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**evilolive** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 11:12 AM by evilolive.)

It's just that I see so many symbolism with dual meanings, good and bad. Symbols that look rather plain and simple that nearly anyone can do considered evil.

ie. the five pointed Star. Anyone who has this "cute" shape on their product or tattooed on their body is taught to be "evilly branded", and to some other culture it means something friendly. And what if we just think the shape looks cool?

Seriously, symbols I thought where innocent considered to have evil connotations are just making me think that these things are entities we shouldn't care about using if we just like them? Someone points out some celebrity has a Infinity tattooed to them and all of a sudden that person is officially considered one step more part of Illuminati property. And I thought it was a rather meaningful symbol of mathematics that someone might just relate to? What if I wanted a pet snake, or an owl? Am I now in part a devil worshiper or to be in league with Bohemian Grove? Why should we care? Why do we have to physically fear these "symbols"?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111 09-13-2012 11:18 AM

Symbols speak to the subconcious...some don't have a fear of symbols and use them. Some use/used them nefariously. For the most part...symbols have no need for real people with no hidden agendas...but for now, it is an identifier of many wrong doers. Does that mean every time some little kid throws up the hook em horn sign or 666 ok sign or mercury finger/jupiter finger hand sign they are evil? Not necessarily. They are walking in error and usually just a percolating effect. Monkey see, monkey do. Anyway there is an action and intent behind the action. Let us find the intent to better understand the symbol being used daily and repeatedly in our faces, behind our consciousness and with our sub-conscious.

**evo**

Symbology is one on the loonier aspects of the conspiracy fringe. I tend to take no notice, sure symbols have meaning, but those meanings are totally invented by humanity, they have no power in and of themselves.

**evilolive** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 11:39 AM by evilolive.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

Symbols speak to the subconcious...some don't have a fear of symbols and use them. Some use/used them nefariously. For the most part...symbols have no need for real people with no hidden agendas...but for now, it is an identifier of many wrong doers. Does that mean every time some little kid throws up the hook em horn sign or 666 ok sign or mercury finger/jupiter finger hand sign they are evil? Not necessarily. They are walking in error and usually just a percolating effect. Monkey see, monkey do. Anyway there is an action and intent behind the action. Let us find the intent to better understand the symbol being used daily and repeatedly in our faces, behind our consciousness and with our sub-conscious.

Speaks to the subconscious?.. Is this a physical psychological thing or something metaphorical?..
I can see how the "creators" of the symbols, if they really deserve that title, use it to identify towards eachother, like yeah, if someone walked down town wearing a crucifix it says they're Christian. But does it harm anyone else crossing over two sticks that are different lengths to eachother? How does it speak to the subconscious though, I am happy to believe something as long as it's proven through to me and so far it's been nothing... like a hand signal is a hand signal. Someone in history decided the Middle finger - a piece of human anatomy - was rude. As with all other symbolism as well! It shouldn't have more weight than that? Why does it have that weight? I just can't see why we're not overblowing things with it?

Look! Harry Potter has a pet owl!! And it's white too, even worse, of course Hollywood made it intentional, the Illuminati wrote that! Not like J.K Rowling was a poor woman getting sucked up the system who just got lucky that some editor would publish her idea that already had the owl and a bunch of other shizz in the first place!

**Devout Agnostic**

evo Wrote:

Symbology is one on the loonier aspects of the conspiracy fringe. I tend to take no notice, sure symbols have meaning, but those meanings are totally invented by humanity, they have no power in and of themselves.

