possibly make this better is having absolutely no recourse. Jhikpghf

Oh, never mind.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 115318 08-18-2012 03:36 PM

Whimszy Wrote:

This health care scares me. I have a handicapped nephew (blind and partially paralyzed) from surgery to remove brain tumors as an infant. He is unable to function normally in society. What happens to kids like him? My mother just turned 70 and had open-heart surgery, would they have allowed that under the new law? How are they going to pay for it? Will they reduce the quality of care and life saving interventions? Is this how they reduce the population in America?

How do they survive now? A lot of these scare tactics are just that.

**Killbox13**

thanks liberals for being so humane

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 84366 08-18-2012 05:35 PM

Whimszy Wrote:

This health care scares me. I have a handicapped nephew (blind and partially paralyzed) from surgery to remove brain tumors as an infant. He is unable to function normally in society. What happens to kids like him? My mother just turned 70 and had open-heart surgery, would they have allowed that under the new law? How are they going to pay for it? Will they reduce the quality of care and life saving interventions? Is this how they reduce the population in America?

Yeah, you should be scared. Our "leaders" don't give a shit about us. Seriously, the politicians and the elite could put all three of you in front of a firing squad if they had to and would not think twice about it. They are monsters. What they have in store for us aint gonna be pretty.

**It's Hot Here**

dolphin Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Needs to be Pinned.......

I often see some pretty trivial and dumb things pinned sometimes.

Other times I see what are obvious bullshit conspiracy pieces pinned.

Then information like this which is not an exageration, or a conspiracy at all, but is in fact a very real life and death issue important to everyone of us get ignored.

I have come to the conclusion that the forum and the moderators have an agenda to push the popularity of certain posters and ignore everyone else no matter how important the information is. One of the ways they do that is pin posts by certain posters. The merit of the topic is always a secondary consideration. Who the OP is has top priority in determining if something gets pinned unless the topic is of particular interest to the mod who pins it.

As a for instance the thread below with the link is right now pinned, yet I know for a fact I have posted that information more than once at LOP and it was never pinned.

War is a Racket by Major General Smedley Butler
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-War-is-a...ley-Butler

I am not suggesting it is a premeditated policy, but it is certainly the way it works in practice.

Dolphin, shit happen, I can't tell you how many times I've seen the same info pinned that was there three days prior. As for the libs, they won't believe anything you tell them about the HC law, to them it's free and it guarantees everyone one free unicorn...if its in there it's true.