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**OpenEnded** · **RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 71 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11**

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**Rager** lop guest User ID: 81645 03-05-2012 08:36 AM

vid already posted Srjceahd

**OpenEnded** · **RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 71 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11**

1429 saying goodnight..

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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 03-05-2012 08:53 AM

OpenEnded Wrote:

Rager Wrote:
looks like it's going to be a busy week.

looks like australia, watch for shakin..

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...5441DD.jpg

OpenEnded. I hate to bother you with it, but what exactly does this image mean?

Is that proton absorption at the time of the event?

Anything you could tell me about that charts meaning I would be grateful.

**OpenEnded** · **RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 71 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11**

LoP Guest Wrote:

OpenEnded Wrote:
Rager Wrote:
looks like it's going to be a busy week.

looks like australia, watch for shakin..

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...5441DD.jpg

OpenEnded. I hate to bother you with it, but what exactly does this image mean?

Is that proton absorption at the time of the event?

Anything you could tell me about that charts meaning I would be grateful.

no probs. that's a representation of ionospheric disturbance. that layer of the atmosphere that seems to react to xray events and protons most strongly. i have read theories that the ionspheric disturbance has the highest correlation to eq activity, so i watch it and i have seen some connections, but the magnetosphere and the effects from the cmes seem a more plausible reason for the solar activity-eq connections, imo..

then there are those that say there is no connection, and they are welcome here too. the debate goes on..

**OpenEnded** · **RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 71 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11**

something to think about.. we haven't seen a 4 in SF for a while:/

MAP 4.0 2012/03/05 13:33:20 37.929 -122.303 9.2 SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA, CALIFORNIA

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/r...es_all.php

here is the ring of fire, all eqs over 4.0 in the last 36 hours..

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**OpenEnded** · **RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 71 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11**

enlil model showing the last cme missing us..

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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 03-05-2012 07:41 PM

OpenEnded Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
OpenEnded Wrote:
looks like australia, watch for shakin..

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...5441DD.jpg

OpenEnded. I hate to bother you with it, but what exactly does this image mean?

Is that proton absorption at the time of the event?

Anything you could tell me about that charts meaning I would be grateful.

no probs. that's a representation of ionospheric disturbance. that layer of the atmosphere that seems to react to xray events and protons most strongly. i have read theories that the ionspheric disturbance has the highest correlation to eq activity, so i watch it and i have seen some connections, but the magnetosphere and the effects from the cmes seem a more plausible reason for the solar activity-eq connections, imo..

then there are those that say there is no connection, and they are welcome here too. the debate goes on..

Well as long as it is good healthy debate and not just senseless insults being thrown around flippantly.

**OpenEnded** · (This post was last modified: 03-05-2012 08:52 PM by OpenEnded.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

Well as long as it is good healthy debate and not just senseless insults being thrown around flippantly.

totally agreed.. cooter brown added a lot of good support for the opposing side of the debate, and it was appreciated.. i don't agree with the idea that past data from solar activity not correlating to eqs is evidence that there is no connection. here are a few reasons why:

there has been an effort to silence this research, by Al Gore and others, which could lead to tampering or misreading of the data..

the solar system is now crossing the galactic plane, and entering into a fluffy cloud, conditions which were not present in the past and could have effects on the electromagnetic spectrum..

anyone who has seen the shots of the plasma clouds coming off the sun would have to assume that, if a big enough one comes directly toward us, it could affect our stability, at least imo..

the reasons i think there is a connection are based on much research of all the above subjects and just gut feeling.. but i completely understand someone not seeing what i do, or think i do:)

**OpenEnded** · (This post was last modified: 03-05-2012 09:19 PM by OpenEnded.)

x ray flux going vertical..

http://solarham.com/xray.htm

peaking around m2.0 for now..

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 03-05-2012 09:20 PM

OpenEnded Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Well as long as it is good healthy debate and not just senseless insults being thrown around flippantly.

totally agreed.. cooter brown added a lot of good support for the opposing side of the debate, and it was appreciated.. i don't agree with the idea that past data from solar activity not correlating to eqs is evidence that there is no connection. here are a few reasons why:

there has been an effort to silence this research, by Al Gore and others, which could lead to tampering or misreading of the data..

the solar system is now crossing the galactic plane, and entering into a fluffy cloud, conditions which were not present in the past and could have effects on the electromagnetic spectrum..

anyone who has seen the shots of the plasma clouds coming off the sun would have to assume that, if a big enough one comes directly toward us, it could affect our stability, at least imo..

the reasons i think there is a connection are based on much research of all the above subjects and just gut feeling.. but i completely understand someone not seeing what i do, or think i do:)

Well it is a good idea to have opposing views to get to the bottom of something, if of course getting to the bottom of a matter is the initiative.

**OpenEnded** · **RE: Solar Watch: 8 X Flares and 72 M Flares so far, starting 7/27/11**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Well it is a good idea to have opposing views to get to the bottom of something, if of course getting to the bottom of a matter is the initiative.

well said mk..

**OpenEnded** · (This post was last modified: 03-05-2012 09:40 PM by OpenEnded.)

xrays into the ms again, double bump..

sh..

1429 Seething with M-Flares
Massive Sunspot 1429 is seething with activity and just produced a short duration M2.1 Solar Flare at 19:16 UTC, followed by an M1.8 at 19:30 UTC. These are in addition to smaller flares today, C5.4, C7.8 and C9.8.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 03-05-2012 09:44 PM

My questions are not eq or volcanic related as to why I was asking about that chart.

It seems that the ionosphere is what absorbs the bulk of these proton storms.

What I am mowing around is the connection between perturbations in the ionosphere by solar activity and extreme weather and any possible correlation.

That is the whole Haarp theory correct? Weather control by way of the ionosphere?

So what about the sun itself and how it affects the ionosphere, and in turn weather? Seems the sun is the big boy, not some antennae in Alaska. This is not to be understood that I debunk Haarp. That is not the point.

The reason I was asking about that chart earlier is this. Is that where the proton surge was focused during the event last night? The area in read showed very high absorption correct? Does this cause the Ionosphere to heat up? Seems to me it would.

The reason I am asking is because I want to follow that weather as it works its way around the globe. Or something of that nature, I'm not sure how to say it.

FOR some ten years, at the Zi Ka Wei Observatory, in Shanghai, China, we have been using, with exceptional success, a new technique in our weather forecasting. This method is based on an as yet unexplained correlation between the usual ionosphere echoes (E, F and F 2) and the future movement or behaviour of the three main air masses, which make the weather all over the world: polar, maritime and tropical, or equatorial, as some people call it. Our results have already been published in the Bulletin of the Meteorological Society of America, in 1946, and in a paper sent to the last Pacific Science Congress held in New Zealand last February.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v16...038a0.html

You see this here?

Schematic diagram of the electric-current pattern in the ionosphere driven by diurnal heating from the Sun. Note that the current is concentrated on the day side, consisting of two oppositely oriented circuits

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Diurna...urrent.jpg

It seems extremely related to low and high pressure systems being shown in an isobar format. For all intent purposes it looks like the same exact thing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesiz...rev2.shtml

So I wonder about these proton storms and xrays as they relate to weather by way of the ionosphere.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 79813 03-05-2012 09:59 PM

If you want me to discontinue this type of discussion in your thread just let me know. Imma big boy I can take it. Cuz I don't want to dump a bunch of information of this nature on this thread without your approval.