Post: #1

I believe God gave mankind everything they asked for. At first mankind, Adam and Eve could do anything they wanted to, except one thing. That betrayal lead to punishment. then mankind didnt stop we continued to betray the Lord, Cain murdered Able, Sodom was wicked, etc etc. I don't believe that God wanted us to sacrifice animals, but it was a punishment from our own actions, sins. Sin can not be in the presence of the Lord, sacrifices probably had some kinda way of removing sin. Jesus was the final sacrifice...

If we could follow simple commandments the world would be a peaceful place. Do you lie, steal, sex before marriage etc?? i know i do,did... by partaking in these sins for so long we are in the world we have asked to be in. God is about love and freewill. To me we are asking God to leave us alone and to just let the Devil watch over us.

I asked myself "why does God said people to Hell." I prayed and started to realize how simple it was. God created Hell for the Devil and the fallen angels. They basically started a war with God in heaven. until they are cast to heaven they are literally at war with each other. Read the book of Daniel.

Daniel 10: 12 Then he said to me, “Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words. 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia. 14 Now I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come.”

Daniel was in prison for 21 days. He was praying for help to understand a dream he had. The arch angel micheal appeared to him after 21 days. Micheal basically said sorry i took so long, i was in battle with satan's entire army just to speak to you.
I think this explains alot. The spiritual life is something we can't even begin to understand.

Normally angels look peaceful. Most visions of mary, Jesus and angels are white glowing angels. In Revelation Jesus returns with eyes of fire and a double edged sword coming from his mouth. look at how Daniel described the appearance of Micheal.

Daniel 10: 6 His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude.

His face was lightning! that's bad ass...This makes it even more obvious he was in battle with satan's army. otherwise he wouldn't be so angry looking. Micheal was very peaceful in his words to Daniel but was pissed off looking :P

My point is rather simple. Hell is for the Devil and his demons. They started a war with God. Do humans not want people like Hitler to go to Hell for his actions?? When a man starts a war with mankind we expect great eternal punishment for crimes against mankind. So when mankind decides to play with the Devil, never repent and sin against God, he ends up exactly where he asked to go. If you reject Jesus, you are asking him to leave you alone, to stay out of your life. when you die why would he make you live with him. You proved you don't like him. This is why he says in revelation to the lukewarms christians, i never knew you.
Jesus doesn't hate them for never repenting, he just says who are you?? go with your leader like you want to.

unfortunately the devils home is in hell. If we live a life in sin without ever asking for forgiveness we are letting the devil lead us. Leaders are followed, and his home is in hell.

Post: #2

PeeDee  Wrote:

I believe God gave mankind everything they asked for. At first mankind, Adam and Eve could do anything they wanted to, except one thing. That betrayal lead to punishment. then mankind didnt stop we continued to betray the Lord, Cain murdered Able, Sodom was wicked, etc etc. I don't believe that God wanted us to sacrifice animals, but it was a punishment from our own actions, sins. Sin can not be in the presence of the Lord, sacrifices probably had some kinda way of removing sin. Jesus was the final sacrifice...

If we could follow simple commandments the world would be a peaceful place. Do you lie, steal, sex before marriage etc?? i know i do,did... by partaking in these sins for so long we are in the world we have asked to be in. God is about love and freewill. To me we are asking God to leave us alone and to just let the Devil watch over us.

I asked myself "why does God said people to Hell." I prayed and started to realize how simple it was. God created Hell for the Devil and the fallen angels. They basically started a war with God in heaven. until they are cast to heaven they are literally at war with each other. Read the book of Daniel.

Daniel 10: 12 Then he said to me, “Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words. 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia. 14 Now I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come.”

Daniel was in prison for 21 days. He was praying for help to understand a dream he had. The arch angel micheal appeared to him after 21 days. Micheal basically said sorry i took so long, i was in battle with satan's entire army just to speak to you.
I think this explains alot. The spiritual life is something we can't even begin to understand.

Normally angels look peaceful. Most visions of mary, Jesus and angels are white glowing angels. In Revelation Jesus returns with eyes of fire and a double edged sword coming from his mouth. look at how Daniel described the appearance of Micheal.

Daniel 10: 6 His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude.

His face was lightning! that's bad ass...This makes it even more obvious he was in battle with satan's army. otherwise he wouldn't be so angry looking. Micheal was very peaceful in his words to Daniel but was pissed off looking :P

My point is rather simple. Hell is for the Devil and his demons. They started a war with God. Do humans not want people like Hitler to go to Hell for his actions?

What did he do?

Post: #3

While the long sermon was nice I was more looking for a list of reasons people go to hell :)

Post: #4

I like shrimp

Post: #5

so who is the angel of persia...

also silly new agers and christians notice michael is only the angel of da jewz.

Post: #6

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I like shrimp

You're going to HELL!

Post: #7

LoP Guest  Wrote:

While the long sermon was nice I was more looking for a list of reasons people go to hell :)

I believe sodomy, heresy and dislocating retail mattress tags are among those.

Post: #8

Hitler did nothing wrong.

Post: #9

sounds like daniel had an obe, he was smoking that shit in babylon

Post: #10

Kanigo2  Wrote:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

I beg to differ.

He started a two-front war by attacking Russia which in retrospect was a huge military blunder.

Post: #11

Ozymandias  Wrote:

Kanigo2  Wrote:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

I beg to differ.

He started a two-front war by attacking Russia which in retrospect was a huge military blunder.

he was smoking that shit too, which probably influenced his military decisions.

Post: #12

sia  Wrote:

Ozymandias  Wrote:

Kanigo2  Wrote:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

I beg to differ.

He started a two-front war by attacking Russia which in retrospect was a huge military blunder.

he was smoking that shit too, which probably influenced his military decisions.

Hell, if only he could have attended the Yalta conference too and the four of them could have passed a cone until Churchill got up and started lap-dancing around Roosevelt.

Can you imagine the world today?

Post: #13

Kanigo2  Wrote:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

this seems like it fits right in here. this is why you should know what you're talking about when debating an atheist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeE49cWbAKY

Post: #14

Pi  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I like shrimp

You're going to HELL!

Post: #15

Ozymandias  Wrote:

sia  Wrote:

Ozymandias  Wrote:

I beg to differ.

He started a two-front war by attacking Russia which in retrospect was a huge military blunder.

he was smoking that shit too, which probably influenced his military decisions.

Hell, if only he could have attended the Yalta conference too and the four of them could have passed a cone until Churchill got up and started lap-dancing around Roosevelt.

Can you imagine the world today?

Notice, Roosevelt is the only one not covering his genitalia.