Post: #31

oh no,

This is about eliminating Christians in the middle east,

when the USA invades: Iraq / Afghanistan

or has the CIA stage a coup: Egypt/ Libya

christians are terrorized and murdered until they are wiped out of the country.

Thats what this is all about.

THEY want to murder all the christians in Syria now.

THEY would put Al Qudea in Syria as the new government in about 5 minutes, whos first law would be, ok every body lets kill all the christians.


I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. When I saw her, I was greatly astonished.

^ Yea, HER;

thats what this is all about.






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only if you are a fan of false flag operations


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should i be sad?

Or fully engaged in the war against the Shia, being carried out by Saudi lap-dogs. Thats what the so-called Arab spring is really about. A global war between the Sunni and Shia, and were caught right in the middle of it, by design.

Post: #32

fail..


its about oil...

those so called rebels/pirates are blackwater employees with beards

Post: #33

LoP Guest  Wrote:

oh no,

This is about eliminating Christians in the middle east,

when the USA invades: Iraq / Afghanistan

or has the CIA stage a coup: Egypt/ Libya

christians are terrorized and murdered until they are wiped out of the country.

Thats what this is all about.

THEY want to murder all the christians in Syria now.

THEY would put Al Qudea in Syria as the new government in about 5 minutes, whos first law would be, ok every body lets kill all the christians.


I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. When I saw her, I was greatly astonished.

^ Yea, HER;

thats what this is all about.






LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

only if you are a fan of false flag operations

Or fully engaged in the war against the Shia, being carried out by Saudi lap-dogs. Thats what the so-called Arab spring is really about. A global war between the Sunni and Shia, and were caught right in the middle of it, by design.

To the Sunni, the Shia and the Christians are exactly the same.

Post: #34

Update:

'What has not gotten much attention in the reporting of Colvin and Ochnik’s tragic deaths is that the two alongside other journalists had entered Syria illegally under the ‘protection’ of the Free Syria Army.
Sources tell Centintel that the building that Colvin and Ochnik were in were kept in utter secrecy. Furthermore our sources say the building was struck with a ‘direct hit’ and ‘totally gutted, as if it had been struck with an advanced weapons system.’ Whether the Syrian Armed Forces have weaponry that is capable of destroying a building in this manner is unknown. Our source goes on to report that Marie Colvin and Remi Ochnik were using anti-tracking and anti-jamming devices.'

http://centintel.com/u-s-nato-military-i...ing-syria/

Post: #35

Were Marie Colvin and journalists deliberately targeted by Syria's army?

What is the evidence that they were deliberately fired on?

Most of the evidence of a deliberate attack comes from French journalist Jean-Pierre Perrin, who was also in the Homs suburb of Bab Amr. He described in Liberation how the house being used as a press centre had been "evacuated" after being targeted before. According to Perrin, evidence of this was also visible in the fact that its satellite antenna had been hit many times by snipers. He also described how the journalists in the city were warned several days before the fatal incident that they would be killed if they were caught, as well as suspicions that their communications may have been intercepted and their reports read by the regime.

In a separate interview, Perrin also told the Telegraph: "A few days ago we were advised to leave the city urgently and we were told: 'If they [the Syrian army] find you, they will kill you'. I then left the city with [Colvin] but she wanted to go back when she saw that the major offensive had not yet taken place." He added his view that the Syrians were "fully aware" that the press centre was broadcasting direct evidence of crimes against humanity, including the murdering of women and children.

Is there any other evidence that the regime is targeting those involved in telling the story in Homs?

As well as Colvin and Remi, a prominent citizen journalist, Rami al-Sayyed, was also killed the day before. In addition, a group of activists trained by the organisation Avaaz, including several medical volunteers attempting to reach the press centre and two other citizen journalists, were found executed with their hands tied near Bab Amr after trying to reach the injured and dead reporters.

CNN staff, who had used the same media centre in an earlier visit to Homs, have indicated that they believe the Syrian military targeted their dishes on the roof with artillery fire.

The Committee to Protect Journalists has said the Assad regime appears to have a policy of intimidation against journalists to enforce a news blackout, a policy it believes has become more violent. It claims: "By controlling local news reports and expelling or denying entry to dozens of foreign journalists, the Syrian government has sought to impose a blackout on independent news coverage since the country's uprising began almost a year ago, CPJ research shows.

Is there any physical evidence of a direct attack?

The journalists were in an area that was being subjected to indiscriminate fire and rocket fire, which can be extremely inaccurate. Activists, however, claim that since landlines into the city were cut, Syrian forces have been firing deliberately on locations where there was a mobile or satellite signal – a claim it is not possible to verify.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb...eted-syria

Post: #36

The Syrian Human Rights Network (SHRN) expressed surprise over some countries' attempts to turn public opinion against Syria using reports on the injuring of journalists.

In a statement issued on Wednesday, the SHRN said that according to international law, when individuals enter a country illegally then this country's authorities are not responsible for their safety and protection, but rather should arrest them and refer them to the judicial system to interrogate them over their illegal entry.

