Post: #16

JF Priest  Wrote:

Pi  Wrote:

No Paul supporter wants to touch this one.

So how Much are the Republicans paying you to spread this shit ??

why don't you debunk this instead of making accusations.

Post: #17

LoP Guest  Wrote:

RonPaul4Prez2012  Wrote:

Complete bullshit. Ron Paul may have been part of freemasonary but not all masons are bad. Look at all of the shriners clubs all over the U.S. Do you think they are the illuminati running the show? Plus, he has had the same stance for 30+ years and makes no money. Just look at his house. Henry Makow is a fool.

Not all masons are bad. Some are just stupid. Paul is not stupid.

OK, so he's one of the "good masons" so what about the part about him being for a one world currency and government with the gold standard?

Post: #18

You must have come here on the short bus. I said that there are two kinds of masons: bad ones and stupid ones then I said that Paul is not one of the stupid ones. Get it? Sheeesh.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

RonPaul4Prez2012  Wrote:

Complete bullshit. Ron Paul may have been part of freemasonary but not all masons are bad. Look at all of the shriners clubs all over the U.S. Do you think they are the illuminati running the show? Plus, he has had the same stance for 30+ years and makes no money. Just look at his house. Henry Makow is a fool.

Not all masons are bad. Some are just stupid. Paul is not stupid.

OK, so he's one of the "good masons" so what about the part about him being for a one world currency and government with the gold standard?

Post: #19

The same kind of idiots were supporting Ross Perot in the 90s. Perot talked about the giant sucking sound of jobs leaving the US. Years later Perot sent many of the highest paying jobs in his company overseas.
We have seen this mentality in Obama and Boosh supporters too. Let's not forget Clinton supporters. It seems that people need to worship other people and they become incapable of being rational in regard to that person. Always a bad decision.

Post: #20

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

RonPaul4Prez2012  Wrote:

Complete bullshit. Ron Paul may have been part of freemasonary but not all masons are bad. Look at all of the shriners clubs all over the U.S. Do you think they are the illuminati running the show? Plus, he has had the same stance for 30+ years and makes no money. Just look at his house. Henry Makow is a fool.

Not all masons are bad. Some are just stupid. Paul is not stupid.

OK, so he's one of the "good masons" so what about the part about him being for a one world currency and government with the gold standard?

Its so obvious isnt it? Paul is serving the illuminati agenda by creating this massive chasm of people who are sick of the system but are UNWILLING to believe that all of society is manipulated.

These people believe that voting is legitimate and not fixed by the diebold software. They rail against the 'mainstream media' and cheer when rachel maddow, bill maher, or jon stewart praise Ron Paul.

Post: #21

LoP Guest  Wrote:

You must have come here on the short bus. I said that there are two kinds of masons: bad ones and stupid ones then I said that Paul is not one of the stupid ones. Get it? Sheeesh.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Not all masons are bad. Some are just stupid. Paul is not stupid.

OK, so he's one of the "good masons" so what about the part about him being for a one world currency and government with the gold standard?

oops, lol

Post: #22

There are a lot of things a president can do

As commander-in-chief, he could bring the troops home, which is a major point he's campaigning on (as did Obama...)

He's in favor of getting rid of Federal control of education, and other govt. administrations.

There are many ways he can influence the policies and economy of our country. But if he's hamstrung by a bought-and-paid-for Congress and House, then he won't be able to do as much, so it's important to "clean house (and senate)" as well..

It's really bad, and getting worse, so it's not going to be pretty, no matter who we get in office. I believe that Ron Paul is our best chance at restoring our personal liberties - and that DOES mean that certain government programs that many have come to depend on, will be phased out. How much abuse of the system is going on? A lot.

But don't you agree it would be a good thing to keep more or all of your paycheck (or your revenues if you are a business owner)? Abolishing the income tax, restoring sound money, ending the unconstitutional wars, and restoring our personal liberties are all very positive things. Nobody else is talking about them.

