You really think your vote matter? Think again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw

That's not some wild conspiracy theories, that's actually how it work.

... that's not counting vote fraud, debold and the fact that "they" count the votes.

Astrochik  Wrote:

Who do you think is a better choice?

No one, elections are rigged. If ron paul gets selected that means
he's part of the plan. By voting you consent to being rule, it's that simple.

"Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney, I love'em. But they're all part of what
is called the "controlled opposition". They're there to give you hope. They're
not there to actually change the system. They're theatre, like Obama is theatre,
and Bush before him was theatre... The world is run out of the secretary of the
treasury, Goldman Sachs and the federal reserve which is neither federal nor a
reserve. Alright? It's time we got serious here about what is being done to this
country, because it's over the f*cking cliff and ten feet from the bottom."

"... One of the problem that I find with Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney,
and others, is they don't play well with others. They simply refuse to do the
obvious thing, which is come together and say to Obama; "Unless you want the White
House burned down, again, you will pass electoral reform that will bring 100% of
the voters in, and that will allow anybody from any party ballot access. Hello? This is
not rocket science. So, if it's not happening, it's not because Obama is stupid. It's
because Obama sold his soul to the devil, who's name Brewsinki, when he was at Colombia.
Okay? They have been playing Obama to this day. I mean, Brewsinski's no fool. He got
one son in the Mckain camp, and one in the Obama's camp, they're pulling all the strings and
It is really frightening to me how inert the American public is about all of this." -Robert Steele.

Your non participation is killing the rest of us. Silence is a form of consent and by not participating in the political process you silently agree that what others decide is what is best for us all. Get up, get loud, make your opinion heard and actually do something besides whine on a forum about how corrupt it all is. If it's so corrupt then do something to change it.

You have to break away from the sparkly rectangular thing in your living room that paints all those pretty pictures for you. Put down the McGmo feed lot crap that your stuffing yourself with and pry yourself off your couch.

Take a shower, put on your cleanest clothes, fire up the laptop and print out a petition and get out there and have people sign it. A petition for what? Why nothing less than openly counted and web cast paper ballots. Explain why honest elections are mandatory in a free society and push hard for exactly that.

Paper ballots. Web cast counts in front of the entire electorate. Make the elections as tamper proof as you can get them.

Then once you have honest elections in your area start running honest politicians for local offices. People you know and trust to do the job as described. Here's the catch though, keep an eye on those people. Make sure they know they are being watched for any possible corruption and overreach of power and that a recall and possible criminal action will ensue for any offenses.

The video you posted, however, was stupid and worthless...except as a

so this is not specifically about ron paul, it's about elections in general...?

why focus on ron paul then?

You could start your own thread about rigged elections.

I'm sure the ron paul supporters will visit it and agree with you.

But until the country is willing to go full-bore revolution against the "system" that's screwing the average American over, Ron Paul looks best to me and he gives every indication that he's a sincere patriot who supports the Constitution, and has voted most consistently throughout many years.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Your non participation is killing the rest of us. Silence is a form of consent and by not participating in the political process you silently agree that what others decide is what is best for us all. Get up, get loud, make your opinion heard and actually do something besides whine on a forum about how corrupt it all is. If it's so corrupt then do something to change it.

Oh, because you really believe that by voting you make your voice heard, are you
kidding me? Non-participation is killing us all... right...

It seems to have work very well for Gandhi;

"I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the
political men in our time. We should strive to do things in his spirit:
not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation"

-Albert Einstein

Oh, but I guess these two mens were retards and potato couch, right!?

LoP Guest  Wrote:

You have to break away from the sparkly rectangular thing in your living room that paints all those pretty pictures for you. Put down the McGmo feed lot crap that your stuffing yourself with and pry yourself off your couch.

Nice ad hominem, bro.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Take a shower, put on your cleanest clothes, fire up the laptop and print out a petition and get out there and have people sign it. A petition for what? Why nothing less than openly counted and web cast paper ballots. Explain why honest elections are mandatory in a free society and push hard for exactly that.

Paper ballots. Web cast counts in front of the entire electorate. Make the elections as tamper proof as you can get them.

