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SOPA supporters meet in secret to strangle Internet freedom & online speech
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Behind closed doors, big SOPA supporting corporations are negotiating a massive trade agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and sneaking in an intellectual property chapter that will strangle online speech and choke off Internet freedom. There is zero transparency as 'they' don't want us, or Congress, to know what's in the TPP IP section so we don't go all ninja netizens again like we did to stomp out SOPA/PIPA.

By Ms. Smith on Mon, 05/14/12 - 1:11pm.

I was so proud of "us," the Net, for what we accomplished in stomping out SOPA/PIPA, even though a former DHS cybersecurity dude who wishes to remain anonymous warned me that the fight was nowhere close to over and to expect it to be pushed through under another name and this time much more secretly. Sure enough, a trade agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has an intellectual property (IP) chapter that is being worked out behind closed doors to keep us in the dark so we don't go all ninja netizens again. There is zero, zippy, negative, none as in transparency and that includes public input since only large companies are in-the-know. "Like ACTA, the TPP is being negotiated in secret, and on a fast timetable." The EFF is urging us to demand a Congressional hearing so lawmakers, "not just deep-pocketed industry representatives," can learn what's in the TPP.

If you don't know about the TPP or don't know why you should care, stop for 1.5 minutes and watch this video explaining how bad ideas are snuck into the intellectual property (IP) chapter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiraTWOUL4U
While Eurasia Review suggested that SOPA on steroids is what is really being created in the secret US meetings, Techdirt calls a report referenced in the TPP "a load of hogwash," and the letter [PDF] signed by the likes of the MPAA, RIAA, and the US Chamber of Commerce "a complete joke" as SOPA supporters try to sneak in "draconian" provisions that could strangle Internet freedom.

The EFF International Team sent an email explaining the May 8 to May 18 closed-door meetings in Dallas are:
secretly negotiating new regulations for the Internet - including intellectual property provisions that could choke off online speech. The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Agreement may be even worse than ACTA; it could tie the hands of democratically-elected legislators and create new, international standards for intellectual property enforcement. Worst of all, Internet users and free expression advocates like EFF aren't allowed in the room and are forbidden from seeing the negotiated text.
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U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk claims they have made "extraordinary efforts" to include public stakeholders in negotiations, but this couldn't be further from the truth. Like ACTA, negotiations have actively excluded civil society and the public, while welcoming private industry representatives with open arms.


"Don't trade away our digital future," urged The National Business Review. Public Citizen said TPP is a "corporate power tool of the 1%" and also created a School House rockish video to show you how TPP is all about secrecy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOokUdKYcM
Public Knowledge breaks it down as a "guide to copyright in the TPP," using the leaked text [PDF] to explain that the idea behind the TPP copyright provisions "is not to achieve a level playing field: it's to entrench and protect incumbent business models, regardless of the consequences for consumers and new businesses. If the US's goal is to encourage innovation and leave breathing room for innovative new businesses to experiment and thrive, it must stop demanding copyright provisions whose only practical effect is to protect existing business models and discourage anyone else from trying something new."
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One bright spot about the stealthy TPP negotiations in Dallas came from a Yes Lab report. The party ended badly after a "fake awards ceremony" and activists replaced hundreds of rolls of toilet paper at the conference with TPP TP. Yes Lab's Sean Dagohoy said, "We're really happy to know that even in their most private moments, US trade reps are reminded that a vast majority of the public stands opposed to corporate-friendly, closed-door trade deals like the TPP."

The nine countries in the TPP are the "United States, Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam." However China Daily reported a "milestone" free-trade agreement investment between China, Japan, and the Republic of Korea was signed in Beijing yesterday; experts said that Washington, which is pushing forward its TPP, "should not feel concerned about the potential three-way FTA as any future agreement will also be in the interests of the US." Oh yeah and for Americans, you support buying American goods right? Well the TPP will outlaw Buy American.

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I fear that people are losing interest after defeating this beast once
and now think they no longer have to worry. It will only be after the
damage is done that they may wake up.

“We believe that this law is going to collapse under its own weight… This to us is something that
we’re not going to give up on, because we’re not going to give up on destroying the health
care system for the American people.”

— Rep Paul Ryan, March 12th, 2013

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DrPostman  Wrote:
I fear that people are losing interest after defeating this beast once
and now think they no longer have to worry. It will only be after the
damage is done that they may wake up.

giving ya another bump. secret meetings to limit our freedoms should be pinned.
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DrPostman  Wrote:
I fear that people are losing interest after defeating this beast once
and now think they no longer have to worry. It will only be after the
damage is done that they may wake up.

This is exactly what's happening. These fuckers are determined to win and resubmit legislation again and again until they get what they want. Sure I think we have to fight them on every turn, but I'm pessimistic as to what will eventually happen. They definitely make the top ten most evil entities on Earth.
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PIN this!!!!!!
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they are meeting this week in dallas:

Quote:The Trans-Pacific Partnership is a proposed free trade agreement under secret negotiation between Australia, Brunei, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the United States and Vietnam.

Branded as a “trade deal” by its corporate proponents, the TPP would actually establish new corporate rights to undermine environmental and health laws, offshore millions of American jobs, flood the US with untested food products, and extend the duration of medical patents. Its expansive non-trade provisions would impose constraints on government regulation of financial firms and food safety. As the Huffington Post’s Zach Carter reported, the TPP would even ban the widely popular “Buy America” procurement policy.

Taking place this week in Dallas, Texas, TPP negotiators are talking behind closed doors with hundreds of corporate “advisors” while the public and consumer advocates are locked out.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/167879/sto...artnership

yay, new rights for global corporations. because they don't have enough. that means less rights for us and a further erosion of national sovereignty. this isn't just about the internet. these people are conspiring to undermine the constitution and american laws (as well as the laws of other nations i'm sure, i'm just not up on the laws of the other nations).
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Shameless self-promotional bump.
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“We believe that this law is going to collapse under its own weight… This to us is something that
we’re not going to give up on, because we’re not going to give up on destroying the health
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