10 Important Issues Only Ron Paul is Addressing

Quote: 1. End the War on Drugs: This issue is perhaps the most obvious area where Ron Paul clearly has the correct position, while Obama and Romney either have their heads in the sand or deep up the ass of special interests in their advocacy of continuing such a comically failed policy. The war on drugs costs the taxpayers billions of dollars each year with no effect on drug use. The only reasons to maintain such a horrible policy is to prop up those who benefit from the drug war itself. The only sane policy is to end the war on drugs and regulate their distribution and use. Paul also stands alone in calling for the legalization of industrial hemp, which by itself has the potential to save the U.S. economy.

2. Stop Corporate Welfare: From corporate welfare and bailouts to corporate personhood, Ron Paul is the only major candidate to have spoken out against these policies. Obama and Romney both supported the financial bailouts at the expense of taxpayers and continued tax benefits to huge multinational corporations. And Romney infamously said "corporations are human beings", which Ron Paul quickly rebuked. Anyone who believes Obama or Romney, who both receive foolish sums of corporate campaign contributions, will do anything to reign in crony capitalism is kidding themselves.

3. Bring the Troops Home: Although Obama will likely claim he has brought the Iraq War to a close, in order to score political points, he has only shifted those resources to surrounding locations and remains as militant as ever in the Muslim world by starting new wars without Congress' approval, while drone bombing several sovereign countries. He and Romney both talk of starting yet another war with Iran who has never even threatened America. Ron Paul is overwhelmingly supported by the troops because he seeks to bring them all home and end American aggression abroad.

4. Reform the Monetary System: The masses have woken up to the fact that the Federal Reserve and their predatory monetary policy is at the root of most economic problems. Ron Paul is not just the only candidate that is speaking about this, he's likely the only politician in America that understands it. Debt-based money issued by an unaccountable private entity must end. Until we change to a fair and sound approach to currency, America will maintain its collision course to economic ruin. Ron Paul is the most qualified candidate to navigate the economy through transitioning from the 'end stages' of the Federal Reserve system to something better.

5. Restore Individual Liberty: Civil libertarians are appalled at the Obama presidency. Just when they thought it couldn't get worse than under Bush, American citizens can now be assassinated without due process, jailed indefinitely without charges, must submit to a TSA full-body groping for the right to travel, have all their communications wiretapped, and can even be strip searched for minor infractions or the speculation of an infraction. Since Romney supports all of these measures and more, Ron Paul, again, is the only national candidate seeking to reverse these grotesque violations of our rights.

6. Stop Foreign Aid: Foreign aid, funded by our tax dollars, has been sold as a humanitarian policy. Yet, instance after instance, it has proven to be nothing more than a tool of imperial colonialism and corporate welfare. For example, AIDS medicine and vaccines for the Third World serve to fatten the pockets of Big Pharma more than they help the people who receive them. And military aid is always accompanied by a security agreement to protect American (corporate) interests, while the bulk of the "aid" is immediately funneled back to U.S. weapons manufacturers. It's time to end the madness, and Ron Paul is the only one demanding we do just that.

7. Repeal the PATRIOT Act & NDAA: The PATRIOT Act, which Obama railed against during his 2008 campaign, was renewed for a full 4 years by his robo-signature. Essentially, the PATRIOT Act laid the groundwork for the 2012 NDAA which openly declares war on the American people as part of the "war on terror". These bills remove basic civil liberties and constitutional rights making them unlawful acts. Ron Paul has promised to repeal them by Executive Order as soon as he's in office.

8. Health Freedom: In America, you can eat GMO foods, MSG, gulp fluoride-laced water, smoke cigarettes, take Oxycontin, and drink all the alcohol you want; but don't even think about drinking raw milk or using the healing properties of medical marijuana. Literally, no other politician in the entire country addresses the hypocrisy involved in limiting our health freedoms. Besides calling for the legalization of raw milk sales and legalization of marijuana, Paul also advocates deregulating natural health practitioners to expand healthcare choices for all Americans.

