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Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 92860 04-26-2012 09:42 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
Ive learned to ignore posts from you but a feel a tinge of sorrow for you today...read the link. No snippet so sorry. Or go visit a benjamin fulford thread or post some cute lil kitten pics sumwhere
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 54743 04-26-2012 09:46 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
Controlled opposition and gold buying and hoarding by the elite while the poor get stuck with fiat currency
Two way you can fight back against the oligarchs
1. Invest in real assets, like gold, silver, and other precious metals
2. stop investing in their empire corporations
their system of control is failing because people are waking up to their illusion of a free marketplace
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-26-2012 09:52 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
LoP Guest Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
ron paul and a commodity-backed, congress-run currency
vs
whiny, incoherent bullshit
I actually disagree with Ron on that, too bad OP didn't argue it.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-26-2012 09:53 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
LoP Guest Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
Ive learned to ignore posts from you but a feel a tinge of sorrow for you today...read the link. No snippet so sorry. Or go visit a benjamin fulford thread or post some cute lil kitten pics sumwhere
I don't like the Gold standard. Bet I can make a better case against it than you can.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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Pi lop guest User ID: 92869 04-26-2012 10:02 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Luvapottamus Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
Ive learned to ignore posts from you but a feel a tinge of sorrow for you today...read the link. No snippet so sorry. Or go visit a benjamin fulford thread or post some cute lil kitten pics sumwhere
I don't like the Gold standard. Bet I can make a better case against it than you can.

Im sure you can armchair quarterback that you are...this thread, to me, is about Ron Paul being part of the illuminatis game plan for achieving their NWO...
You wanna boast of your worldy intelligence, go right ahead...
try to sniff out deception, when I can, and sounding the alarm. You, and others, would love for this thread to devolve into an endless economic debate. That serves the agenda of the mystery schools...
But please dazzle us with your brilliance!!!
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Arch Phoenix Protean deusdaemon planos Terras lar User ID: 14843 04-26-2012 10:05 PM
Posts: 17,112
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Luvapottamus Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
Ive learned to ignore posts from you but a feel a tinge of sorrow for you today...read the link. No snippet so sorry. Or go visit a benjamin fulford thread or post some cute lil kitten pics sumwhere
I don't like the Gold standard. Bet I can make a better case against it than you can.

The Paulites still dont get that ROn Paul cant do anything without congress,and that all he proposes, would make corporations much stronger.
We actually have a real life example of ROn Pauls ideas: Gulf catastrophy 2010.
Obama didnt do anything and left BP in charge! What did they do? Cheap solution with monstrous cover up and the didnt pay a fraction of what they destroyed.
Thats Ron Pauls world, let the free market sort it out and let corporations take care of their mess.
Dont you think a lot of people sued BP? And see what happened! NOTHING. Wake up from your libertarian Bullshit and smell the grip of corporations who would crush you in a free market.
Protean Deus Daemon Lar Phoenix.
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-26-2012 10:05 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
LoP Guest Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
Controlled opposition and gold buying and hoarding by the elite while the poor get stuck with fiat currency
Two way you can fight back against the oligarchs
1. Invest in real assets, like gold, silver, and other precious metals
2. stop investing in their empire corporations
their system of control is failing because people are waking up to their illusion of a free marketplace
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with a FIAT currency.
The problem with the gold standard besides the fact FT. Knox is probably empty, and what the FED is holding is largely foreign, is that that always becomes a basis for fractional reserve lending that banks can use to threaten governments.
Loosen the lending, you create a boom. Tighten the lending, you create a depression.
Tht's how they harvest our wealth, and get congress to do their bidding(along with bribes)
The problem with a paper standard is congress is tempted to spend more than they have every election cycle to please their constituents.
But that's really the only problem with a FIAT currency.
Silver is a good middle ground because it has value and isn't completely impractical for carrying around, but it isn't necessary.
What's necessary is that money become a public utility not a private control mechanism.
Should I go on?
I'm happy to talk about this if it's not a Ron Paul SUPPORTER bash-fest.
Bash Ron's ideas all you like, but if you want to prove he's part of the conspiracy, please provide some evidense instead of attacking ME.
I don't agree with him on everything.
I'm happy to discuss a better solution for the monetary and banking solutions too.
I can go on, want me to? Or do you just want to call me names?
Tally Sticks next if you want to hear about it.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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Arch Phoenix Protean deusdaemon planos Terras lar User ID: 14843 04-26-2012 10:07 PM
Posts: 17,112
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Pi Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Ive learned to ignore posts from you but a feel a tinge of sorrow for you today...read the link. No snippet so sorry. Or go visit a benjamin fulford thread or post some cute lil kitten pics sumwhere
I don't like the Gold standard. Bet I can make a better case against it than you can.

