News
news Massive Worldwide Bee Decline Continues as Pesticide Companies Ramp Up the PR
news Is Your Taste In Music Influenced By The Shape Of Your Skull?
news Obama and His Allies Say the Govt Doesn't Listen to Your Phone Calls — But the FBI Begs to Differ
news Nestle: Water’s Corporate Takeover
news Eyeball Licking Sex Craze Sweeps Japan
news The Supreme Court Decided Your Silence Can Be Used Against You
news Putin: Syrian Rebels Eat Human Flesh
news Accident Rates Rise At Intersections With Speed Cameras
news The "Ocean Moon" --Future Missions to Explore Jupiter's Europa
news Plastic Bags Fool Sea Turtles Into Hunting Them
news Magnetic Pole Shift May Happen Sooner than Expected
news Venezuelans download new app which helps locate TOILET PAPER as stock runs low
news How Do Death Valley’s “Sailing Stones” Move Themselves Across the Desert?
news School Holds Toy Gun Buyback Program
news Meet the Contractors Analyzing Your Private Data
news HILARIOUS: Rand Paul Explains Obamacare
news The Shocking Amount of Wealth and Power Held by 0.001% of the World Population
news 22 Nauseating Quotes From Hypocritical Establishment Politicians About The NSA Spying Scandal
news Recomended: Ship Graveyards from Around the World in Pictures
news Cradle Turns Smartphone Into Handheld Biosensor; ‘Performs as Accurately as a Large $50,000 Spectrophotometer in the Laboratory’

Username:
Password: or Register
 
Thread Rating:
  • 6 Votes - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
bobnightman
Militant Atheist
User ID: 112339
08-02-2012 11:11 PM

Posts: 4,216



Post: #16
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
I took a friend in over a year ago and she doesn't need to pay anything ...she had an automobile accident a few years ago and it restricts the jobs and hours she can work

Resident asshole
Quote this message in a reply
SaltWaterTaffy
lop guest
User ID: 53361
08-02-2012 11:19 PM

 



Post: #17
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Kill the Matrix  Wrote:
I'm not really upset about my family and friends, just more "astounded" than anything else. I am sure I will be okay. Thank God I was stockpiling because I was able to feed myself for the past two months and ate through much of what I had stored. I still have a solid month left of food.

I just want you guys to learn from this, to realize that many times, family sucks.

I know who I will be depending on in the future and I intend to move closer to them.

Hugs

It's good you were smart and planned ahead.

I come from a very large family (mom is one of 10) who are all still local and quite successful, and we've always been led to believe that they've got our backs.

Dad just up and died suddenly in June and left mom in a huge hole (dad sucked with money, and also with insurance, evidently) and she is facing a huge problem. She is a preschool teacher who makes 10 bucks an hour and has no other skills, nor do they offer benefits. My sister and I can float her a little, she can even live with us, but we can't keep a roof over her head, pay her COBRA, her expenses and all the rest until her social security kicks in (years away).

We'll see if it's true about our big, successfully family (my dad was the first to die, most are only in their 40s), but I have my doubts. When push comes to shove, it seems like everyone only cares about their own self.

I'm sorry that happened to you, OP. Hugs
Quote this message in a reply
sixten
Registered User
User ID: 99554
08-02-2012 11:20 PM

Posts: 710



Post: #18
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Kill the Matrix  Wrote:
There is something I want to share with you, because I've heard many people on this site talk about how if they were going to be homeless, they would rely on their family and friends. Maybe in a SHTF scenario, you're thinking you might take your family in, like I was planning. My thoughts on this weren't very concrete.

I always thought when the chips were really down, people's good side would shine through.

Through a series of events, I am losing my house. It's a long story, but I have never been in this position of needing help.

Toward the end, a relative moved in and was going to help with the payments. They stayed for several months for free, I found them work, and when the time came to pitch in financially, they up and moved in the middle of the night. They thought that living with me for free, eating my food, and doubling my utility bill was "helping out" -- you know, because they are so fascinating and entertaining. I wish I was kidding. This put me into worse financial shape. I was chastised by another family member for not giving this person a going away party.

I have informed every member of my family that I am losing my place to live. I have asked for help. Not one has offered me a place to stay, no one has given me a dime, including the relative down the street with a 4000 square foot house for three people. I always assumed my family would help me because I have helped them in the past. I thought the ones that owed me money would be thrilled to lend me a hand or would at least feel guilty and pay me what they owe me.

A very good friend who I nursed through a flesh eating bacterial infection for three weeks last year also refused to help me. I have helped this individual through two other surgeries. They live alone in a four-bedroom house.