The SHRN that that the full responsibility is upon the journalists' governments and their organizations which intentionally sent them in secret as part of their policies of instigation, facilitating their entry into Syria without prior permits:

http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2012/02/22/402147.htm

i agree with Sabbagh on this point. The media group that sent them in ILLEGALLY should be held accountable. It's a WAR zone. If the media outlets want to send their reporters into harms way, then they need to take responsibility for the consequences.

'Foreign and Expatriates Ministry on Thursday stressed the necessity for foreign journalists to respect the laws regulating journalistic work in Syria and avoid breaching laws and entering the Syrian territories illegally to access turbulent and unsafe places.':

http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2012/02/24/402195.htm

"On the human level, we offer condolences to the media institutions and the families of the journalists who died on the Syrian territories," said a Foreign Ministry spokesman.

i'm sorry Rec, but reporters die in combat situations, looking for sensationalism and exclusivity in this field requires a high risk, high reward. They knew the risks (they were not new to this) and they paid the ultimate price for their dedication to their work.

They are dead. It does not follow that more should die in retribution.

Post: #37

These journalists worked on the party of the armed insurgents of terrorists... As a matter of fact they waged information war against the official government of the sovereign state... On it it is possible to consider them as enemies in the war... They have deserved death.

Post: #38

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These journalists worked on the party of the armed insurgents of terrorists... As a matter of fact they waged information war against the official government of the sovereign state... On it it is possible to consider them as enemies in the war... They have deserved death.

Defecting soldiers are not considered terrorists under any internatioal standards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNilEOWz...e=youtu.be

Special forces brigade in its entirety defects in Idleb today 20 Feb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...9TYGiIiV4#

Lt Colonel Mohamed Samer Ramadan & large group of soldiers defect today & join FSA in Talkalakh cit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HKle5N0v...e=youtu.be

Defection of Colonel Mohamed Ali Al-Khatib
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JKRn8lQI...ure=colike

Post: #39

More than 2500 soldiers defect & take oath to join Free Syria Army 16 Feb 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMxEhVjk4...re=related

Post: #40

•REC  Wrote:

More than 2500 soldiers defect & take oath to join Free Syria Army 16 Feb 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMxEhVjk4...re=related

Syria has a standing army of 220 000 soldiers with 280 000 in reserve. i seriously don't think that 1% of ones military 'deserting' their posts is a great problem to contain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Arme...yrian_Army

Nothing like the 21 000 US deserters in WW2:

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/WW2_U...ld_war_two

"One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter"

Post: #41

L0n9pi9  Wrote:

•REC  Wrote:

More than 2500 soldiers defect & take oath to join Free Syria Army 16 Feb 2012.

Syria has a standing army of 220 000 soldiers with 280 000 in reserve. i seriously don't think that 1% of ones military 'deserting' their posts is a great problem to contain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Arme...yrian_Army

Nothing like the 21 000 US deserters in WW2:

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/WW2_U...ld_war_two

"One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter"

That's fine. What I'm objecting to is the description “terrorist” as portrayed in Syrian and Russian media.

Defecting soldiers are not considered terrorists.

The idea that Syrian military have defected on mass in protest of operations against armed foreign insurgents is ridiculous.

Post: #42

Deserters-it soldiers which love dollars more than the native land. It is possible to consider as their traitors....
During the Second World War of cowards and traitors which escaped from a battlefield the soldiers shot.... Because the traitor will be taken prisoner and will tell to the opponent the information which enemies can use.

Post: #43

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Deserters-it soldiers which love dollars more than the native land. It is possible to consider as their traitors....
During the Second World War of cowards and traitors which escaped from a battlefield the soldiers shot.... Because the traitor will be taken prisoner and will tell to the opponent the information which enemies can use.

Deserters? Cowards?

Cowards who are taking on the heavily armed Syrian Army with light weaponary.

Post: #44

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Deserters-it soldiers which love dollars more than the native land. It is possible to consider as their traitors....
During the Second World War of cowards and traitors which escaped from a battlefield the soldiers shot.... Because the traitor will be taken prisoner and will tell to the opponent the information which enemies can use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBCuq2bIdIs

That will do army of the USA.... If Protestants Occupy Wall Street take the weapon in hands? Will start to demand dissolution of parliament, resignation of the president, to plunder and kill. Thus Russia and their China will finance, deliver the weapon and to give political support to these fighters for freedom against tyranny of the government of the USA?

Post: #45

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Deserters-it soldiers which love dollars more than the native land. It is possible to consider as their traitors....
During the Second World War of cowards and traitors which escaped from a battlefield the soldiers shot.... Because the traitor will be taken prisoner and will tell to the opponent the information which enemies can use.

i think we got a live one.

Yes, and no.

First, let us consider the times in which we stay. Would you say we are more civilised now than, say, 70 years ago? Would you condone a soldier shooting down a man in cold blood, in your presence, for desertion? If the answer is yes, then the enemy have won. If your answer is no, then you are a human.

Secondly, the word 'treason' comes from the word 'traitor'. It in turn is derived from the word 'traditor'.

trad·i·tor   [trad-i-ter]
noun, plural trad·i·to·res  [trad-i-tawr-eez, -tohr-]
an early Christian who betrayed other Christians at the time of the Roman persecutions.

It's meaning has nothing to do with war. Therefore, the word 'deserter' is a more apt word for that which you seek to define.

The world needs to labour together to overcome our little problems, not divide.