Post: #46

I will have to make sure I get a front row seat.

Post: #47

So Romney's gonna have to wait until after then to announce his VP choice ?

Post: #48

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I will have to make sure I get a front row seat.

Post: #49

They are not evil. They help keep the world safe by slowly turning all countries into us.

Post: #50

a student of Protean
thought  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

a student of Protean
thought  Wrote:

Yo is missing the big picture.

Yo can not sue the king unless he allows yo to.

I gave yo the analogy of a nation wide general store.

yo ho ho!

Yo ain't part of the divine order...

so yo,

get yo ass back to work, yo!

that's a terribly flawed analogy and you shoudl feel very stupid

you shoudl explain the flaw.

lol shoudl

There are good people in positions of power still, the hidden hand isn't everywhere. The system can still work for us if proper effort is applied.

Most of us are gonna leave it up to Jesus, though. Because of this, I kind of hope they aren't just using prophecy as a blueprint like Bill Cooper suggested. It indeed would be an ingenious way to stifle a good chunk of the opposition right off the bat.

Post: #51

Up YOURS Govt!  Wrote:

with Florida Senator Marco Rubio the prime candidate to take the VP slot.

Marco Antonio Rubio = 203/256
Karl Christian Rove = 203/256

Interesting forward/reverse numerology match, and forward/reverse is very difficult to match.

Post: #52

Libertarian Hippy  Wrote:

Up YOURS Govt!  Wrote:

Bilderberg’s decision to hold the conference in the United States is directly connected with the key role the secretive clique of industrialists, bankers, academic leaders and media figureheads will play in influencing the 2012 presidential election.

That is one of the dumbest things I've read in years... "proximity = influence"

Yeah? How so? Your either too stupid to live or you are in denial. No in between.

Post: #53

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Up YOURS Govt!  Wrote:

with Florida Senator Marco Rubio the prime candidate to take the VP slot.

Marco Antonio Rubio = 203/256
Karl Christian Rove = 203/256

Interesting forward/reverse numerology match, and forward/reverse is very difficult to match.

Marco Rubio = 115/155
John Paul II = 115/155

This is the first match in my data base for John Paul II (same for Karl Christian Rove).

Willard Mitt Romney = 231/228
(no match)

Mitt Romney = 152/118
Extremists = 152/118

Note: I try and only keep very popular words and names in my database.

If there is anything to alphanumeric resonance, I can see why Newt Gingrich wasn't very popular:

Newt Gingrich = 137/187
Richard Nixon = 137/187
Washington DC = 137/187

Post: #54

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Up YOURS Govt!  Wrote:

with Florida Senator Marco Rubio the prime candidate to take the VP slot.

Marco Antonio Rubio = 203/256
Karl Christian Rove = 203/256

Interesting forward/reverse numerology match, and forward/reverse is very difficult to match.

Marco Rubio = 115/155
John Paul II = 115/155

This is the first match in my data base for John Paul II (same for Karl Christian Rove).

Willard Mitt Romney = 231/228
(no match)

Mitt Romney = 152/118
Extremists = 152/118

Note: I try and only keep very popular words and names in my database.

If there is anything to alphanumeric resonance, I can see why Newt Gingrich wasn't very popular:

Newt Gingrich = 137/187
Richard Nixon = 137/187
Washington DC = 137/187

The elites use this methodology in their own work, you very well could be onto something.

Post: #55

LoP Guest  Wrote:

a student of Protean
thought  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

that's a terribly flawed analogy and you shoudl feel very stupid

you shoudl explain the flaw.

lol shoudl

There are good people in positions of power still, the hidden hand isn't everywhere. The system can still work for us if proper effort is applied.

Most of us are gonna leave it up to Jesus, though. Because of this, I kind of hope they aren't just using prophecy as a blueprint like Bill Cooper suggested. It indeed would be an ingenious way to stifle a good chunk of the opposition right off the bat.

just for your info....there is no santa

and if I might add , you sound like you have absolutely no idea how central banking works....and what that even means

Post: #56

all I know is I'm going so I can get Charlie Roses's autograph....he so dreamy and dignified

Post: #57

"Chantilly, Virginia "

this is where they spy on citizens (internet spies)

truth

http://www.pseudoreality.org/

Post: #58

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

a student of Protean
thought  Wrote:

you shoudl explain the flaw.

lol shoudl

There are good people in positions of power still, the hidden hand isn't everywhere. The system can still work for us if proper effort is applied.

Most of us are gonna leave it up to Jesus, though. Because of this, I kind of hope they aren't just using prophecy as a blueprint like Bill Cooper suggested. It indeed would be an ingenious way to stifle a good chunk of the opposition right off the bat.

just for your info....there is no santa

and if I might add , you sound like you have absolutely no idea how central banking works....and what that even means

you can stop talking in circles now. you're flushing yourself down the drain of incoherence

Post: #59

Ok. So now we come to the Bread and Butter of the Conspiracy Theorists' arsenal: The Bilderbergers AKA The Bilderberg Group who are alledgedly ruling the world or making decisions that are to be followed implicitly by governmental leaders. But who are they?

Some have said they are top-ranking corporate honchos and meet in secured public areas and make decisions. Apparently, and alledgedly, intelligence agencies are supposed to hang out with them and the hotels they go to are supposedly locked down tight, people told to leave and that sort of thing, and also be pretty well guarded. But is this really the case?

While I can understand the point they are making and the statements regarding them, after doing plenty of research into this, looking at both sides, I have come to the conclusion that this is nothing but pure paranoia and completely devoid of anything resembling reality.

