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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 38238 04-01-2012 05:17 PM

f*ck with them. I do. Post conflicting information with just a smidgeon of truth. Sometimes post the truth. Write in a male voice if you are female. If you are straight allude to being gay. On a data mining thread about guns, say they are icky. Post conflicting shit so the data miners know you are doing it. Lie.

Never use the same identity twice. Use a member name that is on another site but is not you. f*ck up their data. Spout political rhetoric that is not your belief. Go fearlessly into their domain and pretend to be stupid. String them along.[/clip]

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87654 04-01-2012 05:19 PM

I just got banned from GLP about 5 minutes ago.
For posting this video on this thread .(military psyops video)
http://www.don't sue me bro!/forum1/message1824871/pg1

XD yea def something going on here or why would I get banned within minutes of posting this video .

**Bagatell** · **Bagatell** user Variable User ID: 9614 04-01-2012 05:20 PM **Posts: 1,700**

Resistance is NOT Futile Wrote:

Let me start by saying, I've always hoped it's not true. That our beloved bits of the internet that allow us the opportunity to speak freely on off the wall topics, could never be infiltrated or operated by 'government' agencies.

http://giyus.org/

but apparently it's not working cos

Quote:Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws
The government will be able to monitor the calls, emails, texts and website visits of everyone in the UK under new legislation set to be announced soon.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 62850 04-01-2012 05:21 PM

BJ Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Nah it's cool because despite the fact that they think they're holding all the cards you (as in people who are not) have the ability to twist their minds (preferably with truth). Ya see...your words, if you choose them and execute them carefully, have more power than any perceived status of power.

They might haunt your mind for a couple minutes but your words can haunt them for the rest of their lives including but not limited to their dreams.

I have to agree. How much do we post that influences the people who are paid to shill us? We can't know how many minds have been set free with the truth, not saying that all will accept it.

Oh no...you misread what I said. I didn't say anything about "freeing" them. I was talking about mental punishment. These people are basically paid to come on the internet and spout garbage, talk down to people, and track people. They should pay a steep mental price for that, to make their comfortable lives a bit less comfortable.

**Luvapottamus**

ThreshingSword Wrote:

Luvapottamus Wrote:
ThreshingSword Wrote:
Good post. How does this AI work? How can you tell if it's AI or not?

Cannnn't debate worth a damn.

(That's not proof positive, but it work with shills too.)

I would like to see an example of an AI response. Even most shills will debate, but they use the same debate tactics, such as ad hominems for one. You're saying AI won't debate or sucks at debating? Meaning does AI just offer one contradicting reply per person and then stops? I don't understand this whole AI thing.

It's impossible to know for sure if a poster is AI or a paid shill. Or a voluntarily ignorant shill-drone of a human being.

For example lots of far-right Israelis volunteer to post on forums because they feel threatened by the general animosity towards them.

And far right-wing 'Merkans just regurgitate what Rush and Hannity told them.

And Liberals defend Nerobama because they don't want to admit their party is bankrupt.(Abandoned it's core values)

But I don't think an AI would understand sarcasm very well. I see a lot of hit and run drivel posting, not very complex thoughts, and some of those may be AI?

???

**Resistance is NOT Futile**

ThreshingSword Wrote:

Luvapottamus Wrote:
ThreshingSword Wrote:
Good post. How does this AI work? How can you tell if it's AI or not?

Cannnn't debate worth a damn.

(That's not proof positive, but it work with shills too.)

I would like to see an example of an AI response. Even most shills will debate, but they use the same debate tactics, such as ad hominems for one. You're saying AI won't debate or sucks at debating? Meaning does AI just offer one contradicting reply per person and then stops? I don't understand this whole AI thing.

Agreed, pics or it didn't happen! LOL

I've come across some 'pre-programmed' verbage in my days, felt like it was cut and pasted by some shills.

**Old Whatshisname**

WTF OVER? Wrote:

Many, like this site, have paid shills spreading lies.

But chemtrail shills, the supplement lobby shills, the moon-landing-is-a-hoax shills -- even the Annunaki and the Atlantis shills -- have as much righ to push their agenda here as we do.

WTF OVER? Wrote:

But yeah, the shills piss me off. There seems to be at least one shill for every type of controversial subject we have. Politics, religion, climate change, chemtrails, race, etc. etc. Whenever a thread is started on one of these subjects the shills come out in force.

But how do you tell the difference between a shill and someone with a different opinion?

WTF OVER? Wrote:

Doesn't matter how obvious the truth is ...

What's "obvious" to us might not be "obvious" to them.

**Resistance is NOT Futile**

LoP Guest Wrote:

f*ck with them. I do. Post conflicting information with just a smidgeon of truth. Sometimes post the truth. Write in a male voice if you are female. If you are straight allude to being gay. On a data mining thread about guns, say they are icky. Post conflicting shit so the data miners know you are doing it. Lie.

Never use the same identity twice. Use a member name that is on another site but is not you. f*ck up their data. Spout political rhetoric that is not your belief. Go fearlessly into their domain and pretend to be stupid. String them along.[/clip]

**Resistance is NOT Futile**

Old Whatshisname Wrote:

WTF OVER? Wrote:
Many, like this site, have paid shills spreading lies.

But chemtrail shills, the supplement lobby shills, the moon-landing-is-a-hoax shills -- even the Annunaki and the Atlantis shills -- have as much righ to push their agenda here as we do.