The final straw came from one of the closest people to me. A friend who was in a similar situation I allowed to move in with me. I swallowed my pride, told them I needed help and asked them to call me. They are very aware of my situation. I have not heard from them in six weeks.

I have literally begged people to pay me the money they owe me.

When my family and these other people ask me what I am going to do, I have told them that I am going to live in my car, just to see their response. Nothing.

There have been incredible people who have come forward. A neighbor offered to buy my house and rent it back to me for less money, and another offered to help me move. A third person I know through business offered to let me stay in their vacation condo for free. And finally, another friend a few hours from where I am offered to let me stay with him for a year, rent free and offered me a job if I needed one. I probably won't need their help, but it's nice to know I have a fall back position.

I believe this all came about to change my attitude about helping people. I think the economy is going in the drain over the next six months, much worse than it is now. I think everyone is going to need help. I had always thought, "Of course I will help my family", but now I am rethinking that approach. I am now beginning to ask myself how those people would behave if there was very little food, would they share? If they had the only functioning vehicle, would they allow me to drive it? Things like that.

It's not about punishing them, but about not inviting people in with the selfish mindset. I think I had to go through this experience to understand that I need to protect myself from those people in an emergency situation.

I urge you to rethink your position on people so you don't learn it the hard way. Just because they are related to you does not automatically mean they will help you. Don't be like me and assume it.

At this point, I would rely on my neighbors long before I would my family and friends.

Just a heads up for you guys, so you can learn from my shitty lesson.

I know how it feels. Most people are greedy... They forget what has been done to them earlier. Karma exists and it doesn't forget. I live easy and i havn't alot of money, but i have a cabine that is warm (fire wood) and food..

My house is always open for anyone or a family who doesn't have a place to live. It's small, but it has everything..

If you would find yourself in 58.5N / 16W sometime, you could always spend some nights here..

/ Sixten.

Obi-one kenobi - Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
G-w-Bush - Either you are with us or your with the terrorists.
(This post was last modified: 08-02-2012 11:22 PM by sixten.) Quote this message in a reply
Foodnipple

User ID: 111193
08-02-2012 11:23 PM

Posts: 4,850



Post: #19
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
My family is over 1000 miles away so no worries on my end.

*~WellAware1.Com~*
*~VigilantCitizen.com~*
*~SecretArcana.com~*
Quote this message in a reply
Don Ricardo De La O
Registered User
User ID: 112395
08-02-2012 11:29 PM

Posts: 726



Post: #20
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Once in 1992 I was about 30... when going through extremely hard times, I took a bus 30 miles to my familys home on Christmas... We are a family of 9. We celebrated and had a big dinner and opened gifts in my parents 500,000 dollar home. My parents at the end of the evening offered to drive me back to Pasadena in the back seat of their Mercedes Benz. Dropped me off on the street near the bridge I had been sleeping under for 6 months. My dad handed me a twenty, I handed it back. Merry f*cking Christmas. Everything is OK now and I never held this against them except deep inside. But friends will always help before family.

[Image: 12A0_501AF131.jpg]
Quote this message in a reply
Missy
Registered User
User ID: 110772
08-02-2012 11:40 PM

Posts: 304



Post: #21
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
I couldn't live a single one of my relatives they'd drive me crazy.
Quote this message in a reply
sixten
Registered User
User ID: 99554
08-02-2012 11:41 PM

Posts: 710



Post: #22
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Don Ricardo De La O  Wrote:
Once in 1992 I was about 30... when going through extremely hard times, I took a bus 30 miles to my familys home on Christmas... We are a family of 9. We celebrated and had a big dinner and opened gifts in my parents 500,000 dollar home. My parents at the end of the evening offered to drive me back to Pasadena in the back seat of their Mercedes Benz. Dropped me off on the street near the bridge I had been sleeping under for 6 months. My dad handed me a twenty, I handed it back. Merry f*cking Christmas. Everything is OK now and I never held this against them except deep inside. But friends will always help before family.

[Image: 12A0_501AF131.jpg]

Strange parents you have! Most parents love their children and would do anything to help them, not just a $Twenty.

Obi-one kenobi - Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
G-w-Bush - Either you are with us or your with the terrorists.
Quote this message in a reply
geminigirl
Registered User
User ID: 60111
08-02-2012 11:47 PM

Posts: 7,407



Post: #23
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Kill the Matrix  Wrote:
I'm not really upset about my family and friends, just more "astounded" than anything else. I am sure I will be okay. Thank God I was stockpiling because I was able to feed myself for the past two months and ate through much of what I had stored. I still have a solid month left of food.

I just want you guys to learn from this, to realize that many times, family sucks.

I know who I will be depending on in the future and I intend to move closer to them.