Look at it this way: If there was a group capable of influencing world leaders, changing history at the drop of a hat, and making policy changes and telling governments to implement them, would they really meet in a public place? No way. They would be meeting in a very secret place, where no one would ever find out completely protected and be able to maintain a very extremely secured communications system to send their decisions to the world leaders.

I believe the meetings are held by corporate honchos but not for world domination or the New World Order. No one is told to evacuate these hotels, nor do they go on lockdown. That would be ridiculous as those people told to leave would have to find other accomodations and I don't think this would sit well with guests there who would raise a gigantic fuss about it which would make the national newscasts. And don't tell me it already has and the NWO has censored or blocked it. Not gonna work.

No intelligence agency honchos are there either. There is no logical reason to be there if the hotel is on lockdown and the guests are vacated. Why would they spy on the people attending? That doesn't make sense or follow any sort of logic.

What do they talk about? Is it important to the public? Probably nothing but shop talk, see how things are in relation to their companies and the like. It's not important to the public and we don't need to know. Albeit it would be interesting if the stockholders got their panties in a knot the size of Jupiter and complained. Very interesting indeed.

Why the extreme security measures? to protect said honchos. And also to keep the media from snooping around. This is what amazes me about the Conspiracy Theorists: They say the media is all controlled by the NWO. It's all managed and they do not tell the truth. yet, they seem to always quote *the same media* and use newscasts and the like to prove their points. Not to mention the fact that the media doesn't need to be snooping around the meeting place either.

Yes, it is interesting that this would take place. Yes, they would be a little "secretive" about it. Sure it does seem to be extremely suspicious and all that, especially when some of the members alledgedly "speaks out" about it. But they really don't say what goes on in there and that's good. No one needs to know. If they want to say something, then they will. Some may say that means they are planning something major and are up to no good. I say they want privacy and a venue to discuss matters.

What is also funny is the fact that Communist Supporter Alex Jones and his ilk were seemingly at the hotel (a Marriott) where a Bilderberg Meeting was supposed to be taking place. He had a room there, lights out (for whatever strange stupid reason), had cameras set up and kept going on how he was gonna be in there at the last possible instant, saying it was gonna go on lockdown and the like. Funny thing is, if it was so secure, he would not have remained inside at that point as they would be going through the rooms making sure no one unauthorized was there. So nice try Alex!

Then, as he was leaving, someone left right behind him and he was going on how they were "following" them. This was actually abruptly hillarious and severe paroxysms (fits) of laughter ensued and I nearly passed out 58 times from it as this was going on. Eventually, the person following pulled in to a restaurant (where he was actually going anyways) and the "following" ended.

So, I do not think there is any truth to the so-called "Bilderberger" stories nor do I believe they all meet in public areas, lock down hotels, shoo guests out to hold "secret meetings" to run the world. Isn't going to happen since there is no logic to it. It would have to be in more secured conditions, tighter security, and use a highly secured encrypted command satellite link and have it bounced across plenty of encrypted satellites to issue the decisions they make.

However, as usual, the immaturity will ensue, calling me all sorts of names including "traitor" and "shill", "asleep", "sheep", or a combination or all at once. I do not care. This is merely stating what I believe this to be which is American. Freedom of Speech rules. Period.

Post: #60

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

***Persona Management***
http://www.google.com/patents/US20090313274.pdf

Persona management entails the use of software by which to facilitate the use of multiple fake online personas, or "sockpuppets," generally for the use of propaganda, disinformation, or as a surveillance method by which to discover details of a human target via social interactions. Various incarnations of this capability have been discovered in the form of patents, U.S. military contracts, and e-mail discussions among intelligence contractors.

***Known Aspects***
In the wake of the HBGary investigation, it was discovered that the federal contractor had bid on a call for applications by the USAF to develop persona software for apparent propaganda and/or infiltration purposes. CENTCOM later admitted to using such capabilities abroad, but denies using them in the English language or in a way that would explicit target U.S. citizens, an action which would be illegal. Global Business Solutions and Associates LLC, Uk Plus Logistics, Ltd., NevinTelecom, Bunker Communications and Planmatrix LLC., were also among those bidding to provide such software, according to documents discovered by Raw Story. The contract was later discovered to have been won by Ntrepid, which still later was confirmed to be a wholly-owned subsidiary of Cubic Corporation and led in large part by execs and employees of the latter firm.
On October 15th, 2010, HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr emailed Mantech CEO Robert Frisbie about considering Palantir Technologies for help "..on some of the integration for link analysis and data correlation. We will likely be able to get into some of the persona management logic.." Barr here attached the PDF titled Social Media Persona Development. At some point, Barr also deployed a primitive single persona, intended to represent an intelligence contracting employee and USAF veteran, on Facebook and Twitter. During his attempt to infiltrate Anonymous, Barr also planned to create at least two fake personas with the intention of using the first to "discredit" the second in order to gain influence within the movement. In both instances, Barr seems to have relied on manual trickery rather than employing specialized software of the sort that's been developed elsewhere.

Patent 20090313274, created in an apparent join effort by IBM and the U.S. military (four members of which are listed as inventors), describes specific workings of a reasonably advanced persona management system, or at least a component thereof, providing software-based linguistic capabilities in order to retain "linguistic integrity" from conversation to conversation.

DARPA's July 2011 BAA (Broad Agency Announcement) entitled Social Media in Strategic Communications indicates that such software will increasingly form a broad programmatic area of military operations, rather than being acquired piecemeal or in covert dealings, as has been the case in the past.

Firms known to be involved
Cubic Corporation/Ntrepid/Abraxas
C5i
Mantech
HBGary Federal