LoP Guest Wrote: (04-19-2012 11:01 PM)
Yes - but any nice stuff is reserved solely for other MUSLIMS only! - most of the writings of islam are concerned with the WAR against non-believers, infidels, kaffirs, polytheists, jews etc - who in the end are required to submit to islam or die!!!
Islam denies it's victims all of the essential human rights - upon pain of death and is commited to deny those to the rest of the human race at the earliest possible opportunity!
If you cannot recognise this as a thoroughly evil ideology - there is something seriously wrong with you!
It isn't true that the nice stuff is reserved only for muslims. The Qur'an firstly specifies that Islam is a very simple concept, and that even people from other religions in the past could very well have been muslims and achieved paradise.
Then, if you've read the Qur'an, you'll see the focus isn't mostly on war at all, and war isn't mentioned as much as other things, those war verses were specifically during the time of war where the people were being attacked and it specifies that as well and even encourages accepting peace treaties and cease fires and stuff.
In any case though, the Qur'an clearly suggests human rights for all, since it mostly has the modern concept of "your way to you, my way to me" and "ignore/tolerate people" and stuff like that.
I'm serious, it is throughout the Qur'an to ignore and tolerate and be peaceful with the disbelievers no matter how vile they are, it is only if they attack that you can defend yourself. There is a whole prayer or saying in the Qur'an about "your way to you, my way to me", check it out:
(Chapter 109 of the Qur'an)
Say: ´Kafirun (disbelievers)
I do not worship what you worship
and you do not worship what I worship.
Nor will I worship what you worship
nor will you worship what I worship.
You have your system(deen) and I have my system(deen).´
The Qur'an also says that all people are equal, and the best people are those who do good things.
Muslim just means one who performs Islam, and Islam means surrender (and acceptance of God).
The Qur'an prescribes ignoring disbelievers and letting them continue in their ways as long as they don't harm and physically attack muslims, in that case self defense is allowed, but one is not allowed to attack people just for fun.
The Qur'an says:
"There is no compulsion in religion.
The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower. "
One is not allowed to force religion on anyone, so if muslims do this, just point this verse out to them and remind them.
The Qur'an further makes it clear that a disbeliever can never become a believer, that warning them or warning them not is the same, it doesn't matter.
It is actually within the first few words of the Qur'an in chapter 2 (which is really like the first chapter since it comes after the Al Fatihah prayer at the start which is only 7 verses and considered chapter 1).
As for the Disbelievers, Whether you warn them or you warn them not...it is all one for them; they do not believe.
It also says this in 36:10
So it gives the impression that trying to convert people is not only wrong, but hopeless as well if they insist on disbelief.
On the other hand though, it says to make the message freely available and to tell the truth and speak justice and all that.
Those who believe (this revelation), and those who are Jews, and the Sabaeans and the Christians and the Magians and the idolaters - Lo! Allah will decide between them on the Day of Resurrection. Allah is Witness over all things.
Basically, the Qur'an always directs people towards the eventual Judgment Day or Justice Day, where all matters will be resolved correctly.
Those who believe (in this revelation), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does right - surely their reward is with their Lord
, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.
it says this in 5:69 too.
So that is the Qur'anic perspective.
Islam is simply monotheism + good deeds. It is about worshiping God in the ancient fashion that was practiced by more than just arabs and jewish people and Christians, and about doing good, it is very simple really, I haven't found much Satanic seeming stuff in it at all, it is extensively against Satan and Satanic things.