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Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
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04-25-2012 07:40 AM

 



Post: #61
RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
Sitting Lunatic  Wrote:
Ok. So now we come to the Bread and Butter of the Conspiracy Theorists' arsenal: The Bilderbergers AKA The Bilderberg Group who are alledgedly ruling the world or making decisions that are to be followed implicitly by governmental leaders. But who are they?

Some have said they are top-ranking corporate honchos and meet in secured public areas and make decisions. Apparently, and alledgedly, intelligence agencies are supposed to hang out with them and the hotels they go to are supposedly locked down tight, people told to leave and that sort of thing, and also be pretty well guarded. But is this really the case?

While I can understand the point they are making and the statements regarding them, after doing plenty of research into this, looking at both sides, I have come to the conclusion that this is nothing but pure paranoia and completely devoid of anything resembling reality.

Look at it this way: If there was a group capable of influencing world leaders, changing history at the drop of a hat, and making policy changes and telling governments to implement them, would they really meet in a public place? No way. They would be meeting in a very secret place, where no one would ever find out completely protected and be able to maintain a very extremely secured communications system to send their decisions to the world leaders.

I believe the meetings are held by corporate honchos but not for world domination or the New World Order. No one is told to evacuate these hotels, nor do they go on lockdown. That would be ridiculous as those people told to leave would have to find other accomodations and I don't think this would sit well with guests there who would raise a gigantic fuss about it which would make the national newscasts. And don't tell me it already has and the NWO has censored or blocked it. Not gonna work.

No intelligence agency honchos are there either. There is no logical reason to be there if the hotel is on lockdown and the guests are vacated. Why would they spy on the people attending? That doesn't make sense or follow any sort of logic.

What do they talk about? Is it important to the public? Probably nothing but shop talk, see how things are in relation to their companies and the like. It's not important to the public and we don't need to know. Albeit it would be interesting if the stockholders got their panties in a knot the size of Jupiter and complained. Very interesting indeed.

Why the extreme security measures? to protect said honchos. And also to keep the media from snooping around. This is what amazes me about the Conspiracy Theorists: They say the media is all controlled by the NWO. It's all managed and they do not tell the truth. yet, they seem to always quote *the same media* and use newscasts and the like to prove their points. Not to mention the fact that the media doesn't need to be snooping around the meeting place either.

Yes, it is interesting that this would take place. Yes, they would be a little "secretive" about it. Sure it does seem to be extremely suspicious and all that, especially when some of the members alledgedly "speaks out" about it. But they really don't say what goes on in there and that's good. No one needs to know. If they want to say something, then they will. Some may say that means they are planning something major and are up to no good. I say they want privacy and a venue to discuss matters.

What is also funny is the fact that Communist Supporter Alex Jones and his ilk were seemingly at the hotel (a Marriott) where a Bilderberg Meeting was supposed to be taking place. He had a room there, lights out (for whatever strange stupid reason), had cameras set up and kept going on how he was gonna be in there at the last possible instant, saying it was gonna go on lockdown and the like. Funny thing is, if it was so secure, he would not have remained inside at that point as they would be going through the rooms making sure no one unauthorized was there. So nice try Alex!

Then, as he was leaving, someone left right behind him and he was going on how they were "following" them. This was actually abruptly hillarious and severe paroxysms (fits) of laughter ensued and I nearly passed out 58 times from it as this was going on. Eventually, the person following pulled in to a restaurant (where he was actually going anyways) and the "following" ended.

So, I do not think there is any truth to the so-called "Bilderberger" stories nor do I believe they all meet in public areas, lock down hotels, shoo guests out to hold "secret meetings" to run the world. Isn't going to happen since there is no logic to it. It would have to be in more secured conditions, tighter security, and use a highly secured encrypted command satellite link and have it bounced across plenty of encrypted satellites to issue the decisions they make.

However, as usual, the immaturity will ensue, calling me all sorts of names including "traitor" and "shill", "asleep", "sheep", or a combination or all at once. I do not care. This is merely stating what I believe this to be which is American. Freedom of Speech rules. Period.

a) you must have never read The Scarlett Letter
b) the Bilderberg Group is just one of several international organizations working their own magic on the grand world stage. of course a lot of the overarching schemes are well hidden from the public light
c) you've never listened to Alex Jones if you think he's a communist supporter. he isn't convinced that Russia is completely overtaken by the globalists and he appears on RT every so often because they report a lot of actual news, so are willing to give him airtime. none of this means he lies about being pro-freedom and anti-taxmonster
d) i can copypaste too, but i'm above that
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04-25-2012 07:51 AM

 



Post: #62
teach RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
Extremely interesting... And I do mean *extremely* interesting. Not sure precisely how this would fit into things, but I would assume it doesn't. Still, interesting.

