evilolive  Wrote:

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Symbols speak to the subconcious...some don't have a fear of symbols and use them. Some use/used them nefariously. For the most part...symbols have no need for real people with no hidden agendas...but for now, it is an identifier of many wrong doers. Does that mean every time some little kid throws up the hook em horn sign or 666 ok sign or mercury finger/jupiter finger hand sign they are evil? Not necessarily. They are walking in error and usually just a percolating effect. Monkey see, monkey do. Anyway there is an action and intent behind the action. Let us find the intent to better understand the symbol being used daily and repeatedly in our faces, behind our consciousness and with our sub-conscious.

Speaks to the subconscious?.. Is this a physical psychological thing or something metaphorical?..
I can see how the "creators" of the symbols, if they really deserve that title, use it to identify towards eachother, like yeah, if someone walked down town wearing a crucifix it says they're Christian. But does it harm anyone else crossing over two sticks that are different lengths to eachother? How does it speak to the subconscious though, I am happy to believe something as long as it's proven through to me and so far it's been nothing... like a hand signal is a hand signal. Someone in history decided the Middle finger - a piece of human anatomy - was rude. As with all other symbolism as well! It shouldn't have more weight than that? Why does it have that weight? I just can't see why we're not overblowing things with it?

Look! Harry Potter has a pet owl!! And it's white too, even worse, of course Hollywood made it intentional, the Illuminati wrote that! Not like J.K Rowling was a poor woman getting sucked up the system who just got lucky that some editor would publish her idea that already had the owl and a bunch of other shizz in the first place!

want a eye opener then, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evw4Bykap...re=related http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PlatonicSolid.html http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...003031they probably won`t get used but, hey i dropped it in anway.for the 3 of you.:hiding3:notice anything within the sonators what about the designed numbers in relation to the symbol they make and the sound interference signals, HMMM,,,,...let me see a RELATIONSHIP. with in spinning subsets.some would say oscillations.

http://baguajing.livejournal.com/22835.html

You mention the middle finger, I am aware of other cultures. Did you ever think that the history we know is indeed false and full of holes and discrepancies? Well for instance, Hellen Keller was a theosophist and created the I love you sign knowing what it meant before she instituted it in modern thinking. Now we have all these obfusications of misidentified symbols where people actually think it means one thing when really it means another. Like what seems like earlier myths to modern perspective could actually be more smokescreens to cover up the true identifier of our salvation here on earth. Yes, the enemy was told in the garden about someone coming and since then has kings kill the first born in anticipation of his coming and sprout up similar sounding mythos that happen to appear first in our linear bounds of thought. Well then there is the time travelling which didn't come into the equation either. Face it, the universe is as simple or complex as we want it to be.

http://www.whale.to/b/finger.html

evilolive  Wrote:

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Symbology is one on the loonier aspects of the conspiracy fringe. I tend to take no notice, sure symbols have meaning, but those meanings are totally invented by humanity, they have no power in and of themselves.

Yep, exactly as I see it. It to me sounds invented by humanity, not for it. Like associating the fingers into planets or something, pointer finger is Jupiter etc etc.. How about I say that my second toe is the Pacific Ocean and my third is the Atlantic? What about some random other stars in the constellation in Sagittarius or something? Why are humans so egocentric? The people who come up with this are mostly the people who don't believe we're made of leftover stardust in the first place!

Just kinda hard to study conspiracy when everybody links everything back to astrology and magic and all stuff that is to do with things nobody could really explain. Nearly everyone does it here. And this is from someone who seriously wishes magic was real. Life would be damn cooler that way. Sure magic and stuff is part of what people can conspire, but it's like many things - hardly anything documented worth believing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiEQn9Dygic

Symbols and sound, wow. Also that's not all OP, if you act right now and say your second toe now represents the pacific and your third is pacific, we have a new conversation that most people would not get, had you not told me beforehand, in secret post...behind closed doors. Plus get your free gift if you act now...my pinkie toe is the artic. So only NOW you know the secret symbols set forth by two kingpins and their toe analogy. Not only do the peons that didn't see this thread look at us like we're crazy, they are not in the know. (((mwauahhhh)))

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evilolive  Wrote:

Speaks to the subconscious?.. Is this a physical psychological thing or something metaphorical?..
I can see how the "creators" of the symbols, if they really deserve that title, use it to identify towards eachother, like yeah, if someone walked down town wearing a crucifix it says they're Christian. But does it harm anyone else crossing over two sticks that are different lengths to eachother? How does it speak to the subconscious though, I am happy to believe something as long as it's proven through to me and so far it's been nothing... like a hand signal is a hand signal. Someone in history decided the Middle finger - a piece of human anatomy - was rude. As with all other symbolism as well! It shouldn't have more weight than that? Why does it have that weight? I just can't see why we're not overblowing things with it?

Look! Harry Potter has a pet owl!! And it's white too, even worse, of course Hollywood made it intentional, the Illuminati wrote that! Not like J.K Rowling was a poor woman getting sucked up the system who just got lucky that some editor would publish her idea that already had the owl and a bunch of other shizz in the first place!

want a eye opener then, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evw4Bykap...re=related http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PlatonicSolid.html http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...003031they probably won`t get used but, hey i dropped it in anway.for the 3 of you.:hiding3:notice anything within the sonators what about the designed numbers in relation to the symbol they make and the sound interference signals, HMMM,,,,...let me see a RELATIONSHIP. with in spinning subsets.some would say oscillations.

if you have trouble catching the spin pause the sonations and see how each frequency makes the shape. haarp doing this in a awesome scale range ,sounds across the world recently. spirals etc.....