9. End the Income Tax: It's still controversial to refer to the income tax as unconstitutional. Yet, that doesn't change the fact that it is. The personal income tax is stealing from the labor of individuals. It's modern-day slavery. Interestingly, the income tax wasn't necessary in America until the Federal Reserve took over the monetary system in 1913 and debt-based money was issued. For all the naysayers about this issue, when we reform the monetary system, end the useless wars and other unproductive spending, the income tax will simply not be needed. Clearly, no other candidate would be so bold as to suggest ending the IRS while also having a sound philosophy and plan to actually make it work.

10. Increase Economic Competition: The current economy along with the government and its regulators are wholly run my mega-cartels. No genuine competition exists anymore. In other words, the free market is dead and has been for a long time. Paul's advocacy of free-market economics is perhaps the most misunderstood of all his policies mainly because people view the economic tyranny we have today as the result of so-called "free markets". Nothing could be further from the truth. Government regulators from the FDA to the EPA are run by mega-corporations who use regulations to prevent competitors from entering the marketplace. It's a scam to believe these agencies are looking out for the best interest of Americans. It's time to give small entrepreneurs the opportunity to compete once again; the bloated corporations wouldn't stand a chance against free competition. Ultimately, this issue is consistent with Paul's profound message of freedom. It must be applied to all aspects of our society, including the economy.

I can't see how it will all work out, but I do believe that out of all the people running, who have a chance at winning - Ron Paul is the best one. He is addressing important issues, unlike the other candidates. Look at the list above. Can you point out a candidate with a better record and who is addressing those important issues?

And if you are going to sit there and bash Ron Paul and say he's the same as all the others, then who do you support, or do you say it makes no difference, and are just bashing Ron Paul and his supporters because you have nothing better to do?

This country is in deep shit. There may be a revolution - it's about time.

But our country has been decimated from within, and it seems like what Ross Perot (RP again..) said - it's like making sausages, it's not pretty.

Nothing about this is going to be pretty. I don't believe a gold standard will cure everything. The central banks have hoarded it, and there is probably gold-plated tungsten in Ft. Knox.

I have no answers, but I feel strongly that Ron Paul is our best chance at this point. If he's a freemason and he wants a gold standard, then maybe we're just sunk no matter what.

But something makes me trust this man and I do not have a better alternative. Do you? And he's been consistent in voting for the Constitution, which I approve of. Do you have a better candidate to back?

No. You don't. When Ron Paul takes office, if he continues the policies that are currently in place, we will know we've been duped. I am keeping the faith that this country can be brought back to more prosperity with some sane governance - and I may be wrong, and if I am, I am.

But I'm tired of hearing people say that Ron Paul is bad for all these contrived reasons and give no credence to his voting record, his very consistent message, and his integrity, which appears much higher than any other candidate we have up there.

I support him, I believe he's the best chance for our country, and I see no alternative that makes any sense whatsoever. I am unable and not desirous to start a revolution on my own. I do what I can.

I support what I believe is right. But that is what it is - a belief. I stand by mine and if I'm wrong, then I am wrong. But by merely bashing him, you offer no solution, therefore you are not being useful at this point.

If he's just more of the same, we are left with the revolution option. It's always there. Are you going to lead it? If not, then quit your panty-waist arguments.

Ron Paul gives every appearance of being exactly what he claims to be. I don't have an x-ray machine to find out what's underneath. His actions, so far, support his words. I don't think you can point out another candidate who has been consistent and in support of personal liberty. I find him to be far more sensible and practical than any other candidate.

We would do better to pick practical, sensible candidates than what we have been choosing...

Post: #23

I can really see him as being the wizard behind the curtain though. Know what I mean? It would not surprise me too much.


Pi  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Not all masons are bad. Some are just stupid. Paul is not stupid.

OK, so he's one of the "good masons" so what about the part about him being for a one world currency and government with the gold standard?

Its so obvious isnt it? Paul is serving the illuminati agenda by creating this massive chasm of people who are sick of the system but are UNWILLING to believe that all of society is manipulated.

