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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 59746 04-23-2012 10:40 PM

Incidentally, there is something about Knowing that has riveted me from the very first time I saw it. I've seen a buttload of doomesque movies over my 45 years, from the truly mundane to the very interesting. Knowing certainly wasn't slated to ever win an Oscar. But I have to tell you, of all these doomers I've seen, something about Knowing really shakes me to the core. It's very hard to explain and the only way I can think of to explain it to you is that it feels "familiar" almost like a feeling of precog or dejavu. Ok, here's another way of describing it. Let's say someone or something put a thought into your mind of a coming event that you have no knowledge or recognition of. Then you watch a movie or hear a song or see a picture or whatever other trigger event causes you to awaken this coded event and it feels to you like something very real on the horizon. When I was a kid, I had my first EOTW dream (of which I've had way too many to bother to post here). But in this dream I am a grownup and am with another person. We both have backpacks on. There is a dog with us and one of us has a baby strapped to the front of us, like in a carrier of some kind. We are walking in a wilderness looking area and there is no one else around. We are either looking for other "survivors" (this was the word I thought of in my dream) or are on the run from bad people who are trying to round up survivors. I then wake up. That dreams has haunted me since I was a kid. The other subsequent dream has had similar undertones, but different scenarios. All of them, however, have had TEOTW as their main theme. My uncle (the one mentioned above), before he drank himself to death invited me to become a member of his organization. I decined. It goes much deeper than that, but in one of his more sobered moments, he told me he knew I had visions of things and abilities that I hadn't discovered yet. Again, very secretive sounding and never wanted to elaborate. I know he was able to astral project, so maybe he had to ability to surf other people's dreams too, or something like that.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91651 04-23-2012 10:53 PM

I haven't bothered to read all 10 pages, because you know from the original OP post it is bullshit. Most likely made to encourage sales of this upcoming book.

Anyone who remembers a conversation like that word for word is pulling your leg. Makes a good story though Rofl

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92129 04-23-2012 10:54 PM

jeez is this still going

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 59746 04-23-2012 10:58 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

I haven't bothered to read all 10 pages, because you know from the original OP post it is bullshit. Most likely made to encourage sales of this upcoming book.

Anyone who remembers a conversation like that word for word is pulling your leg. Makes a good story though

Bullshit or not, what's sad is, if and when TSeverHTF, no one is going to believe it's going down, because of so many fake stories. Sort of like the boy who cries wolf. I believe more and more that 12/21/12 is not going to be THE date, but I, and many others like me, who I have met over the years all feel like something is seriously brewing. It's kind of hard to turn a blind eye to all the DOD and gov underground vaults, seed chambers, etc. being built all around the world, the increase in FEMA structures/camps being erected, the huge increase in trying to go after the banning of guns, runs on ammo, etc., shortages of emergency food that is often seen on sites like Mountain House, and a buttload of other signs, and then try and deny that something is going on. TPTB of this world clearly are preparing for something epic. These people don't spend billions of dollars simply for the fun of it.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92169 04-23-2012 11:24 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

These people don't spend billions of dollars simply for the fun of it.

:lmao:Sure they do.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 59746 04-24-2012 02:13 AM

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92188 04-24-2012 02:27 AM

Op does his name start with K? Just asking because it sounds like someone I knew.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 59746 04-24-2012 04:15 AM

Hmmm, wonder where he went.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92188 04-24-2012 03:56 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
I haven't bothered to read all 10 pages, because you know from the original OP post it is bullshit. Most likely made to encourage sales of this upcoming book.

Anyone who remembers a conversation like that word for word is pulling your leg. Makes a good story though

Bullshit or not, what's sad is, if and when TSeverHTF, no one is going to believe it's going down, because of so many fake stories. Sort of like the boy who cries wolf. I believe more and more that 12/21/12 is not going to be THE date, but I, and many others like me, who I have met over the years all feel like something is seriously brewing. It's kind of hard to turn a blind eye to all the DOD and gov underground vaults, seed chambers, etc. being built all around the world, the increase in FEMA structures/camps being erected, the huge increase in trying to go after the banning of guns, runs on ammo, etc., shortages of emergency food that is often seen on sites like Mountain House, and a buttload of other signs, and then try and deny that something is going on. TPTB of this world clearly are preparing for something epic. These people don't spend billions of dollars simply for the fun of it.