Then once you have honest elections in your area start running honest politicians for local offices. People you know and trust to do the job as described. Here's the catch though, keep an eye on those people. Make sure they know they are being watched for any possible corruption and overreach of power and that a recall and possible criminal action will ensue for any offenses.

That's almost precisely what Robert Steele, the guy I quoted on the last
page is fighting for. Electoral reform, tell me... When was the last time
you heard any paultards push for this, eh?

Oh but wait. The next debate is on tonight isn't it? Never mind. Just keep posting
your ron paul videos and circle jerk threads on the internet and crack another beer.

Astrochik  Wrote:

so this is not specifically about ron paul, it's about elections in general...?

why focus on ron paul then?

You could start your own thread about rigged elections.

I'm sure the ron paul supporters will visit it and agree with you.

I've done and more than once, they usually tell me to f*ck off and post obama smiley.

Astrochik  Wrote:

But until the country is willing to go full-bore revolution against the "system" that's screwing the average American over, Ron Paul looks best to me and he gives every indication that he's a sincere patriot who supports the Constitution, and has voted most consistently throughout many years.

And non-participation is not a revolution? Oh no, you surely
prefer armed redneck overtaking the white house, right?

If you don't please define what you mean by that.

Every one of the what you call 'paultards' are in favor of election reforms to make sure that the votes cast are the votes counted. Thanks to RP's presidential run election fraud is quite obvious. Whole districts in Maine not counted because they went for RP and the counts for those areas are still not available for an example.

And most of us 'paultards' are involved in the political process and are working towards those reforms. Everyone I talk to is in favor of openly counted paper ballots and is working hard in their district to get this available to all voters.

Here comes the ad hominem insults so pay attention:

But you keep watching your mindless drivel on the sparkly picture box or surfing for whatever sort of porn floats your boat on the internet while insulting those of us who are working hard to make sure you still have the right to spew your stupidity all over the internet.

What are you doing to reform the system? Bitching about how bad it is from your mommy's basement while brushing the crumbs from your GMO chips from your way too tight Spider Man pajamas? Or are you actually working in your voting district to get openly counted paper ballots instead of the easily hacked and unverifiable machines?

Did you like those ad hominems?

Here's a bit more for you.

Are you going to change out of your Spidy jamies and join the adult world or are you going to go digging for something real kinky on the internet?

C'mon, put the porn away for a bit, take a shower, dress up neatly and get out there and do something besides b*tch on a forum about how corrupt things are.

armed rednecks taking over the whitehouse is preferable to what we have now, but not my first choice...

Astrochik  Wrote:

armed rednecks taking over the whitehouse is preferable to what we have now, but not my first choice...

So it's really what you meant?

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Every one of the what you call 'paultards' are in favor of election reforms to make sure that the votes cast are the votes counted. Thanks to RP's presidential run election fraud is quite obvious. Whole districts in Maine not counted because they went for RP and the counts for those areas are still not available for an example.

And most of us 'paultards' are involved in the political process and are working towards those reforms. Everyone I talk to is in favor of openly counted paper ballots and is working hard in their district to get this available to all voters.

We could have discuss about this like grown man but...

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Here comes the ad hominem insults so pay attention:

But you keep watching your mindless drivel on the sparkly picture box or surfing for whatever sort of porn floats your boat on the internet while insulting those of us who are working hard to make sure you still have the right to spew your stupidity all over the internet.

What are you doing to reform the system? Bitching about how bad it is from your mommy's basement while brushing the crumbs from your GMO chips from your way too tight Spider Man pajamas? Or are you actually working in your voting district to get openly counted paper ballots instead of the easily hacked and unverifiable machines?

Did you like those ad hominems?

Here's a bit more for you.

Are you going to change out of your Spidy jamies and join the adult world or are you going to go digging for something real kinky on the internet?

C'mon, put the porn away for a bit, take a shower, dress up neatly and get out there and do something besides b*tch on a forum about how corrupt things are.

... you decided to make a self defeating post making stupid assumptions
about a stranger. The funny thing is, I bet these insults are in fact projections.

Typical and sad.