These people believe that voting is legitimate and not fixed by the diebold software. They rail against the 'mainstream media' and cheer when rachel maddow, bill maher, or jon stewart praise Ron Paul.

Post: #24

The programming is strong with this one.


Astrochik  Wrote:

There are a lot of things a president can do

As commander-in-chief, he could bring the troops home, which is a major point he's campaigning on (as did Obama...)

He's in favor of getting rid of Federal control of education, and other govt. administrations.

There are many ways he can influence the policies and economy of our country. But if he's hamstrung by a bought-and-paid-for Congress and House, then he won't be able to do as much, so it's important to "clean house (and senate)" as well..

It's really bad, and getting worse, so it's not going to be pretty, no matter who we get in office. I believe that Ron Paul is our best chance at restoring our personal liberties - and that DOES mean that certain government programs that many have come to depend on, will be phased out. How much abuse of the system is going on? A lot.

But don't you agree it would be a good thing to keep more or all of your paycheck (or your revenues if you are a business owner)? Abolishing the income tax, restoring sound money, ending the unconstitutional wars, and restoring our personal liberties are all very positive things. Nobody else is talking about them.

10 Important Issues Only Ron Paul is Addressing

Quote: 1. End the War on Drugs: This issue is perhaps the most obvious area where Ron Paul clearly has the correct position, while Obama and Romney either have their heads in the sand or deep up the ass of special interests in their advocacy of continuing such a comically failed policy. The war on drugs costs the taxpayers billions of dollars each year with no effect on drug use. The only reasons to maintain such a horrible policy is to prop up those who benefit from the drug war itself. The only sane policy is to end the war on drugs and regulate their distribution and use. Paul also stands alone in calling for the legalization of industrial hemp, which by itself has the potential to save the U.S. economy.

2. Stop Corporate Welfare: From corporate welfare and bailouts to corporate personhood, Ron Paul is the only major candidate to have spoken out against these policies. Obama and Romney both supported the financial bailouts at the expense of taxpayers and continued tax benefits to huge multinational corporations. And Romney infamously said "corporations are human beings", which Ron Paul quickly rebuked. Anyone who believes Obama or Romney, who both receive foolish sums of corporate campaign contributions, will do anything to reign in crony capitalism is kidding themselves.

3. Bring the Troops Home: Although Obama will likely claim he has brought the Iraq War to a close, in order to score political points, he has only shifted those resources to surrounding locations and remains as militant as ever in the Muslim world by starting new wars without Congress' approval, while drone bombing several sovereign countries. He and Romney both talk of starting yet another war with Iran who has never even threatened America. Ron Paul is overwhelmingly supported by the troops because he seeks to bring them all home and end American aggression abroad.

4. Reform the Monetary System: The masses have woken up to the fact that the Federal Reserve and their predatory monetary policy is at the root of most economic problems. Ron Paul is not just the only candidate that is speaking about this, he's likely the only politician in America that understands it. Debt-based money issued by an unaccountable private entity must end. Until we change to a fair and sound approach to currency, America will maintain its collision course to economic ruin. Ron Paul is the most qualified candidate to navigate the economy through transitioning from the 'end stages' of the Federal Reserve system to something better.

5. Restore Individual Liberty: Civil libertarians are appalled at the Obama presidency. Just when they thought it couldn't get worse than under Bush, American citizens can now be assassinated without due process, jailed indefinitely without charges, must submit to a TSA full-body groping for the right to travel, have all their communications wiretapped, and can even be strip searched for minor infractions or the speculation of an infraction. Since Romney supports all of these measures and more, Ron Paul, again, is the only national candidate seeking to reverse these grotesque violations of our rights.

6. Stop Foreign Aid: Foreign aid, funded by our tax dollars, has been sold as a humanitarian policy. Yet, instance after instance, it has proven to be nothing more than a tool of imperial colonialism and corporate welfare. For example, AIDS medicine and vaccines for the Third World serve to fatten the pockets of Big Pharma more than they help the people who receive them. And military aid is always accompanied by a security agreement to protect American (corporate) interests, while the bulk of the "aid" is immediately funneled back to U.S. weapons manufacturers. It's time to end the madness, and Ron Paul is the only one demanding we do just that.

