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**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-16-2012 02:15 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
What people believe is true for them.
What the majority of people believe becomes the accepted truth. Why is the grass green? Because you were told it was and the majority of people believe it.
Doesn't mean it is true, but it is what people agree is true.
Such is the same for all words and concepts we have labeled. Doesn't mean any of them are actually true.
Most people lack the capacity to understand the actual truth.
What you think is the truth is what you have become convinced to believe and anyone who lacks the capacity to change their mind is forever a prisoner of lies.

I'm glad you brought up the color of grass, think about the following:
If there was "chemical g" which registers as one color in the minds of people, and everyone could point out what had "chemical g" in it, and they called it "green", that doesn't mean all those people are actually seeing the same color as you, if you put yourself into their bodies, green might be what you thought of as purple, like they see green as purple.

Think about it again:
You don't even know what anyone is really seeing or experiencing for certain. You don't know if what they call green is what you would call purple if you saw it through their eyes even if they are recognizing the chemical in the same way. Nobody can transfer to another person what the color green is, they can only keep naming the thing that has a certain chemical as being green, but you don't know if what you see is the same as what they see even if you all agree that chemical (appearing differently to your eyes) is called "green".

Do you understand that? See if you can repeat it back to me so I can make sure you understood what I'm saying because it might sound a little complicated but it isn't really.

Thank you for totally agreeing with my quote about your opinion and what people perceive as the truth!

**FreedomStands**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
Collective reality [what we are living in] is ruled by the majority opinion. The prevailing opinion does not conform with yours. This indicates you are out of touch with reality.

Take a look at your little planet, my God:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q

The only opinion that creates true action is that of God.

Which is only backed by your opinion. But if you believe it then it is your truth.

Your concept is out of context.

What are you talking about? The reason I showed that is so you understand the collective opinion of people has nothing to do with gigantic stars they don't even know about, nor does it have to do with the condition of Earth before humanity, or anything else going on the Universe. The astounding arrogance of a person who thinks they control the whole Universe and all reality when they can't even stay awake and rely on food constantly and go to the bathroom is pretty silly, no?

**FreedomStands**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

Thank you for totally agreeing with my quote about your opinion and what people perceive as the truth!

Yeah, but do you understand what I wrote? You think they are just "believing it is green" but that isn't the case at all, they are just calling something green, and could be seeing it in a way that if you had seen it knowing what you know you would call it purple. People can't inform people of the actual color they see, and I don't think the information we interact with is created by us, but is instead received by us, it already existed before we existed.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 47505 02-16-2012 02:20 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

Dinsdale Piranha Wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzlbyTZs...embedded#!

Listen to this very carefully. Pay particular attention starting at 52 seconds.

Don't you want to have a body?
Au revoir!

No, thats not it.

Quote:Not everything could also be something. For example, not everything could be half of something, which is still something, and therefore not nothing

Oopsy.

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-16-2012 02:21 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
FreedomStands Wrote:
Take a look at your little planet, my God:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q

The only opinion that creates true action is that of God.

Which is only backed by your opinion. But if you believe it then it is your truth.

Your concept is out of context.

What are you talking about? The reason I showed that is so you understand the collective opinion of people has nothing to do with gigantic stars they don't even know about, nor does it have to do with the condition of Earth before humanity, or anything else going on the Universe. The astounding arrogance of a person who thinks they control the whole Universe and all reality when they can't even stay awake and rely on food constantly and go to the bathroom is pretty silly, no?

Just because you respond with a counter argument [one which avoids the actual point] does not mean your are correct.
One persons opinion does not counter another persons opinion unless they consent to it.
In my opinion you are incorrect. You can disagree, I can't stop you but that will not change my opinion unless I want to, just as you do yourself.

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

"Not everything could also be something. For example, not everything could be half of something, which is still something, and therefore not nothing"
Oopsy.

"not nothing" reminded me of me.

Yeah, not everything could still be something less than everything, but still something.

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-16-2012 02:22 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
Thank you for totally agreeing with my quote about your opinion and what people perceive as the truth!

Yeah, but do you understand what I wrote? You think they are just "believing it is green" but that isn't the case at all, they are just calling something green, and could be seeing it in a way that if you had seen it knowing what you know you would call it purple. People can't inform people of the actual color they see, and I don't think the information we interact with is created by us, but is instead received by us, it already existed before we existed.

