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Solar Watch: 12 X Flares and 139 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
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Post: #1036
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 73 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
LoP Guest  Wrote:
It seems that the ionosphere is what absorbs the bulk of these proton storms.

also much of the protons shoot right through Earth, not absorbed, and the global d absorption chart of the Isphere shows where they entered our atmosphere.

LoP Guest  Wrote:
What I am mowing around is the connection between perturbations in the ionosphere by solar activity and extreme weather and any possible correlation.
That is the whole Haarp theory correct? Weather control by way of the ionosphere?

that's a big part of it. i am no expert on haarp but i see the mechanics of how it could and probably does control weather. i see the potential that these low frequency high energy waves could also cause instability in the crust..

LoP Guest  Wrote:
So what about the sun itself and how it affects the ionosphere, and in turn weather? Seems the sun is the big boy, not some antennae in Alaska. This is not to be understood that I debunk Haarp. That is not the point.

The reason I was asking about that chart earlier is this. Is that where the proton surge was focused during the event last night? The area in read showed very high absorption correct? Does this cause the Ionosphere to heat up? Seems to me it would.

The reason I am asking is because I want to follow that weather as it works its way around the globe. Or something of that nature, I'm not sure how to say it.

...

So I wonder about these proton storms and xrays as they relate to weather by way of the ionosphere.

well it's nice to see your work, and imo it is valid. i love shanghai btw, haven't been there for about 10 years but it still feels like a home away from home..

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Post: #1037
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 73 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
LoP Guest  Wrote:
If you want me to discontinue this type of discussion in your thread just let me know. Imma big boy I can take it. Cuz I don't want to dump a bunch of information of this nature on this thread without your approval.

actually, it's exactly what this thread is for. even more so because i consider eqs part of weather.. if you haven't dabbled with dutchsinse on yt, you may want to. he makes some impressive haarp vids of extreme weather following haarp activity (radar anomolies)..

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Post: #1038
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 73 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
m flare and rising, again..

peaked out between 1 and 2 this time..

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Post: #1039
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 73 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
OpenEnded  Wrote:
m flare and rising, again..

How fast does the sun rotate? The last one was a glancing blow.

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Post: #1040
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 74 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
Mother Mary  Wrote:
OpenEnded  Wrote:
m flare and rising, again..

How fast does the sun rotate? The last one was a glancing blow.

around 24 days for a full rotation at the equator..

if cmes come from 1429 they will be coming more toward us for the next week or so.. when the region is directly in the center of the disk, it is pointed directly at us. this spot like most is above the ecliptic plane and wont be pointed directly at us, but it will be pointed close enough to shoot something our way..

the xray blasts get picked up by a satellite between earth and the sun, showing up within minutes..

there is another area at 60 degrees roughly from the meridian facing earth on the west side where the flares and cmes can have stronger and much faster effects. following the magnetic connection line between the 2 bodies..

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Post: #1041
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 74 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
nasa/noaa today..

IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 04/2100Z
to 05/2100Z: Solar activity has been high. An X1/2b flare occurred
at 05/0409Z from Region 1429 (N17E41). This flare was associated
with a full halo CME with a LASCO C3 plane of sky speed of about
1340 km/sec. Region 1429 has a beta-delta magnetic class with an
area of approximately 810 millionths, and appears to be growing.
The region produced additional M-class flares during the period. New
Region 1431 (S27W36) was numbered today and is a small B-type
sunspot group.

IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be unsettled to active for day 1 (06 Mar) due to
combined effects from the M4/CME event observed on 04 March and a
favorably positioned coronal hole high speed stream. Active
conditions with a chance for minor storm periods are forecast for
the second day (07 Mar) due to a expected glancing blow from todays
X1/full halo CME.
Predominantly unsettled levels are expected for
the third day (08 Mar).

III. Event Probabilities 06 Mar-08 Mar
Class M 75/75/75
Class X 30/30/30


30% is very high for x flare probability from nasa..

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Post: #1042
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 74 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
this is starting to seem like the week before the japan quake...
very similar....
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Post: #1043
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 74 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
another small m just passed..

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Post: #1044
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 76 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
the Eastern hemisphere is flashy today, these sunspots may be able to set off each other..

[Image: 0642_4F556C28.jpg]

and another baby m just now..

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Post: #1045
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 75 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
a sign that we hit the peak of sc24..

this is straight from the mother thread at top, ninzrez said it first..


"
a lot of talk in here today about sunspot 1429
but i have not seen anyone mention that this large northern sunspot region have the same polarity characteristics as a southern located sunspot

for anyone who may not know
the polaritys reverse when the sun goes through a solar reversal, also known as the solar maximum
at that time, the leading polaritys of the sunspot regions switch places

we can see in this magnetogram image taken in 2002
[link to soi.stanford.edu]
that sunspots in the northern region are of a positive/negative structure
with the leading area (on the right) being positive (white), and on the left being the negative
(white on the right, black on the left)
in the southern sunspots, its the opposite
(black on right, white on the left)

when the sun went through a polar reversal in around 2003, that it does each 10-12 years, these polaritys reverse
this is why, we now see sunspots in the northern region with black on the right, white on the left
and the sunspots in the southern region white on the right, and black on the left
as we see here in a magnetogram image from SDO for March 7th 2011
the day this thread was made
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

now compair that magnetogram image to the latest magnetogram image for today
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

notice anything odd?
how about how... this huge sunspot 1429 has the same polarity (positive/negative - white on right, black on left) and the ones in the southern region do
1429 is the opposite of all other northern region sunspots

"
sorry the links don't work but the black and white patterns are pretty easy to see..

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Post: #1046
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 75 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
1429 showing reverse polarity for the N hemisphere..

[Image: BB86_4F558CEE.jpg]

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Post: #1047
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 75 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
Another M - M1.0
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Post: #1048
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 75 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
Indigenous Intelligence  Wrote:
Another M - M1.0

looks like it broke the line, that counts..

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Post: #1049
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 76 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
these are the "popcorn" flares of 1429, by solarham.com..

[Image: D455_4F558FCC.jpg]

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Post: #1050
RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 76 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11
OpenEnded  Wrote:
a sign that we hit the peak of sc24..

this is straight from the mother thread at top, ninzrez said it first..


"
a lot of talk in here today about sunspot 1429
but i have not seen anyone mention that this large northern sunspot region have the same polarity characteristics as a southern located sunspot

for anyone who may not know
the polaritys reverse when the sun goes through a solar reversal, also known as the solar maximum
at that time, the leading polaritys of the sunspot regions switch places

we can see in this magnetogram image taken in 2002
[link to soi.stanford.edu]
that sunspots in the northern region are of a positive/negative structure
with the leading area (on the right) being positive (white), and on the left being the negative
(white on the right, black on the left)
in the southern sunspots, its the opposite
(black on right, white on the left)

when the sun went through a polar reversal in around 2003, that it does each 10-12 years, these polaritys reverse
this is why, we now see sunspots in the northern region with black on the right, white on the left
and the sunspots in the southern region white on the right, and black on the left
as we see here in a magnetogram image from SDO for March 7th 2011
the day this thread was made
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

now compair that magnetogram image to the latest magnetogram image for today
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

notice anything odd?
how about how... this huge sunspot 1429 has the same polarity (positive/negative - white on right, black on left) and the ones in the southern region do
1429 is the opposite of all other northern region sunspots

"
sorry the links don't work but the black and white patterns are pretty easy to see..

I was under the impression that the solar maximum is an 11 year cycle (give or take), but the greater cycle was a 22 year cycle. That the sun reverses polarity every 22 years not every solar maximum, but every other one.

Am I mistaken?
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