Im sure you can armchair quarterback that you are...this thread, to me, is about Ron Paul being part of the illuminatis game plan for achieving their NWO...
You wanna boast of your worldy intelligence, go right ahead...
try to sniff out deception, when I can, and sounding the alarm. You, and others, would love for this thread to devolve into an endless economic debate. That serves the agenda of the mystery schools...
But please dazzle us with your brilliance!!!
He is pro corporation , thats enough to not vote for him.
He also is pro industial revolution sttyle work conditions and a charity based healthcare system :jptdknpa:That alone is so much fail..
he is AGAINST the separation of church and state and is a creationist.
Protean Deus Daemon Lar Phoenix.
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-26-2012 10:08 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Pi Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Ive learned to ignore posts from you but a feel a tinge of sorrow for you today...read the link. No snippet so sorry. Or go visit a benjamin fulford thread or post some cute lil kitten pics sumwhere
I don't like the Gold standard. Bet I can make a better case against it than you can.

Im sure you can armchair quarterback that you are...this thread, to me, is about Ron Paul being part of the illuminatis game plan for achieving their NWO...
You wanna boast of your worldy intelligence, go right ahead...
try to sniff out deception, when I can, and sounding the alarm. You, and others, would love for this thread to devolve into an endless economic debate. That serves the agenda of the mystery schools...
But please dazzle us with your brilliance!!!
Okay let's talk about masons. Why don't you start by at least telling us what Ron belongs to, and take it from there.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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The Evil AC I am not a number!!! User ID: 666 04-26-2012 10:11 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Luvapottamus Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:What's this thread about anyway?
Controlled opposition and gold buying and hoarding by the elite while the poor get stuck with fiat currency
Two way you can fight back against the oligarchs
1. Invest in real assets, like gold, silver, and other precious metals
2. stop investing in their empire corporations
their system of control is failing because people are waking up to their illusion of a free marketplace
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with a FIAT currency.
The problem with the gold standard besides the fact FT. Knox is probably empty, and what the FED is holding is largely foreign, is that that always becomes a basis for fractional reserve lending that banks can use to threaten governments.
Loosen the lending, you create a boom. Tighten the lending, you create a depression.
Tht's how they harvest our wealth, and get congress to do their bidding(along with bribes)
The problem with a paper standard is congress is tempted to spend more than they have every election cycle to please their constituents.
But that's really the only problem with a FIAT currency.
Silver is a good middle ground because it has value and isn't completely impractical for carrying around, but it isn't necessary.
What's necessary is that money become a public utility not a private control mechanism.
Should I go on?
I'm happy to talk about this if it's not a Ron Paul SUPPORTER bash-fest.
Bash Ron's ideas all you like, but if you want to prove he's part of the conspiracy, please provide some evidense instead of attacking ME.
I don't agree with him on everything.
I'm happy to discuss a better solution for the monetary and banking solutions too.
I can go on, want me to? Or do you just want to call me names?
Tally Sticks next if you want to hear about it.
The only way to win the game is not to play it.
Only if the population would elect someone who is not affililated in anyway with the dem or rep party and isnt a carreer politician AND has his own stuff, not the stuff 4 presidents had before , maybe then you can break out of it.
But Ron Paul is just another puppet,working for a party with the same advisers and stuff.
Paulites always cry about zionism but ignore the ZIONISTS in Ron Pauls inner circle.
Peter Schiff for example.
And then we have his Super Pac-man Gary Franchi
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Pi lop guest User ID: 92871 04-26-2012 10:18 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Luvapottamus Wrote:Pi Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:I don't like the Gold standard. Bet I can make a better case against it than you can.

