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Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
Dino
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Can Earthquakes Be Predicted?

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We see that these descriptions make major earthquakes look much like violent eruptions, quite similar to gas eruptions from volcanoes or mud volcanoes. The airborne noises, the flames, the air pollution are all similar, and while most of the intense effects take place at the time of the quake, some of the effects occur as precursors and cannot therefore be ascribed to secondary effects of the mechanical deformation of the ground. It seems very strange that in all the attempts to predict earthquakes, no gas observations are included. Highly accurate measurements of the distortion of the ground represent the main effort, since the current theory has earthquakes resulting from a gradually augmenting stress in the rocks until they reach the breaking strain and the earthquake occurs. It is therefore supposed that one can measure the building up of the stress by the slight deformation prior to a quake. However, as a means to predicting earthquakes, this method has been entirely unsuccessful. The ground does distort on occasions, but not by any unusual amount before an earthquake.

The evacuation of Haicheng two hours before a devastating quake is an example of a successful prediction, and it was based mainly on gas effects such as a cloud of warmer air and fog developing above the known faultline, strange and nauseating smells and changes in groundwater levels. The same effects have been mentioned in very many of the ancient records.

Gases can indeed have a lot to do with earthquakes. A large volume of gas entering the crust of the Earth from deeper levels and at a high pressure, will greatly change the mechanical properties of the rock. Pore-spaces will be inflated, and the overburden weight of the rock will be effectively relieved by the pressure of the gas. The great weight of the overburden would normally have resulted in high internal friction, opposing any slippage at all but the shallowest levels. But with gas effectively bearing the overburden, slippage can occur much more easily. Much smaller values of stress in the rock will then be sufficient to cause a quake.

The absence of high stresses along the San Andreas fault was indeed a surprise to the investigators, when they had a chance to make such measurements in the deep well drilled at Cajon Pass in Southern California. They also failed to find there the extra heat that the known past slippage should have left behind, had it taken place without gas levitation.

When gas has invaded an area of the crust, it generally shows some emission at the surface that can be observed, and that results in the various effects mentioned. Of course the gases that were in the pore-spaces to start with are pushed up first, before the "new" gas has got to the surface. This brings up smells which cause surprise or consternation among many animals; it brings up more carbon-dioxide and less oxygen than air has normally, and this drives animals out of burrows; it brings up humidity and temperature of the sub-surface and thus frequently makes a fog. This contains more of the heavy CO2 molecule than the average air, and can therefore make a warmer cloud that stays on the ground instead of rising rapidly. Radioactive gases that are normally generated in the ground make a prominent appearance as they are flushed from the ground.

These signs should be taken to mean that the rock underneath has now suddenly lost much of its strength, and even small stresses will allow it to break. There was no particular build-up of stress prior to the quake, and measurements of this are therefore useless as predictors. The sudden event was the gas invasion that weakened the rock, and it is on this that a prediction method has to be based. During earthquakes and after, a lot more gas escape can usually be observed, and by then the deep source gas may have made its way to the surface. This is often combustible, probably mainly methane as this is in most common gas in deep rocks, and it often catches fire.

In China, in Japan, in the Soviet Union, much more attention is paid to gas phenomena. Japan even has a "Laboratory of Earthquake Chemistry." The US is far behind in this field, not because it does not have the technology, but just because it took a wrong choice some time ago, and now does not wish to change course. But the citizens of earthquake-prone regions will be more concerned with obtaining a warning than to be party to a scientific controversy. Sub-surface gas observations are simple and comparatively inexpensive, such as changes in groundwater levels in water wells, or changes in gas pressure above a water table. It is high time that California and the Central Mississippi region obtained the knowledge and experience in this field that will be necessary to establish a meaningful prediction service. Instrumentation operated by scientists is one aspect of this; public earthquake education and a reporting network is another, to assure the widest possible coverage for the observation of the many phenomena that may be relevant for predictions. One wonders how many such observations go unreported because their relation to earthquakes is not generally known.

http://trilogymedia.com.au/Thomas_Gold/eyewit.html


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Sign one: Unusual behavior of animals
Animals like snakes, rats, dogs etc. have been noted to behave differently before a massive earthquake occurs. Various accounts of such anticipation by animals have been noted through history. Many believe that animals can feel the earth vibrating before humans do. Others also believe that animals can detect the gas released by the earth or electrical charges in the air before a large earthquake. However what animals exactly react to continues to remain a mystery and a topic of study for many researchers.