WTF OVER? Wrote:
But yeah, the shills piss me off. There seems to be at least one shill for every type of controversial subject we have. Politics, religion, climate change, chemtrails, race, etc. etc. Whenever a thread is started on one of these subjects the shills come out in force.

But how do you tell the difference between a shill and someone with a different opinion?

WTF OVER? Wrote:
Doesn't matter how obvious the truth is ...

What's "obvious" to us might not be "obvious" to them.

Yes every one has the 'right' to post disinfo....that's not the point of this thread.

Srjceahd

**percy** lop guest User ID: 77065 04-01-2012 05:29 PM

Resistance is NOT Futile Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
f*ck with them. I do. Post conflicting information with just a smidgeon of truth. Sometimes post the truth. Write in a male voice if you are female. If you are straight allude to being gay. On a data mining thread about guns, say they are icky. Post conflicting shit so the data miners know you are doing it. Lie.

Never use the same identity twice. Use a member name that is on another site but is not you. f*ck up their data. Spout political rhetoric that is not your belief. Go fearlessly into their domain and pretend to be stupid. String them along.[/clip]

I really dont understand P ?

**Old Whatshisname**

Resistance is NOT Futile Wrote:

Yes every one has the 'right' to post disinfo....that's not the point of this thread.

Well, your first post said, "This could just be a general rant, but I'm looking for serious replies from people who maybe simply just 'feel' something is up." And you talked a lot about "shills".

Well, what exactly do you consider a "shill"? The dictionary says it's

1: to act as a shill
2: to act as a spokesperson or promoter <the eminent Shakespearean producer … is now shilling for a brokerage house — Andy Rooney>

A shill is someone who gets on a soapbox and promotes a product (colloidal silver, Boeing airplanes, a cure for cancer) or an idea (contrails are a plot, the Jews are in charge of everything, we should all pray to Jesus). A debunker is just the opposite; that's someone who disagrees with a concept because it's "bunk", and (hopefully) comes up with some sort of evidence as to why it's "bunk".

You certainly have a point about "chem-trails"; they're a pretty contentious subject. But I've noticed that most of the posts are started by people who want other to believe that persistent contrails are part of a conspiracy; wouldn't you say that those people are "shilling" for the chem-trail conspiracy belief?"

When you look at religion, I see about the same number of people initiating threads against Christianity as I do threads about people propounding it. I guess, by the same logic, both sides are shills, inasmuch as they are plugging one or another conflicting beliefs.

Are you saying that all shills are bad, or just some of them? And if there's a difference, are the bad ones "paid" shills and the good ones "volunteer" shills?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 44359 04-01-2012 05:53 PM

Well you can see the breeder signature... witty pictures and videos. Who has time to find all these witty pics and videos to post? hmmmm.... breeders paid to monitor sites.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87664 04-01-2012 06:32 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Well you can see the breeder signature... witty pictures and videos. Who has time to find all these witty pics and videos to post? hmmmm.... breeders paid to monitor sites.

After 1 million Ron Paul Videos, I tend to believe the conspiracy sites are by the Koch Brothers who run the Government. They pretend to oppose one another but they...and add in religious fundamentalist... that and the Atheists(They have the same hateful G-d...money ie. Ayn Rand) and it is the Mods=SRI/Tavistock Etc... who control the debate... They are all sides in the discussion... slanting public opinion against their enemies... It is like the Jew issue. There will be a report that a Jew was killed by a terrorist... to justify bombing a village... but what they don't say is that it is usually a Jew who opposed the Zionist view... They get two birds with one stone...

But it is not just Jews... It is everyone... They are all sides... They work in a cost/benefit theater where whatever is being said will be use to kill, maim, impoverish, humiliate their enemies... Why do we keep posting though? I see the hateful selfish peeps on LOP and just have to say something... I just can't let them spout their Corporate Whoredom without a response. I can't let the Aryan Brotherhood(most of the posters on LOP) spill their finely tuned sociopath version of racism go unanswered. They all call me a paid shill but I think they are the new anonymous KKK, without the sheets. I guess there they, the sociopaths, without a conscience are
advocating for their selfish species and I am advocating for those who are selfless.

It disgusts me to see the (conservative) religious shilling against the poor, minorities, women and people with disabilities the most. Those heartless bastards just get on my nerves... And so I respond or as they say shill for the liberals... but then they accuse me of being for their stupid wars that the Koch Brothers and their conservative ilk push non-stop on MSM. LOP, AT S and the Other Site... They are all divide and conquer.. but it works... with millions upon millions of views and thousands of posts a day... I don't have an answer but they do have me hooked.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87469 04-01-2012 07:22 PM

Tracking of sites visited on the internet is done for the ruling elite. The ruling elite bulletin-board and critique-type websites that post bits of truth and volumes of critiques are especially used in tracking people. "Gurus" who serve the ruling elite often have little spiritual understanding, but pretend to educate others and wear a façade of altruism. Some of these appear openly and notoriously, whilst others retain a form of anonymity.
http://www.xeeatwelve.net/articles/separation.html

**Icarus10** lop guest User ID: 77065 04-01-2012 07:37 PM

I went to school with the Koch's., be careful. They are a Nice family! They have nothing to do with this internet conspiracy bs. Go find your way in the other direction!

Other word.

Get lost!