Im sure you can armchair quarterback that you are...this thread, to me, is about Ron Paul being part of the illuminatis game plan for achieving their NWO...
You wanna boast of your worldy intelligence, go right ahead...
try to sniff out deception, when I can, and sounding the alarm. You, and others, would love for this thread to devolve into an endless economic debate. That serves the agenda of the mystery schools...
But please dazzle us with your brilliance!!!
Okay let's talk about masons. Why don't you start by at least telling us what Ron belongs to, and take it from there.
Vast subject matter.
You should start with the original link...
That would be respectful when trying to derail this thread and exalt your massive IQ
As far as Pauls masonic affiliation it has remained elusive for those of us that believe he is controlled opposition.
Besides his affiliation with John Birch Society and Lamda Chi Alpha there is no concrete lodge affiliation.
Its touched on in the link provided.
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Astrochik seeking the truth - good or bad User ID: 91584 04-26-2012 10:24 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Pi Wrote:Astrochik Wrote:Pi Wrote:Henry Makows an asshole for posting someone elses view?!? LMAO
Im a turd cause you get pwned ?!?
Who do I suggest? LOL thats what WE are trying to tell you naive Amerikans....we've been soldout! There is no alternative. Move to Uruguay is what I suggest.:)
Makow is an asshole for myriad reasons.
You're a turd for your own reasons...aind responsible for your own turd-hood.
You are a rude AC who just slings shit and offers no useful suggestions.
Ya know ya hit a chord when the usually sweet astrochik pulls the claws out and resorts to name calling...LOL
I would venture youre a jeff rense fan and thats why u dont care for makow....your loss in the end....
B.t.w. My suggestion is to move to uruguay...thats thats a 'useful suggestion' no?
I'm not asking you for personal advice...or suggestions. I came up with Uruguay on my own. I asked who you prefer as a presidential candidate. You persist in not answering that simple question.
Gun Control: History, Philosophy and Ethics by Stefan Molyneux
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-26-2012 10:25 PM
Posts: 20,375
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Pi Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:Pi Wrote:Im sure you can armchair quarterback that you are...this thread, to me, is about Ron Paul being part of the illuminatis game plan for achieving their NWO...
You wanna boast of your worldy intelligence, go right ahead...
try to sniff out deception, when I can, and sounding the alarm. You, and others, would love for this thread to devolve into an endless economic debate. That serves the agenda of the mystery schools...
But please dazzle us with your brilliance!!!
Okay let's talk about masons. Why don't you start by at least telling us what Ron belongs to, and take it from there.
Vast subject matter.
You should start with the original link...
That would be respectful when trying to derail this thread and exalt your massive IQ
As far as Pauls masonic affiliation it has remained elusive for those of us that believe he is controlled opposition.
Besides his affiliation with John Birch Society and Lamda Chi Alpha there is no concrete lodge affiliation.
Its touched on in the link provided.
So you don't have that.
Okay. Have fun.
You won't believe this, but I got up about an hour ago from a nap. During my nap, I dreamed I drove by the vacant church up the street that's for sale, and the sign out front read "Office of Henry Macow."
I think Frats are bad enough. I'd be interested in knowing what the web is regarding politicians, frats, sorrorities, masonic lodges, etc. But I've read plenty of Henry Macow.
If you want to snip something that's interesting enough to lure me into reading more of it, go ahead, otherwise I'll just move on.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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Pi lop guest User ID: 92877 04-26-2012 10:28 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Astrochik Wrote:Pi Wrote:Astrochik Wrote:Makow is an asshole for myriad reasons.
You're a turd for your own reasons...aind responsible for your own turd-hood.
You are a rude AC who just slings shit and offers no useful suggestions.
Ya know ya hit a chord when the usually sweet astrochik pulls the claws out and resorts to name calling...LOL
I would venture youre a jeff rense fan and thats why u dont care for makow....your loss in the end....
B.t.w. My suggestion is to move to uruguay...thats thats a 'useful suggestion' no?
I'm not asking you for personal advice...or suggestions. I came up with Uruguay on my own. I asked who you prefer as a presidential candidate. You persist in not answering that simple question.
You Dont Get IT.
There are no alternatives.
They own all the horses in the race
NWO or Bust.....DUH
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Pi lop guest User ID: 92879 04-26-2012 10:31 PM
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RE: Ron Paul, Freemasonry and the Gold Standard
Luvapottamus Wrote:Pi Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:Okay let's talk about masons. Why don't you start by at least telling us what Ron belongs to, and take it from there.
Vast subject matter.
You should start with the original link...
That would be respectful when trying to derail this thread and exalt your massive IQ
As far as Pauls masonic affiliation it has remained elusive for those of us that believe he is controlled opposition.
Besides his affiliation with John Birch Society and Lamda Chi Alpha there is no concrete lodge affiliation.
Its touched on in the link provided.
So you don't have that.
Okay. Have fun.
You won't believe this, but I got up about an hour ago from a nap. During my nap, I dreamed I drove by the vacant church up the street that's for sale, and the sign out front read "Office of Henry Macow."

I think Frats are bad enough. I'd be interested in knowing what the web is regarding politicians, frats, sorrorities, masonic lodges, etc. But I've read plenty of Henry Macow.
If you want to snip something that's interesting enough to lure me into reading more of it, go ahead, otherwise I'll just move on.
LOL
Yes please do....!
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