This is exactly why everyone should be a prepper. Many can learn from your story. Heartflowers

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Quote this message in a reply
Hollow Closet Dweller
Registered User
User ID: 105659
08-02-2012 11:51 PM

Posts: 1,514



Post: #24
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
hang in there Heartflowers
Quote this message in a reply
Full Circle
Registered User
User ID: 112187
08-03-2012 12:09 AM

Posts: 26,842



Post: #25
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Nice post KTM. And I agree. Heartflowers

Good luck with your situation and I hope you pull through. Sounds like you may have the help from some of your friends.

I don't think I want to be near too many of my own family in the event of a big collapse or something major.

“My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there.”
― Rumi
Quote this message in a reply
Kill the Matrix
Misanthrope
User ID: 38238
08-03-2012 12:13 AM

Posts: 2,800



Post: #26
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
I am pretty sure I am going to be fine. Please don't worry. Losing the house is a good thing because I am no longer tied to it.

“Doubt not that there is a judgment day where every foul deed and deal of death will be brought to light, and justice will be meted out to the perpetrators in a most satisfying, and eternal fashion.”
Quote this message in a reply
RoseRed
Passion & Pain
User ID: 101010
08-03-2012 12:47 AM

Posts: 1,716



Post: #27
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Kill the Matrix  Wrote:
I am pretty sure I am going to be fine. Please don't worry. Losing the house is a good thing because I am no longer tied to it.

I think many of us are worried 'cause, we too, have good hearts.

I know I can depend on my parents and could one of my brothers. They are loving, giving people. My best friend lives across a common driveway we share and I know she and her family will help too, as we will them. All of us have helped each other in hard times before. If the SHTF, we've already discussed pooling our resources. We are fortunate to have these people in our lives. Others though, I know they wouldn't be there if the going got tough...they're fair weather family and friends. My in-laws, my other brother and my sister...they're not the type that can be counted on...they're the type that take, not give. What you've said is a good lesson though. We need to plan ahead and consider who we can really count on.

I hope things work out well for you hon...you deserve to have good things come your way. Fhug

Rose_red RoseRed
Quote this message in a reply
Wicman
Registered User
User ID: 109698
08-03-2012 01:29 AM

Posts: 1,276



Post: #28
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Don Ricardo De La O  Wrote:
But friends will always help before family.

always found this to be true as well.
Quote this message in a reply
Kill the Matrix
Misanthrope
User ID: 38238
08-03-2012 01:58 AM

Posts: 2,800



Post: #29
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Wicman  Wrote:
Don Ricardo De La O  Wrote:
But friends will always help before family.

always found this to be true as well.

I have to tell you how surprised I was by people's response. A neighbor came by after they saw the sign and asked what was going on. I gave them a brief run down of the situation, they offered me a room in their house. I barely know these people. It was so generous.

The one friend that offered me a place to live has always been extremely generous and helpful to everyone. This is someone I can count on and I know it.

I think I need to be eliminating a bunch of names off my list. I will feel no guilt about not helping those people who have demonstrated an unwillingness to help me. Usually, I am a soft touch about such things, but not any more.

“Doubt not that there is a judgment day where every foul deed and deal of death will be brought to light, and justice will be meted out to the perpetrators in a most satisfying, and eternal fashion.”
Quote this message in a reply
Astrochik
seeking the truth - good or bad
User ID: 55237
08-03-2012 02:03 AM

Posts: 9,016



Post: #30
RE: SHTF. Will your family help? Read this.
Kill the Matrix  Wrote:
Wicman  Wrote:
Don Ricardo De La O  Wrote:
But friends will always help before family.

always found this to be true as well.

I have to tell you how surprised I was by people's response. A neighbor came by after they saw the sign and asked what was going on. I gave them a brief run down of the situation, they offered me a room in their house. I barely know these people. It was so generous.

The one friend that offered me a place to live has always been extremely generous and helpful to everyone. This is someone I can count on and I know it.

I think I need to be eliminating a bunch of names off my list. I will feel no guilt about not helping those people who have demonstrated an unwillingness to help me. Usually, I am a soft touch about such things, but not any more.

You can't save the whole world, and you only have so much energy...

So choose wisely

Universe is being very direct in educating you as to where your loyalties should lie, it would seem..

HeartflowersHeartflowersHeartflowers

Gun Control: History, Philosophy and Ethics by Stefan Molyneux
Quote this message in a reply



Contact UsConspiracy Forum. No reg. required! Return to TopReturn to ContentRSS Syndication
HiFi High-End Audio PSUs for Laptops, Netbooks, Phono Preamps, USB Cables.

Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional Valid CSS 2.1