Sign four: Predictions by ‘sensitives’
Many people, termed as ‘sensitive’ are noted to have definite symptoms before earthquakes are about to occur. These include migraine attacks, inner ear tones or screeching sounds. These symptoms are also noted to disappear after the earthquake passes by. While this has been noted in some people, it is still difficult to predict the epicenter of earthquakes or the exact date and time. Various sensitives are now trying to coordinate their symptoms, to predict this.


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Curious cloud formations linked to quakes
CAN unusual clouds signal the possibility of an impending earthquake? That’s the question being asked following the discovery of distinctive cloud formations above an active fault in Iran before each of two large earthquakes occurred.

Geophysicists Guangmeng Guo and Bin Wang of Nanyang Normal University in Henan, China, noticed a gap in the clouds in satellite images from December 2004 that precisely matched the location of the main fault in southern Iran. It stretched for hundreds of kilometres, was visible for several hours and remained in the same place, although the clouds around it were moving. At the same time, thermal images of the ground showed that the temperature was higher along the fault. Sixty-nine days later, on 22 February 2005, an earthquake of magnitude 6.4 hit the area, killing more than 600 people.

In December 2005, a similar formation again appeared in the clouds for a few hours. Sixty-four days later, an earthquake of magnitude 6 shook the region (International Journal of Remote Sensing, vol 29, p 1921).

Guo and Wang suggest that an eruption of hot gases from inside the fault could have caused water in the clouds to evaporate. Another idea is that ionisation may be involved: Friedemann Freund at the NASA Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California, recently demonstrated that when rocks are squeezed, positively charged ions form in the air above. The trouble is that ions usually help to form clouds, not dissipate them.

The authors say that if recognisable cloud formations precede large quakes, they could be used for prediction, but other seismologists are sceptical. “There is no physical model that explains why something would suddenly occur two months before an earthquake, and then shut off and not occur again,” says Mike Blanpied of the US Geological Survey’s Earthquake Hazards Program.

http://pinewooddesign.co.uk/2008/05/12/e...rediction/

Before the earthquake around 2:00, the sky appears Choi Wan users to use mobile phones to take screen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43I4YRMm...r_embedded

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Studies have shown birds lay less eggs than normal during the interval before an earthquake. Are all of your hens suddenly not laying?

http://www.wikihow.com/Know-Naturally-wh...ill-Strike

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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
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Dino
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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
Zardoz  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:05 PM)
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Interesting!

Thanks Zardoz, especially thought this paragraph was relevant....

Gases can indeed have a lot to do with earthquakes. A large volume of gas entering the crust of the Earth from deeper levels and at a high pressure, will greatly change the mechanical properties of the rock. Pore-spaces will be inflated, and the overburden weight of the rock will be effectively relieved by the pressure of the gas. The great weight of the overburden would normally have resulted in high internal friction, opposing any slippage at all but the shallowest levels. But with gas effectively bearing the overburden, slippage can occur much more easily. Much smaller values of stress in the rock will then be sufficient to cause a quake.

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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
While strange clouds and odd lights have been seen before large earthquakes, the images of clouds and the 'rainbow' you have provided are neither predictive or unusual.

From low cumuluous, to midlevel altostratus to high cirrostratus, waves happen. I have many hundreds of images of clouds undulating.

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The Schezuan sighting is called a circumhorizon arc. It is in the right place and at the right time of day and season for this to have occured. I have 29 separate instances photographed since 2004, with a handful more of sightings when I didn't have a camera handy.

In all those local sightings we have NEVER had any earthquake of note within a week. It is not a precursor to an earthquake.


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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
I don't think you can.

Of all the large earthquakes in the past I don't think anyone knew they were about to happen.

I've been in a pretty significant earthquake and nothing unusual happened before it.