It's almost as if that's directed towards me, but maybe I am being paranoid. Probably.

Just because someone explains something opposite to what is being stated as being a conspiracy or is opposite to a Conspiracy Theory doesn't make them government agents, "Traitors", "shills", "asleep", "Sheep", and other like labels, or anything of the lot. It makes the person making the statement seem to enjoy or accept Communism, dictatorships, terrorism, and the like. The mature way is to discuss the matter in a polite way, indicate where such statements are wrong, and explain. I am up for that and if that is done, I will respond accordingly. That's what makes this Country great. Its what makes Freedom excellent. Its also what Democracy is all about. In other words, if you are free to make statements and accusations like that, presenting theories as truths, then we have the right to counter such statements, presenting our views on it, and make statements of fact. You do not have to accept it, and if you don't that is perfectly fine. Name calling and labelling as stated above is a sign of immaturity. If you do it, I respond in kind. If you don't and act mature, you will be fine.
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04-25-2012 07:56 AM

 



Post: #63
RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
Sitting Lunatic  Wrote:
Extremely interesting... And I do mean *extremely* interesting. Not sure precisely how this would fit into things, but I would assume it doesn't. Still, interesting.

It's almost as if that's directed towards me, but maybe I am being paranoid. Probably.

Just because someone explains something opposite to what is being stated as being a conspiracy or is opposite to a Conspiracy Theory doesn't make them government agents, "Traitors", "shills", "asleep", "Sheep", and other like labels, or anything of the lot. It makes the person making the statement seem to enjoy or accept Communism, dictatorships, terrorism, and the like. The mature way is to discuss the matter in a polite way, indicate where such statements are wrong, and explain. I am up for that and if that is done, I will respond accordingly. That's what makes this Country great. Its what makes Freedom excellent. Its also what Democracy is all about. In other words, if you are free to make statements and accusations like that, presenting theories as truths, then we have the right to counter such statements, presenting our views on it, and make statements of fact. You do not have to accept it, and if you don't that is perfectly fine. Name calling and labelling as stated above is a sign of immaturity. If you do it, I respond in kind. If you don't and act mature, you will be fine.

what, am i the only one who noticed that your post reeked of automated copypasta?
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04-25-2012 08:02 AM

 



Post: #64
teach RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
LoP Guest  Wrote:
Sitting Lunatic  Wrote:
Ok. So now we come to the Bread and Butter of the Conspiracy Theorists' arsenal: The Bilderbergers AKA The Bilderberg Group who are alledgedly ruling the world or making decisions that are to be followed implicitly by governmental leaders. But who are they?

Some have said they are top-ranking corporate honchos and meet in secured public areas and make decisions. Apparently, and alledgedly, intelligence agencies are supposed to hang out with them and the hotels they go to are supposedly locked down tight, people told to leave and that sort of thing, and also be pretty well guarded. But is this really the case?

While I can understand the point they are making and the statements regarding them, after doing plenty of research into this, looking at both sides, I have come to the conclusion that this is nothing but pure paranoia and completely devoid of anything resembling reality.

Look at it this way: If there was a group capable of influencing world leaders, changing history at the drop of a hat, and making policy changes and telling governments to implement them, would they really meet in a public place? No way. They would be meeting in a very secret place, where no one would ever find out completely protected and be able to maintain a very extremely secured communications system to send their decisions to the world leaders.

I believe the meetings are held by corporate honchos but not for world domination or the New World Order. No one is told to evacuate these hotels, nor do they go on lockdown. That would be ridiculous as those people told to leave would have to find other accomodations and I don't think this would sit well with guests there who would raise a gigantic fuss about it which would make the national newscasts. And don't tell me it already has and the NWO has censored or blocked it. Not gonna work.

No intelligence agency honchos are there either. There is no logical reason to be there if the hotel is on lockdown and the guests are vacated. Why would they spy on the people attending? That doesn't make sense or follow any sort of logic.

What do they talk about? Is it important to the public? Probably nothing but shop talk, see how things are in relation to their companies and the like. It's not important to the public and we don't need to know. Albeit it would be interesting if the stockholders got their panties in a knot the size of Jupiter and complained. Very interesting indeed.

Why the extreme security measures? to protect said honchos. And also to keep the media from snooping around. This is what amazes me about the Conspiracy Theorists: They say the media is all controlled by the NWO. It's all managed and they do not tell the truth. yet, they seem to always quote *the same media* and use newscasts and the like to prove their points. Not to mention the fact that the media doesn't need to be snooping around the meeting place either.