...unless they take advantage of the natural geometries programmed into the human brain, like face and figure recognition, or the symmetry of dangerous animals. Then they do, in fact, have instrinsic power.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111 09-13-2012 12:01 PM

http://baguajing.livejournal.com/22835.html

You mention the middle finger, I am aware of other cultures. Did you ever think that the history we know is indeed false and full of holes and discrepancies? Well for instance, Hellen Keller was a theosophist and created the I love you sign knowing what it meant before she instituted it in modern thinking. Now we have all these obfusications of misidentified symbols where people actually think it means one thing when really it means another. Like what seems like earlier myths to modern perspective could actually be more smokescreens to cover up the true identifier of our salvation here on earth. Yes, the enemy was told in the garden about someone coming and since then has kings kill the first born in anticipation of his coming and sprout up similar sounding mythos that happen to appear first in our linear bounds of thought. Well then there is the time travelling which didn't come into the equation either. Face it, the universe is as simple or complex as we want it to be.

http://www.whale.to/b/finger.html

**Devout Agnostic** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 12:07 PM by Devout Agnostic.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

http://baguajing.livejournal.com/22835.html

You mention the middle finger, I am aware of other cultures. Did you ever think that the history we know is indeed false and full of holes and discrepancies? Well for instance, Hellen Keller was a theosophist and created the I love you sign knowing what it meant before she instituted it in modern thinking. Now we have all these obfusications of misidentified symbols where people actually think it means one thing when really it means another. Like what seems like earlier myths to modern perspective could actually be more smokescreens to cover up the true identifier of our salvation here on earth. Yes, the enemy was told in the garden about someone coming and since then has kings kill the first born in anticipation of his coming and sprout up similar sounding mythos that happen to appear first in our linear bounds of thought. Well then there is the time travelling which didn't come into the equation either. Face it, the universe is as simple or complex as we want it to be.

http://www.whale.to/b/finger.html

I almost went to a similar (tho far more secular) place, but i wanted to keep it real for the skeptical OP. This whole conversation requires a great deal of deprogramming for materialists, to which they, like all zealots, are tremendously resistant to.

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**evilolive** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 12:26 PM by evilolive.)

evo Wrote:

Symbology is one on the loonier aspects of the conspiracy fringe. I tend to take no notice, sure symbols have meaning, but those meanings are totally invented by humanity, they have no power in and of themselves.

Yep, exactly as I see it. It to me sounds invented by humanity, not for it. Like associating the fingers into planets or something, pointer finger is Jupiter etc etc.. How about I say that my second toe is the Pacific Ocean and my third is the Atlantic? What about some random other stars in the constellation in Sagittarius or something? Why are humans so egocentric? The people who come up with this are mostly the people who don't believe we're made of leftover stardust in the first place!

Just kinda hard to study conspiracy when everybody links everything back to astrology and magic and all stuff that is to do with things nobody could really explain. Nearly everyone does it here. And this is from someone who seriously wishes magic was real. Life would be damn cooler that way. Sure magic and stuff is part of what people can conspire, but it's like many things - hardly anything documented worth believing.

**evilolive**

Devout Agnostic Wrote:

evo Wrote:
Symbology is one on the loonier aspects of the conspiracy fringe. I tend to take no notice, sure symbols have meaning, but those meanings are totally invented by humanity, they have no power in and of themselves.

...unless they take advantage of the natural geometries programmed into the human brain, like face and figure recognition, or the symmetry of dangerous animals. Then they do, in fact, have instrinsic power.

You mean like Conditioning? It's a new topic to me, I've been really getting into it. That's as close to any power it will ever have in human minds.. but yet to ever see it actually do anything besides strike a bell in someones mind.

But I'd like to read more into the symmetry of dangerous animals! Where did you get that from? Sounds a good read..

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91459 09-13-2012 12:32 PM

It's funny. As technologically advanced as we are and with as many advances in sciences and mathematics, the consciousness of many, many people it seems haven't advanced far beyond that of the average medieval demon-haunted peasants. Beliefs that symbols, shapes, sigils, and other simple line drawings on a piece of paper or carved into a wall have tangible "power" in the real world are a prime exampls of that.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111 09-13-2012 12:33 PM

evilolive Wrote:

evo Wrote:
Symbology is one on the loonier aspects of the conspiracy fringe. I tend to take no notice, sure symbols have meaning, but those meanings are totally invented by humanity, they have no power in and of themselves.

Yep, exactly as I see it. It to me sounds invented by humanity, not for it. Like associating the fingers into planets or something, pointer finger is Jupiter etc etc.. How about I say that my second toe is the Pacific Ocean and my third is the Atlantic? What about some random other stars in the constellation in Sagittarius or something? Why are humans so egocentric? The people who come up with this are mostly the people who don't believe we're made of leftover stardust in the first place!