And I've seen those rainbow clouds before now were I live, I don't live in earthquake territory anymore.
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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
Dino  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:02 PM)
Sign one: Unusual behavior of animals
Animals like snakes, rats, dogs etc. have been noted to behave differently before a massive earthquake occurs. Various accounts of such anticipation by animals have been noted through history. Many believe that animals can feel the earth vibrating before humans do. Others also believe that animals can detect the gas released by the earth or electrical charges in the air before a large earthquake. However what animals exactly react to continues to remain a mystery and a topic of study for many researchers.

Sign four: Predictions by ‘sensitives’
Many people, termed as ‘sensitive’ are noted to have definite symptoms before earthquakes are about to occur. These include migraine attacks, inner ear tones or screeching sounds. These symptoms are also noted to disappear after the earthquake passes by. While this has been noted in some people, it is still difficult to predict the epicenter of earthquakes or the exact date and time. Various sensitives are now trying to coordinate their symptoms, to predict this.

Study demonstrates that headaches increase before an earthquake:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/k70313885u683813/

"it was noted that their incidence had increased significantly within 48 h prior to earthquakes from an incidence of 17% to 58% in the first survey"

It notes positive ions, which increase serotonin levels in the blood and also brain, which cause the blood vessels to expand, trigger headaches.

The toads before the l'aquila earthquake were known to have fled approximately 3 days before it occurred.


Personally speaking, I think brazil will be the next 9+ earthquake judging by the TEC information I've read, but it's difficult to tell when it will occur. Not without 24 hour monitoring and I don't have those kinds of resources.

How to filter radioactive water:
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Disturbed  Wrote: (01-03-2014 07:10 AM)
Would be really nice to get rid of some of the OCD here.
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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
czygyny  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:22 PM)
While strange clouds and odd lights have been seen before large earthquakes, the images of clouds and the 'rainbow' you have provided are neither predictive or unusual.

From low cumuluous, to midlevel altostratus to high cirrostratus, waves happen. I have many hundreds of images of clouds undulating.

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...4E5800.jpg

The Schezuan sighting is called a circumhorizon arc. It is in the right place and at the right time of day and season for this to have occured. I have 29 separate instances photographed since 2004, with a handful more of sightings when I didn't have a camera handy.

In all those local sightings we have NEVER had any earthquake of note within a week. It is not a precursor to an earthquake.


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i thought the rainbow clouds were from the sun shining through the metallic crap in chemtrails..
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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:59 PM)
czygyny  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:22 PM)
While strange clouds and odd lights have been seen before large earthquakes, the images of clouds and the 'rainbow' you have provided are neither predictive or unusual.

From low cumuluous, to midlevel altostratus to high cirrostratus, waves happen. I have many hundreds of images of clouds undulating.

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...4E5800.jpg

The Schezuan sighting is called a circumhorizon arc. It is in the right place and at the right time of day and season for this to have occured. I have 29 separate instances photographed since 2004, with a handful more of sightings when I didn't have a camera handy.

In all those local sightings we have NEVER had any earthquake of note within a week. It is not a precursor to an earthquake.


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There seems to be a calm sound just prior to an earthquake.

No elf interference-just the energy of still silence
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Excellent post Dino.

Here's some similar ideas:

"Earthquakes are on the rise, across the world..Its important to know about the natural precursors that occur before an earthquake strikes

. In 1975 in Arisham China, zookeepers observed wild and domestic animals becoming fearful and agitated. It was reported to local civil authorities. In fact they are now required to report any unusual behaviors to local authorities at all times.

The earthquake occurred shortly afterwards. Animals become very sensitive, hours or even days ahead of a powerful earthquake.

Animals are sensitive to celestial phenomenon. The moon has an effect on bodily fluids and blood stream. The moon strongly influences the tides of the ocean.

Animals exhibit odd behavior..They become very sensitive hours or even days before a powerful earthquake hits the region.

The entire animal kingdom becomes disturbed, highly restless. They move in fear without any sense of direction. Rodents like mice, or rats go into a panic. Domestic animals like dogs, or cats will struggle against being restrained.