7. Repeal the PATRIOT Act & NDAA: The PATRIOT Act, which Obama railed against during his 2008 campaign, was renewed for a full 4 years by his robo-signature. Essentially, the PATRIOT Act laid the groundwork for the 2012 NDAA which openly declares war on the American people as part of the "war on terror". These bills remove basic civil liberties and constitutional rights making them unlawful acts. Ron Paul has promised to repeal them by Executive Order as soon as he's in office.

8. Health Freedom: In America, you can eat GMO foods, MSG, gulp fluoride-laced water, smoke cigarettes, take Oxycontin, and drink all the alcohol you want; but don't even think about drinking raw milk or using the healing properties of medical marijuana. Literally, no other politician in the entire country addresses the hypocrisy involved in limiting our health freedoms. Besides calling for the legalization of raw milk sales and legalization of marijuana, Paul also advocates deregulating natural health practitioners to expand healthcare choices for all Americans.

9. End the Income Tax: It's still controversial to refer to the income tax as unconstitutional. Yet, that doesn't change the fact that it is. The personal income tax is stealing from the labor of individuals. It's modern-day slavery. Interestingly, the income tax wasn't necessary in America until the Federal Reserve took over the monetary system in 1913 and debt-based money was issued. For all the naysayers about this issue, when we reform the monetary system, end the useless wars and other unproductive spending, the income tax will simply not be needed. Clearly, no other candidate would be so bold as to suggest ending the IRS while also having a sound philosophy and plan to actually make it work.

10. Increase Economic Competition: The current economy along with the government and its regulators are wholly run my mega-cartels. No genuine competition exists anymore. In other words, the free market is dead and has been for a long time. Paul's advocacy of free-market economics is perhaps the most misunderstood of all his policies mainly because people view the economic tyranny we have today as the result of so-called "free markets". Nothing could be further from the truth. Government regulators from the FDA to the EPA are run by mega-corporations who use regulations to prevent competitors from entering the marketplace. It's a scam to believe these agencies are looking out for the best interest of Americans. It's time to give small entrepreneurs the opportunity to compete once again; the bloated corporations wouldn't stand a chance against free competition. Ultimately, this issue is consistent with Paul's profound message of freedom. It must be applied to all aspects of our society, including the economy.

I can't see how it will all work out, but I do believe that out of all the people running, who have a chance at winning - Ron Paul is the best one. He is addressing important issues, unlike the other candidates. Look at the list above. Can you point out a candidate with a better record and who is addressing those important issues?

And if you are going to sit there and bash Ron Paul and say he's the same as all the others, then who do you support, or do you say it makes no difference, and are just bashing Ron Paul and his supporters because you have nothing better to do?

This country is in deep shit. There may be a revolution - it's about time.

But our country has been decimated from within, and it seems like what Ross Perot (RP again..) said - it's like making sausages, it's not pretty.

Nothing about this is going to be pretty. I don't believe a gold standard will cure everything. The central banks have hoarded it, and there is probably gold-plated tungsten in Ft. Knox.

I have no answers, but I feel strongly that Ron Paul is our best chance at this point. If he's a freemason and he wants a gold standard, then maybe we're just sunk no matter what.

But something makes me trust this man and I do not have a better alternative. Do you? And he's been consistent in voting for the Constitution, which I approve of. Do you have a better candidate to back?

No. You don't. When Ron Paul takes office, if he continues the policies that are currently in place, we will know we've been duped. I am keeping the faith that this country can be brought back to more prosperity with some sane governance - and I may be wrong, and if I am, I am.

But I'm tired of hearing people say that Ron Paul is bad for all these contrived reasons and give no credence to his voting record, his very consistent message, and his integrity, which appears much higher than any other candidate we have up there.