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want a eye opener then, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evw4Bykap...re=related http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PlatonicSolid.html http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...003031they probably won`t get used but, hey i dropped it in anway.for the 3 of you.:hiding3:notice anything within the sonators what about the designed numbers in relation to the symbol they make and the sound interference signals, HMMM,,,,...let me see a RELATIONSHIP. with in spinning subsets.some would say oscillations.

if you have trouble catching the spin pause the sonations and see how each frequency makes the shape. haarp doing this in a awesome scale range ,sounds across the world recently. spirals etc.....

so God generate operate dissolve the frequencies

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Symbols speak to the subconcious...some don't have a fear of symbols and use them. Some use/used them nefariously. For the most part...symbols have no need for real people with no hidden agendas...but for now, it is an identifier of many wrong doers. Does that mean every time some little kid throws up the hook em horn sign or 666 ok sign or mercury finger/jupiter finger hand sign they are evil? Not necessarily. They are walking in error and usually just a percolating effect. Monkey see, monkey do. Anyway there is an action and intent behind the action. Let us find the intent to better understand the symbol being used daily and repeatedly in our faces, behind our consciousness and with our sub-conscious.

Speaks to the subconscious?.. Is this a physical psychological thing or something metaphorical?..

evilolive  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Symbols speak to the subconcious...some don't have a fear of symbols and use them. Some use/used them nefariously. For the most part...symbols have no need for real people with no hidden agendas...but for now, it is an identifier of many wrong doers. Does that mean every time some little kid throws up the hook em horn sign or 666 ok sign or mercury finger/jupiter finger hand sign they are evil? Not necessarily. They are walking in error and usually just a percolating effect. Monkey see, monkey do. Anyway there is an action and intent behind the action. Let us find the intent to better understand the symbol being used daily and repeatedly in our faces, behind our consciousness and with our sub-conscious.

Speaks to the subconscious?.. Is this a physical psychological thing or something metaphorical?..

Look up Jungian archetypes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes

This is a good place to start as well: Joseph Campbell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth

The way I'd answer your question is both: there are near-universal psychological affects that certain color combinations and designs produce in a persons mind (optical illusions are a more obvious example. Look at a Brigit Riley painting and see if it doesn't make you a little dizzy for example).
Almost universally, monkeys and humans react to the sight of dismembered body parts with terror, and nearly all mammals fear snakes.
Nearly every culture reveres large birds they see in the sky and large animals that denote power.

However, symbols are still dependent on the meaning the reader attaches to them as well. Many 'occult' symbols were ways of certain groups communicating to members without 'the masses' or maybe those in authority catching on. The Jesus fish is an example there.

Their 'evil' meaning sometimes came from the powers that be wanting to assert their own authority and therefore vilifying anything that they perceived as a threat. If they could frighten the peasants with the very sight of some symbol, so much the better.

In some forms of witchcraft symbols our Resident Wizards might be in a better position to answer than I, but as far as I can gather, 'magical' symbols that are used are less important than the will of the person trying to work their magic. There isn't necessarily intrinsic meaning.

Personally I'd love to know the etymology of the term 'hex' as in 'curse', which from what I could find has its roots in the old German word 'hexen' and yet hex(a) is also the root word for 'six', as in 'six-sided' as in the good ole' hexagram.

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evilolive  Wrote:

Speaks to the subconscious?.. Is this a physical psychological thing or something metaphorical?..

Look up Jungian archetypes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes

This is a good place to start as well: Joseph Campbell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth

The way I'd answer your question is both: there are near-universal psychological affects that certain color combinations and designs produce in a persons mind (optical illusions are a more obvious example. Look at a Brigit Riley painting and see if it doesn't make you a little dizzy for example).
Almost universally, monkeys and humans react to the sight of dismembered body parts with terror, and nearly all mammals fear snakes.
Nearly every culture reveres large birds they see in the sky and large animals that denote power.

However, symbols are still dependent on the meaning the reader attaches to them as well. Many 'occult' symbols were ways of certain groups communicating to members without 'the masses' or maybe those in authority catching on. The Jesus fish is an example there.

Their 'evil' meaning sometimes came from the powers that be wanting to assert their own authority and therefore vilifying anything that they perceived as a threat. If they could frighten the peasants with the very sight of some symbol, so much the better.

In some forms of witchcraft symbols our Resident Wizards might be in a better position to answer than I, but as far as I can gather, 'magical' symbols that are used are less important than the will of the person trying to work their magic. There isn't necessarily intrinsic meaning.

Personally I'd love to know the etymology of the term 'hex' as in 'curse', which from what I could find has its roots in the old German word 'hexen' and yet hex(a) is also the root word for 'six', as in 'six-sided' as in the good ole' hexagram.

six sides is the cube hence hex, the curtain is the face/sides you see which stops you from seeing out of the box.curse.