I agree 100%. The problem with bugging out is knowing when TShasHF.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92188 04-24-2012 03:59 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Hmmm, wonder where he went.

Lol, nothing happened, just moved and haven't kept in touch. Was an aquaintance.

**BeelzeBob**

REDEYE Wrote:

BeelzeBob Wrote:
Troubling Facts to this conversation:

1 - OP is a writer and misspells Gnostic
2 - OP joined in March of 2012...but claims to have been here awhile (2009?). This could be true but seems like they would have joined a long time ago. How do we know OP is credible.
3 - Who gives away 80% of something this big but doesn't deliver the goods. This kind of info would be all or none. Why drag it out, it's more risk to spread it over several conversations than to just dump it out once.
4 - It's written kind of dramatically...agree with Sireen that this is a part of the book for which OP is testing the quality of writing. I do have to say "nice job"
Slow work day so I'll address some issues. My book is not about Gnostic so spelling wasn't important to me. I mentioned the book because he confirmed things I had found while researching for my book. (like LOP!) He is ALWAYS talking in riddles and metaphors. I recently had a text message conversation and asked directly but he answered with quotes from Philosophers and in FRENCH, GERMAN, SPANISH AND LATIN! I'm tired of his games and told him so.
I don't remember the claim of being here that long but could be I meant I've been doing book research since 2009? I'll go back and check but I've been "lurking" here awhile before becoming a member.

I'm still 50/50 on this conversation but it is far more believable than other "my uncle" threads I've read. I agree with some other comments that so many fake stories have been posted over the last couple of years that you look for a fake every time you see a story of this type.

If real, you need to take this guy out for drink and about 4 drinks into it start working him for info. If fake, come clean and take credit for a well played story.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92188 04-24-2012 04:29 PM

REDEYE Wrote:

BeelzeBob Wrote:
Troubling Facts to this conversation:

1 - OP is a writer and misspells Gnostic
2 - OP joined in March of 2012...but claims to have been here awhile (2009?). This could be true but seems like they would have joined a long time ago. How do we know OP is credible.
3 - Who gives away 80% of something this big but doesn't deliver the goods. This kind of info would be all or none. Why drag it out, it's more risk to spread it over several conversations than to just dump it out once.
4 - It's written kind of dramatically...agree with Sireen that this is a part of the book for which OP is testing the quality of writing. I do have to say "nice job"
Slow work day so I'll address some issues. My book is not about Gnostic so spelling wasn't important to me. I mentioned the book because he confirmed things I had found while researching for my book. (like LOP!) He is ALWAYS talking in riddles and metaphors. I recently had a text message conversation and asked directly but he answered with quotes from Philosophers and in FRENCH, GERMAN, SPANISH AND LATIN! I'm tired of his games and told him so.
I don't remember the claim of being here that long but could be I meant I've been doing book research since 2009? I'll go back and check but I've been "lurking" here awhile before becoming a member.

I swear we have to be talking about the same person, unless you made him up, in which case you are good at dreaming up realistic characters bc this guy exists.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92188 04-24-2012 04:31 PM

BeelzeBob Wrote:

REDEYE Wrote:
BeelzeBob Wrote:
Troubling Facts to this conversation:

1 - OP is a writer and misspells Gnostic
2 - OP joined in March of 2012...but claims to have been here awhile (2009?). This could be true but seems like they would have joined a long time ago. How do we know OP is credible.
3 - Who gives away 80% of something this big but doesn't deliver the goods. This kind of info would be all or none. Why drag it out, it's more risk to spread it over several conversations than to just dump it out once.
4 - It's written kind of dramatically...agree with Sireen that this is a part of the book for which OP is testing the quality of writing. I do have to say "nice job"
Slow work day so I'll address some issues. My book is not about Gnostic so spelling wasn't important to me. I mentioned the book because he confirmed things I had found while researching for my book. (like LOP!) He is ALWAYS talking in riddles and metaphors. I recently had a text message conversation and asked directly but he answered with quotes from Philosophers and in FRENCH, GERMAN, SPANISH AND LATIN! I'm tired of his games and told him so.
I don't remember the claim of being here that long but could be I meant I've been doing book research since 2009? I'll go back and check but I've been "lurking" here awhile before becoming a member.

I'm still 50/50 on this conversation but it is far more believable than other "my uncle" threads I've read. I agree with some other comments that so many fake stories have been posted over the last couple of years that you look for a fake every time you see a story of this type.

If real, you need to take this guy out for drink and about 4 drinks into it start working him for info. If fake, come clean and take credit for a well played story.

I bet that won't work bc I bet he gets more cryptic when drinking.

**REDEYE**

LoP Guest Wrote:

REDEYE Wrote:
BeelzeBob Wrote:
Troubling Facts to this conversation:

1 - OP is a writer and misspells Gnostic
2 - OP joined in March of 2012...but claims to have been here awhile (2009?). This could be true but seems like they would have joined a long time ago. How do we know OP is credible.
3 - Who gives away 80% of something this big but doesn't deliver the goods. This kind of info would be all or none. Why drag it out, it's more risk to spread it over several conversations than to just dump it out once.
4 - It's written kind of dramatically...agree with Sireen that this is a part of the book for which OP is testing the quality of writing. I do have to say "nice job"
Slow work day so I'll address some issues. My book is not about Gnostic so spelling wasn't important to me. I mentioned the book because he confirmed things I had found while researching for my book. (like LOP!) He is ALWAYS talking in riddles and metaphors. I recently had a text message conversation and asked directly but he answered with quotes from Philosophers and in FRENCH, GERMAN, SPANISH AND LATIN! I'm tired of his games and told him so.
I don't remember the claim of being here that long but could be I meant I've been doing book research since 2009? I'll go back and check but I've been "lurking" here awhile before becoming a member.
I swear we have to be talking about the same person, unless you made him up, in which case you are good at dreaming up realistic characters bc this guy exists.

It could be but let me describe one of his tats he refuses to explain.
It's lit torch like the one they carry in the Olympics. And it's in front of a brick wall. Under it written in an old english typed font is LEVEL 21. He only told me once "This is my get out jail free card" and then laughed. He always laughs so you never know when he's full of shit or serious.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 92188 04-24-2012 10:52 PM

REDEYE Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
REDEYE Wrote:
Slow work day so I'll address some issues. My book is not about Gnostic so spelling wasn't important to me. I mentioned the book because he confirmed things I had found while researching for my book. (like LOP!) He is ALWAYS talking in riddles and metaphors. I recently had a text message conversation and asked directly but he answered with quotes from Philosophers and in FRENCH, GERMAN, SPANISH AND LATIN! I'm tired of his games and told him so.
I don't remember the claim of being here that long but could be I meant I've been doing book research since 2009? I'll go back and check but I've been "lurking" here awhile before becoming a member.
I swear we have to be talking about the same person, unless you made him up, in which case you are good at dreaming up realistic characters bc this guy exists.

It could be but let me describe one of his tats he refuses to explain.
It's lit torch like the one they carry in the Olympics. And it's in front of a brick wall. Under it written in an old english typed font is LEVEL 21. He only told me once "This is my get out jail free card" and then laughed. He always laughs so you never know when he's full of shit or serious.

I can't verify by his tats, never looked closely at them. My husband spent a lot of time with him but I only had the odd pleasure of talking to him a few times. A very interesting kid. Would have been in NC four years ago. Supposedly from a connected family. If never at Ft Bragg then not the same guy.