Yes, it is interesting that this would take place. Yes, they would be a little "secretive" about it. Sure it does seem to be extremely suspicious and all that, especially when some of the members alledgedly "speaks out" about it. But they really don't say what goes on in there and that's good. No one needs to know. If they want to say something, then they will. Some may say that means they are planning something major and are up to no good. I say they want privacy and a venue to discuss matters.

What is also funny is the fact that Communist Supporter Alex Jones and his ilk were seemingly at the hotel (a Marriott) where a Bilderberg Meeting was supposed to be taking place. He had a room there, lights out (for whatever strange stupid reason), had cameras set up and kept going on how he was gonna be in there at the last possible instant, saying it was gonna go on lockdown and the like. Funny thing is, if it was so secure, he would not have remained inside at that point as they would be going through the rooms making sure no one unauthorized was there. So nice try Alex!

Then, as he was leaving, someone left right behind him and he was going on how they were "following" them. This was actually abruptly hillarious and severe paroxysms (fits) of laughter ensued and I nearly passed out 58 times from it as this was going on. Eventually, the person following pulled in to a restaurant (where he was actually going anyways) and the "following" ended.

So, I do not think there is any truth to the so-called "Bilderberger" stories nor do I believe they all meet in public areas, lock down hotels, shoo guests out to hold "secret meetings" to run the world. Isn't going to happen since there is no logic to it. It would have to be in more secured conditions, tighter security, and use a highly secured encrypted command satellite link and have it bounced across plenty of encrypted satellites to issue the decisions they make.

However, as usual, the immaturity will ensue, calling me all sorts of names including "traitor" and "shill", "asleep", "sheep", or a combination or all at once. I do not care. This is merely stating what I believe this to be which is American. Freedom of Speech rules. Period.

a) you must have never read The Scarlett Letter
b) the Bilderberg Group is just one of several international organizations working their own magic on the grand world stage. of course a lot of the overarching schemes are well hidden from the public light
c) you've never listened to Alex Jones if you think he's a communist supporter. he isn't convinced that Russia is completely overtaken by the globalists and he appears on RT every so often because they report a lot of actual news, so are willing to give him airtime. none of this means he lies about being pro-freedom and anti-taxmonster
d) i can copypaste too, but i'm above that

Responding in order:

A) No, never have. Seen the miniseries on Masterpiece Theater on PBS a long time ago. Am looking forward to reading it, though.
B) Not really. I don't agree with it. Sorry. Not going to convince me that is the case. Yes, I know it seems like it, but its simply not the case. That's how I see it. Nothing more.
C) Yes, I have listened to and watched Alex Jones. I have seen several of his documentaries, including his 9/11 one, Police State 4: The Rise of FEMA and several others. I plan to keep watching them too. They are very good productions. (I am a documentary buff) But he does hate America. His statements and accusations make him a bona fide America Hater and Communist Supporter. If he supported his statements and accusations with bona fide cold hard evidence then I would throw my support behind him. Just running your mouth and making inferences based on illogic isn't going to cut it with me.
D) Copypasting? Eh? I am not sure what you mean by that. I don't engage in that either. What I say on here is done by my fingers hitting the keys on the keyboard. That is all. There is no need to do any "copypasting". Quite an absurd and extremely illogical statement.
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04-25-2012 08:19 AM

 



Post: #65
RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>thinks Alex hates America and supports communism [he is very ademant on this point, you are plain wrong]

>thinks he never cites evidence [everything he reports is cited]

>doesn't know what i mean by the words copy and paste [is currently on a computer]

>has obviously not paid enough attention to the world around him

Jerry1
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04-29-2012 07:36 PM

 



Post: #66
banana RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
The attitude that many Americans have about the Bilderberg Group and Trilateral Commission is pretty scary. I asked one person if he had ever heard of them, and he said "no, I don't keep up with conspiracy theories." Global elitists meeting behind closed doors to plan out a one-world government, and it's being written off as a conspiracy theory. I guess the transition to a dictatorship will be quite easy if that's how people think. If you don't believe that martial law could happen here, just take a look at http://www.martiallawusa.com. All the proof is there
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Post: #67
RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
golly, NATO, G8, Russians, Bilderbergers all at once?
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Post: #68
RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
Vegas  Wrote:
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Yep, some are still undecided which horse they want to win.Lmao

Americ a will never change :(

As the Bilderberg's have stated, they always win... They own both horses...

This...

Ron Paul 2012...The R3volution Continues:
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Post: #69
horn RE: Secretive Bilderberg Group Set To Meet In Virginia May 31st-June 3rd
The latest info on Bilderberg Group and Bohemian Grove is revealed in the recent documentary by Anthony J Hilder, ILLUMINAZI: BILDERBERG WEST BOHEMIAN GROVE, resulting from the 2011 Occupy Bohemian Grove movement.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dFINOWU2ec
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