Doesn't change that what is believed to be correct is merely the opinion of the majority, but you agreed with me on that point.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 47505 02-16-2012 02:28 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
"Not everything could also be something. For example, not everything could be half of something, which is still something, and therefore not nothing"
Oopsy.

"not nothing" reminded me of me.

Yeah, not everything could still be something less than everything, but still something.

Think your program will win this year? chuckle

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-16-2012 02:29 AM

The most High God is allowing. All else is hierarchy.

That's it in a nutshell. :)

**FreedomStands**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
Which is only backed by your opinion. But if you believe it then it is your truth.

Your concept is out of context.

What are you talking about? The reason I showed that is so you understand the collective opinion of people has nothing to do with gigantic stars they don't even know about, nor does it have to do with the condition of Earth before humanity, or anything else going on the Universe. The astounding arrogance of a person who thinks they control the whole Universe and all reality when they can't even stay awake and rely on food constantly and go to the bathroom is pretty silly, no?

Just because you respond with a counter argument [one which avoids the actual point] does not mean your are correct.
One persons opinion does not counter another persons opinion unless they consent to it.
In my opinion you are incorrect. You can disagree, I can't stop you but that will not change my opinion unless I want to, just as you do yourself.

Tell me what you disagree with and how you can stay awake without falling asleep or dozing off, or totally not eat, or totally not go to the bathroom? In a normal discussion, people can offer points to try to ask the other people to show more about their ideas. You can counter my counter arguments and this leads to more dialogue, go for it if you so desire.

So far you're trying to perhaps cut this off at "you have an opinion, I have an opinion, and we both have "our" truths which are different" which is an annoying cop out that lots of silly new agey types often do when they don't want to have their ideas face the hard light that might show blemishes.

I'm ok with you questioning my ideas and giving reasoning, but my "counter arguments" were to give you questions to answer, because I was asking basically how it is true to be Gods or have this amazing ultimate power when we clearly depend on things, nor did we create ourselves to our knowledge, nor did we create what existed before us, and so on. So instead of jumping to conclusions like "we're creating reality together" give it a shot and try to explain in detail what exactly you mean and why you think it is true. I asked for some demonstrations of your power, such as staying awake without sleeping, never eating food, and never going to the bathroom. If you truly have any power, those pertain only to your own activities, and you should certainly be able to control such things. I don't reccomend you hurt yourself though, nor should it require any effort to stay awake eternally, because effort is something that shows some kind of opposing strain, why should it be difficult? Then you'll truly be free of sleep, food, and poo poo/pee pee!

You'll do the world a great service even! Since there will be more food for those pathetic fools who have to eat, and also less waste, and to top it off you'll give the world hope that this amazing ability of self control is true.

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Think your program will win this year?

My program is truly the best ever!

**FreedomStands**

Actually mine isn't the best, I just realized, because so many people have thought I'm a bot. To win that competition you have to be able to convince people you're not a bot. I don't seem real enough to people I think.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 47505 02-16-2012 02:33 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
"Not everything could also be something. For example, not everything could be half of something, which is still something, and therefore not nothing"
Oopsy.

"not nothing" reminded me of me.

Yeah, not everything could still be something less than everything, but still something.

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**FreedomStands** · (This post was last modified: 02-16-2012 02:36 AM by FreedomStands.)

The Lucky AC Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
Thank you for totally agreeing with my quote about your opinion and what people perceive as the truth!

Yeah, but do you understand what I wrote? You think they are just "believing it is green" but that isn't the case at all, they are just calling something green, and could be seeing it in a way that if you had seen it knowing what you know you would call it purple. People can't inform people of the actual color they see, and I don't think the information we interact with is created by us, but is instead received by us, it already existed before we existed.

Doesn't change that what is believed to be correct is merely the opinion of the majority, but you agreed with me on that point.

I actually didn't totally agree with that. I said if everyone calls something green, doesn't mean they are seeing the same green or visual information even if they are all calling chemical g by one word. The colors "blue" "green" whatever relate to the chemicals really, and nobody knows how anyone else is seeing them.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 47505 02-16-2012 02:34 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

Actually mine isn't the best, I just realized, because so many people have thought I'm a bot. To win that competition you have to be able to convince people you're not a bot. I don't seem real enough to people I think.

Empathy.