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Starchild Skull DNA results...
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Post: #16
RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
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Most con artists will tell you they aren't in it for the money.

I will excuse your ignorance on the matter and let you continue to think Mr. Pye is a con man. Just remember you thought that when he reveals his historic findings to the world.

The same historic findings he has been releasing for say.. I don't know... seven or more years now?

I once followed his stuff as well as it was interesting long ago, but after constant calls for money money money money over the years and half assed reports every few years, some of us just see it for what it is.

13 years he has had this skull. Constant calls for money? Of course! He's basically an average Joe with ZERO funding from any major anybody! He's having tests done that cost MONEY. He is in need of MONEY to pay the geneticists to perform said tests. Like the latest 2012 test. It wasn't free, and he isn't a wealthy individual with endless funds to support his research.

Lloyd is sincere and honest. He wants to find out whether this skull is human or not. EITHER WAY. But the fact is every small test he is able to get done on it comes up with a result that cannot be ignored, and thus he keeps pushing on. He knows what the end result will be groundbreaking.

Con man? You people have NO IDEA what you're talking about.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:31 AM)
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:24 AM)
The same historic findings he has been releasing for say.. I don't know... seven or more years now?

I once followed his stuff as well as it was interesting long ago, but after constant calls for money money money money over the years and half assed reports every few years, some of us just see it for what it is.

He does tell an interesting and compelling story even if it is bullshit.

Yes, he has honed his con after many years.

Personally I would love for this to be the end all be all, no questions asked proof.

But it will not be.

What are you basing your "it will not be" assumption on? What are the facts that led you to that comment?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:41 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:31 AM)
Gibbie  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:30 AM)
He does tell an interesting and compelling story even if it is bullshit.

Yes, he has honed his con after many years.

Personally I would love for this to be the end all be all, no questions asked proof.

But it will not be.

What are you basing your "it will not be" assumption on? What are the facts that led you to that comment?

I base this conclusion on previous cases.

Prove me wrong, I will admit I was wrong.

Until then, I am willing to bet a ceramic head will hold little human DNA just as well.

Depending on how long this skull has been in the elements, you may not be able to extract much dna from it.

Repeat the same test 10-20 times with the same results, then we will talk.
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RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:44 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:41 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:31 AM)
Yes, he has honed his con after many years.

Personally I would love for this to be the end all be all, no questions asked proof.

But it will not be.

What are you basing your "it will not be" assumption on? What are the facts that led you to that comment?

I base this conclusion on previous cases.

Prove me wrong, I will admit I was wrong.

Until then, I am willing to bet a ceramic head will hold little human DNA just as well.

Depending on how long this skull has been in the elements, you may not be able to extract much dna from it.

Repeat the same test 10-20 times with the same results, then we will talk.

What previous cases? Mr. Pye is well aware of the elements affecting the skull, however it was found in a cave and was rather well protected from the elements for a long time. That's also why the testing costs so much is because it's so old.

Also, the whole point IS to repeat the test many times to confirm the results. This is what he wants! CONFIRMATION! What aren't you understanding?
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Post: #21
RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:50 AM)
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What are you basing your "it will not be" assumption on? What are the facts that led you to that comment?

I base this conclusion on previous cases.

Prove me wrong, I will admit I was wrong.

Until then, I am willing to bet a ceramic head will hold little human DNA just as well.

Depending on how long this skull has been in the elements, you may not be able to extract much dna from it.

Repeat the same test 10-20 times with the same results, then we will talk.

What previous cases? Mr. Pye is well aware of the elements affecting the skull, however it was found in a cave and was rather well protected from the elements for a long time. That's also why the testing costs so much is because it's so old.

Also, the whole point IS to repeat the test many times to confirm the results. This is what he wants! CONFIRMATION! What aren't you understanding?

I am sure I will find you on another forum in 2015 or so when he is asking for more money for another test.

Cheer
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RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:54 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:50 AM)
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I base this conclusion on previous cases.

Prove me wrong, I will admit I was wrong.

Until then, I am willing to bet a ceramic head will hold little human DNA just as well.

Depending on how long this skull has been in the elements, you may not be able to extract much dna from it.

Repeat the same test 10-20 times with the same results, then we will talk.

What previous cases? Mr. Pye is well aware of the elements affecting the skull, however it was found in a cave and was rather well protected from the elements for a long time. That's also why the testing costs so much is because it's so old.

Also, the whole point IS to repeat the test many times to confirm the results. This is what he wants! CONFIRMATION! What aren't you understanding?

I am sure I will find you on another forum in 2015 or so when he is asking for more money for another test.

Cheer

You can think whatever you'd like.

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RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:44 AM)
Repeat the same test 10-20 times with the same results, then we will talk.

Will you pay for these 20 tests?