I support him, I believe he's the best chance for our country, and I see no alternative that makes any sense whatsoever. I am unable and not desirous to start a revolution on my own. I do what I can.

I support what I believe is right. But that is what it is - a belief. I stand by mine and if I'm wrong, then I am wrong. But by merely bashing him, you offer no solution, therefore you are not being useful at this point.

If he's just more of the same, we are left with the revolution option. It's always there. Are you going to lead it? If not, then quit your panty-waist arguments.

Ron Paul gives every appearance of being exactly what he claims to be. I don't have an x-ray machine to find out what's underneath. His actions, so far, support his words. I don't think you can point out another candidate who has been consistent and in support of personal liberty. I find him to be far more sensible and practical than any other candidate.

We would do better to pick practical, sensible candidates than what we have been choosing...

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Post: #25

Astrochik  Wrote:

There are a lot of things a president can do

As commander-in-chief, he could bring the troops home, which is a major point he's campaigning on (as did Obama...)

He's in favor of getting rid of Federal control of education, and other govt. administrations.

There are many ways he can influence the policies and economy of our country. But if he's hamstrung by a bought-and-paid-for Congress and House, then he won't be able to do as much, so it's important to "clean house (and senate)" as well..

It's really bad, and getting worse, so it's not going to be pretty, no matter who we get in office. I believe that Ron Paul is our best chance at restoring our personal liberties - and that DOES mean that certain government programs that many have come to depend on, will be phased out. How much abuse of the system is going on? A lot.

But don't you agree it would be a good thing to keep more or all of your paycheck (or your revenues if you are a business owner)? Abolishing the income tax, restoring sound money, ending the unconstitutional wars, and restoring our personal liberties are all very positive things. Nobody else is talking about them.

10 Important Issues Only Ron Paul is Addressing

Quote: 1. End the War on Drugs: This issue is perhaps the most obvious area where Ron Paul clearly has the correct position, while Obama and Romney either have their heads in the sand or deep up the ass of special interests in their advocacy of continuing such a comically failed policy. The war on drugs costs the taxpayers billions of dollars each year with no effect on drug use. The only reasons to maintain such a horrible policy is to prop up those who benefit from the drug war itself. The only sane policy is to end the war on drugs and regulate their distribution and use. Paul also stands alone in calling for the legalization of industrial hemp, which by itself has the potential to save the U.S. economy.

2. Stop Corporate Welfare: From corporate welfare and bailouts to corporate personhood, Ron Paul is the only major candidate to have spoken out against these policies. Obama and Romney both supported the financial bailouts at the expense of taxpayers and continued tax benefits to huge multinational corporations. And Romney infamously said "corporations are human beings", which Ron Paul quickly rebuked. Anyone who believes Obama or Romney, who both receive foolish sums of corporate campaign contributions, will do anything to reign in crony capitalism is kidding themselves.

3. Bring the Troops Home: Although Obama will likely claim he has brought the Iraq War to a close, in order to score political points, he has only shifted those resources to surrounding locations and remains as militant as ever in the Muslim world by starting new wars without Congress' approval, while drone bombing several sovereign countries. He and Romney both talk of starting yet another war with Iran who has never even threatened America. Ron Paul is overwhelmingly supported by the troops because he seeks to bring them all home and end American aggression abroad.

4. Reform the Monetary System: The masses have woken up to the fact that the Federal Reserve and their predatory monetary policy is at the root of most economic problems. Ron Paul is not just the only candidate that is speaking about this, he's likely the only politician in America that understands it. Debt-based money issued by an unaccountable private entity must end. Until we change to a fair and sound approach to currency, America will maintain its collision course to economic ruin. Ron Paul is the most qualified candidate to navigate the economy through transitioning from the 'end stages' of the Federal Reserve system to something better.

5. Restore Individual Liberty: Civil libertarians are appalled at the Obama presidency. Just when they thought it couldn't get worse than under Bush, American citizens can now be assassinated without due process, jailed indefinitely without charges, must submit to a TSA full-body groping for the right to travel, have all their communications wiretapped, and can even be strip searched for minor infractions or the speculation of an infraction. Since Romney supports all of these measures and more, Ron Paul, again, is the only national candidate seeking to reverse these grotesque violations of our rights.