They may even turn on their owner. Birds will leave their trees and fly low towards the ground, in an agitated state. Elephants and giraffes will flee towards the hills or mountainous areas.

Mike Malloy, a former sea captain, from Norfolk Virgina, reports "last year, while standing on a shore in Palm Beach, Florida" was stunned,"to observe the unusual behavor of thousands of fish. The fish began leaping high,.out of the water. The fish simultaneously leaped into the air. This happened before a small tremor rattled the area. Mike, stated, "he had never seen anything like this before, It was unnerving, to say the least".

Sharks often come to shore, before a tsuamani rolls in, after the occurence of a large earthsquake.

A few months before earthquakes occur, the average temperature of the area keeps increasing. On the day of the earthquake, the temperature is 5 to 9 degrees Celsius above normal.

Before an earthquake occurs there will be a sudden rise or fall in water levels in rivers or wells. Sometimes the water becomes muddy or a fountain may occur in the well.This may occur 3 days before a earthquake hits. The water may even begin to bubble.

Seismic electromagnetic precursor is a very reliable indicator. 10-20 hours before the quake, sub surface temperatures will rise. As a result the geomagnetic field is reduced

The reduction will adversely affect the propagation of electromagnetic waves. This will disrupt radios, telephones and television. A continuous disturbance will be heard on telephones. 100-150 minutes before an earthquake occurrence, mobile phones will malfunction.

In hospitals, 10 or 20 hours before, doctors and nurses have reported many highly sensitive patients, become highly disturbed. Patients will exhibit a sudden rise in high blood pressure, headaches, migraines, heart attacks, and respiratory disorders. The best indicator of an impending earthquake is the high numbers of children being delivered. The rates are 7-8 times above normal on the day an earthquake hits the area!"
http://donnasuthard.hubpages.com/hub/nat...earthquake

"Atmosphere Above Japan Heated Rapidly Before M9 Earthquake

Infrared emissions above the epicenter increased dramatically in the days before the devastating earthquake in Japan, say scientists."
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/424...before-m9/
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Dino  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:02 PM)
The toads before the l'aquila earthquake were known to have fled approximately 3 days before it occurred.

The same earthquake was predicted by an Italian scientist based on rocks degassing, I think it was Radon.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr...o-giuliani

There was also an electrical atmospheric signal noted in Japan at the time of the Fukushima quake.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/03/po...iscovered/

Quote:

Most scientists believe that earthquakes are inherently unpredictable, and reports of various kinds of earthquake precursor signals have been difficult to verify. However, in a new study, Heki reports a possible ionospheric precursor to the devastating 11 March 2011 magnitude 9 Tohoku earthquake in Japan. Analyzing data from the Japanese GPS network, he detects an increase in the total electron content (TEC) in the ionosphere above the focal region of the earthquake beginning about 40 minutes before the quake.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-11-2012 12:20 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:59 PM)
czygyny  Wrote: (09-10-2012 11:22 PM)
While strange clouds and odd lights have been seen before large earthquakes, the images of clouds and the 'rainbow' you have provided are neither predictive or unusual.

From low cumuluous, to midlevel altostratus to high cirrostratus, waves happen. I have many hundreds of images of clouds undulating.

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...4E5800.jpg

The Schezuan sighting is called a circumhorizon arc. It is in the right place and at the right time of day and season for this to have occured. I have 29 separate instances photographed since 2004, with a handful more of sightings when I didn't have a camera handy.

In all those local sightings we have NEVER had any earthquake of note within a week. It is not a precursor to an earthquake.


Pctpanho
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Well that's too bad for you. I have no doubt that there are unusual things that go on before and during earthquakes, but you are a fool to think that either of these things are earthquake precursors.

Both of these common, ordinary atmospheric phenomena are easily researched. You'll even see rippled clouds in satellite images where the prevailing wind blows over mountain ranges. You'll see ripples in sand and in water, too, if you will bother to look.
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RE: Signs to look for just before an earthquake....
Yes, they can be predicted:

http://www.world-earthquakes.com


anywway here is a thread about that:

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-BREAKING...scientists

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