Somebody apparently can pay $7 million to the Max Planck institute for each boring human neandertal bone to be DNA-sequenced, why doesn't the same "somebody" pay another $7 million to have some much more interesting bone tested? Who is this "somebody" who can afford to test every ordinary other boring old human bone for insane amounts of money but is constantly refusing to test this one? Why can't the scientific community treat this very interesting skull the same way they treat every other new find?
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Repeat the same test 10-20 times with the same results, then we will talk.

Will you pay for these 20 tests?

Somebody apparently can pay $7 million to the Max Planck institute for each boring human neandertal bone to be DNA-sequenced, why doesn't the same "somebody" pay another $7 million to have some much more interesting bone tested? Who is this "somebody" who can afford to test every ordinary other boring old human bone for insane amounts of money but is constantly refusing to test this one? Why can't the scientific community treat this very interesting skull the same way they treat every other new find?

Nobody takes him seriously for whatever reason. He's tried to get the attention of mainstream scientists, and they've all given him the cold shoulder. No scientist will risk their name or reputation when it comes to something as "taboo" as alien has become in today's world.
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Post: #25
RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
Starchild debunked. I hope you Lloyd Pye supporters will at least read the following links. But I seriously doubt that any of you will, because you all want so badly to believe that the skull is some kind of hybrid human/alien, when it's clearly just a boring old human skull.

Also, one other thing about Pye: He doesn't have a strong enough intellect to understand the science behind DNA, human genetics, or human anthropology -- he misinterprets so many things all the time.

http://survive2012.com/news/2007/01/star...ls-28.html

http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/03/19/so...-feedback/

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4144

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154989
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 03:55 AM)
Starchild debunked. I hope you Lloyd Pye supporters will at least read the following links. But I seriously doubt that any of you will, because you all want so badly to believe that the skull is some kind of hybrid human/alien, when it's clearly just a boring old human skull.

Also, one other thing about Pye: He doesn't have a strong enough intellect to understand the science behind DNA, human genetics, or human anthropology -- he misinterprets so many things all the time.

http://survive2012.com/news/2007/01/star...ls-28.html

http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/03/19/so...-feedback/

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4144

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154989

Starchild debunked? Where? Rofl

What is your understanding of DNA, human genetics, or human anthropology? Please enlighten us and explain how the Starchild is debunked because a few posts on the internet say it is. Where is your counter proof? Skeptic blogs don't count. Back it with science, like Lloyd has.

There are two types of people in this world. Those who can accept, and those who cannot.
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RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 03:55 AM)
Starchild debunked. I hope you Lloyd Pye supporters will at least read the following links. But I seriously doubt that any of you will, because you all want so badly to believe that the skull is some kind of hybrid human/alien, when it's clearly just a boring old human skull.

Also, one other thing about Pye: He doesn't have a strong enough intellect to understand the science behind DNA, human genetics, or human anthropology -- he misinterprets so many things all the time.

http://survive2012.com/news/2007/01/star...ls-28.html

http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/03/19/so...-feedback/

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4144

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154989

Upon further reading, all of these posts/blogs contain INCORRECT information. The conclusions made are irrelevant.

Plus, an article from 2007 is VOID. Show me something recent. More tests have been conducted, more results shown. I think I've made my point.
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RE: Starchild Skull DNA results...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 04:06 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 03:55 AM)
Starchild debunked. I hope you Lloyd Pye supporters will at least read the following links. But I seriously doubt that any of you will, because you all want so badly to believe that the skull is some kind of hybrid human/alien, when it's clearly just a boring old human skull.

Also, one other thing about Pye: He doesn't have a strong enough intellect to understand the science behind DNA, human genetics, or human anthropology -- he misinterprets so many things all the time.

http://survive2012.com/news/2007/01/star...ls-28.html

http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/03/19/so...-feedback/

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4144

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154989

Upon further reading, all of these posts/blogs contain INCORRECT information. The conclusions made are irrelevant.

Plus, an article from 2007 is VOID. Show me something recent. More tests have been conducted, more results shown. I think I've made my point.
Yes because he was proven wrong before, and adapted his con to the previous conclusions, he is now in possession of the same fake/now real because he said so skull.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 04:09 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 04:06 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 03:55 AM)
Starchild debunked. I hope you Lloyd Pye supporters will at least read the following links. But I seriously doubt that any of you will, because you all want so badly to believe that the skull is some kind of hybrid human/alien, when it's clearly just a boring old human skull.

Also, one other thing about Pye: He doesn't have a strong enough intellect to understand the science behind DNA, human genetics, or human anthropology -- he misinterprets so many things all the time.

http://survive2012.com/news/2007/01/star...ls-28.html

http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/03/19/so...-feedback/

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4144

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154989

Upon further reading, all of these posts/blogs contain INCORRECT information. The conclusions made are irrelevant.

Plus, an article from 2007 is VOID. Show me something recent. More tests have been conducted, more results shown. I think I've made my point.
Yes because he was proven wrong before, and adapted his con to the previous conclusions, he is now in possession of the same fake/now real because he said so skull.

Link me to when he was "proven wrong" or else...


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