6. Stop Foreign Aid: Foreign aid, funded by our tax dollars, has been sold as a humanitarian policy. Yet, instance after instance, it has proven to be nothing more than a tool of imperial colonialism and corporate welfare. For example, AIDS medicine and vaccines for the Third World serve to fatten the pockets of Big Pharma more than they help the people who receive them. And military aid is always accompanied by a security agreement to protect American (corporate) interests, while the bulk of the "aid" is immediately funneled back to U.S. weapons manufacturers. It's time to end the madness, and Ron Paul is the only one demanding we do just that.

7. Repeal the PATRIOT Act & NDAA: The PATRIOT Act, which Obama railed against during his 2008 campaign, was renewed for a full 4 years by his robo-signature. Essentially, the PATRIOT Act laid the groundwork for the 2012 NDAA which openly declares war on the American people as part of the "war on terror". These bills remove basic civil liberties and constitutional rights making them unlawful acts. Ron Paul has promised to repeal them by Executive Order as soon as he's in office.

8. Health Freedom: In America, you can eat GMO foods, MSG, gulp fluoride-laced water, smoke cigarettes, take Oxycontin, and drink all the alcohol you want; but don't even think about drinking raw milk or using the healing properties of medical marijuana. Literally, no other politician in the entire country addresses the hypocrisy involved in limiting our health freedoms. Besides calling for the legalization of raw milk sales and legalization of marijuana, Paul also advocates deregulating natural health practitioners to expand healthcare choices for all Americans.

9. End the Income Tax: It's still controversial to refer to the income tax as unconstitutional. Yet, that doesn't change the fact that it is. The personal income tax is stealing from the labor of individuals. It's modern-day slavery. Interestingly, the income tax wasn't necessary in America until the Federal Reserve took over the monetary system in 1913 and debt-based money was issued. For all the naysayers about this issue, when we reform the monetary system, end the useless wars and other unproductive spending, the income tax will simply not be needed. Clearly, no other candidate would be so bold as to suggest ending the IRS while also having a sound philosophy and plan to actually make it work.

10. Increase Economic Competition: The current economy along with the government and its regulators are wholly run my mega-cartels. No genuine competition exists anymore. In other words, the free market is dead and has been for a long time. Paul's advocacy of free-market economics is perhaps the most misunderstood of all his policies mainly because people view the economic tyranny we have today as the result of so-called "free markets". Nothing could be further from the truth. Government regulators from the FDA to the EPA are run by mega-corporations who use regulations to prevent competitors from entering the marketplace. It's a scam to believe these agencies are looking out for the best interest of Americans. It's time to give small entrepreneurs the opportunity to compete once again; the bloated corporations wouldn't stand a chance against free competition. Ultimately, this issue is consistent with Paul's profound message of freedom. It must be applied to all aspects of our society, including the economy.

I can't see how it will all work out, but I do believe that out of all the people running, who have a chance at winning - Ron Paul is the best one. He is addressing important issues, unlike the other candidates. Look at the list above. Can you point out a candidate with a better record and who is addressing those important issues?

And if you are going to sit there and bash Ron Paul and say he's the same as all the others, then who do you support, or do you say it makes no difference, and are just bashing Ron Paul and his supporters because you have nothing better to do?

This country is in deep shit. There may be a revolution - it's about time.

But our country has been decimated from within, and it seems like what Ross Perot (RP again..) said - it's like making sausages, it's not pretty.

Nothing about this is going to be pretty. I don't believe a gold standard will cure everything. The central banks have hoarded it, and there is probably gold-plated tungsten in Ft. Knox.

I have no answers, but I feel strongly that Ron Paul is our best chance at this point. If he's a freemason and he wants a gold standard, then maybe we're just sunk no matter what.

But something makes me trust this man and I do not have a better alternative. Do you? And he's been consistent in voting for the Constitution, which I approve of. Do you have a better candidate to back?