Just kinda hard to study conspiracy when everybody links everything back to astrology and magic and all stuff that is to do with things nobody could really explain. Nearly everyone does it here. And this is from someone who seriously wishes magic was real. Life would be damn cooler that way. Sure magic and stuff is part of what people can conspire, but it's like many things - hardly anything documented worth believing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiEQn9Dygic

Symbols and sound, wow. Also that's not all OP, if you act right now and say your second toe now represents the pacific and your third is pacific, we have a new conversation that most people would not get, had you not told me beforehand, in secret post...behind closed doors. Plus get your free gift if you act now...my pinkie toe is the artic. So only NOW you know the secret symbols set forth by two kingpins and their toe analogy. Not only do the peons that didn't see this thread look at us like we're crazy, they are not in the know. (((mwauahhhh)))
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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111 09-13-2012 12:34 PM

http://www.interferencetheory.com/Articl...1a0-3.html

**Devout Agnostic** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 01:17 PM by Devout Agnostic.)

evilolive Wrote:

Devout Agnostic Wrote:
...unless they take advantage of the natural geometries programmed into the human brain, like face and figure recognition, or the symmetry of dangerous animals. Then they do, in fact, have instrinsic power.

You mean like Conditioning? It's a new topic to me, I've been really getting into it. That's as close to any power it will ever have in human minds.. but yet to ever see it actually do anything besides strike a bell in someones mind.

But I'd like to read more into the symmetry of dangerous animals! Where did you get that from? Sounds a good read..

No, the opposite. Unconditioned. The mammalian visual cortex comes geometrically preprogrammed in order to assess threats and potential rewards. The responses associated with these programs can be induced symbolically. If there are books on this subject, i am not familiar with them. I suspect there are, but they are called grimoires, and they are written in code, so being uninitiated I can't be sure.

You shouldn't need books for this knowledge anyway, it was a free download upon entry. Just a curious nature and an open, playful mind.

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-A-theory-of-symbols

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 112086 09-13-2012 02:24 PM

evilolive Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Symbols speak to the subconcious...some don't have a fear of symbols and use them. Some use/used them nefariously. For the most part...symbols have no need for real people with no hidden agendas...but for now, it is an identifier of many wrong doers. Does that mean every time some little kid throws up the hook em horn sign or 666 ok sign or mercury finger/jupiter finger hand sign they are evil? Not necessarily. They are walking in error and usually just a percolating effect. Monkey see, monkey do. Anyway there is an action and intent behind the action. Let us find the intent to better understand the symbol being used daily and repeatedly in our faces, behind our consciousness and with our sub-conscious.

Speaks to the subconscious?.. Is this a physical psychological thing or something metaphorical?..
I can see how the "creators" of the symbols, if they really deserve that title, use it to identify towards eachother, like yeah, if someone walked down town wearing a crucifix it says they're Christian. But does it harm anyone else crossing over two sticks that are different lengths to eachother? How does it speak to the subconscious though, I am happy to believe something as long as it's proven through to me and so far it's been nothing... like a hand signal is a hand signal. Someone in history decided the Middle finger - a piece of human anatomy - was rude. As with all other symbolism as well! It shouldn't have more weight than that? Why does it have that weight? I just can't see why we're not overblowing things with it?

Look! Harry Potter has a pet owl!! And it's white too, even worse, of course Hollywood made it intentional, the Illuminati wrote that! Not like J.K Rowling was a poor woman getting sucked up the system who just got lucky that some editor would publish her idea that already had the owl and a bunch of other shizz in the first place!

want a eye opener then, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evw4Bykap...re=related http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PlatonicSolid.html http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...003031they probably won`t get used but, hey i dropped it in anway.for the 3 of you.:hiding3:notice anything within the sonators what about the designed numbers in relation to the symbol they make and the sound interference signals, HMMM,,,,...let me see a RELATIONSHIP. with in spinning subsets.some would say oscillations.