No. You don't. When Ron Paul takes office, if he continues the policies that are currently in place, we will know we've been duped. I am keeping the faith that this country can be brought back to more prosperity with some sane governance - and I may be wrong, and if I am, I am.

But I'm tired of hearing people say that Ron Paul is bad for all these contrived reasons and give no credence to his voting record, his very consistent message, and his integrity, which appears much higher than any other candidate we have up there.

I support him, I believe he's the best chance for our country, and I see no alternative that makes any sense whatsoever. I am unable and not desirous to start a revolution on my own. I do what I can.

I support what I believe is right. But that is what it is - a belief. I stand by mine and if I'm wrong, then I am wrong. But by merely bashing him, you offer no solution, therefore you are not being useful at this point.

If he's just more of the same, we are left with the revolution option. It's always there. Are you going to lead it? If not, then quit your panty-waist arguments.

Ron Paul gives every appearance of being exactly what he claims to be. I don't have an x-ray machine to find out what's underneath. His actions, so far, support his words. I don't think you can point out another candidate who has been consistent and in support of personal liberty. I find him to be far more sensible and practical than any other candidate.

We would do better to pick practical, sensible candidates than what we have been choosing...

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...998EF2.jpg

LOL

Did YOU even READ the link provided?

Hell NO you didnt.

You just post a dissertation on Ron Pauls campaign promises which by the way, look identical to Barack Obamas 2008 promises.

You sit here all day everyday re-posting Alex Jones, Lindsay Williams, Gerald Celente CRAP!

You really are BLIND

But thanks for the post. Maybe when Alex's show is over you will read the link at the first post.

I doubt it though

Post: #26

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I can really see him as being the wizard behind the curtain though. Know what I mean? It would not surprise me too much.


Pi  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

OK, so he's one of the "good masons" so what about the part about him being for a one world currency and government with the gold standard?

Its so obvious isnt it? Paul is serving the illuminati agenda by creating this massive chasm of people who are sick of the system but are UNWILLING to believe that all of society is manipulated.

These people believe that voting is legitimate and not fixed by the diebold software. They rail against the 'mainstream media' and cheer when rachel maddow, bill maher, or jon stewart praise Ron Paul.

No doubt! Whatever is coming. He will be used to coral the paytriots and then Paul and AJ will lead them to the waters edge like the pied piper

Say it isnt so

Post: #27

It is a who that is coming. I reserve the right to recant and call it a what.


Pi  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I can really see him as being the wizard behind the curtain though. Know what I mean? It would not surprise me too much.


Pi  Wrote:

Its so obvious isnt it? Paul is serving the illuminati agenda by creating this massive chasm of people who are sick of the system but are UNWILLING to believe that all of society is manipulated.

These people believe that voting is legitimate and not fixed by the diebold software. They rail against the 'mainstream media' and cheer when rachel maddow, bill maher, or jon stewart praise Ron Paul.

No doubt! Whatever is coming. He will be used to coral the paytriots and then Paul and AJ will lead them to the waters edge like the pied piper

Say it isnt so

Post: #28

"the gold standard" is just a term for what is admittedly to be a nonfiat currency controlled by congress [like the constitution says], immune to artificial inflation via taxation for the simple use of printed and loaned bills

in other words, stop preying on the peoples' lack of economic knowledge and stfu

Post: #29

LoP Guest  Wrote:

"the gold standard" is just a term for what is admittedly to be a nonfiat currency controlled by congress [like the constitution says], immune to artificial inflation via taxation for the simple use of printed and loaned bills

in other words, stop preying on the peoples' lack of economic knowledge and stfu

it won't necessarily be gold, but a basket of various commodities

you can't have currency which is backed by physical goods unless you rely on goods owned in large part by the rich folk. that's why they're rich, after all... they own things. if 1% of people didn't own 95% of wealth, it might be a different story, but those are the cards we're dealt

Post: #30

this thread?

worst conspiracy theory ever